Does Aperture Work?

[felt.]

Affinity Photo and Dx0 OpticsPro working great over here. Good stuff.

 

[lk400]

I tried all the alternate programs after the announcement and I hated them all. I tried Lightroom a couple months later again and still, I just went back to Aperture. Photos definitely was not going to be good enough. But last week, I just knew it was time. I found a really good guide to switch. I took my time...it took a full day to clean everything up and get it ready and then another day to import it all to Lightroom. I think the process is part of why I hated everything and kept putting it off. It all felt daunting and complicated to move.

Now I've been playing but with LR for a few days trying to work out my flow and it's not as bad as I thought it would be. I figured out all my basic tasks and settled on a way to organize everything. I export jpgs for Photos and started fresh there. I can actually use iCloud Photo Library now and it's not all messed up. Ha!

Basically you're going to have to do it in the near future so might as well get it over with. I really did love Aperture though. The move is tedious but in the end I don't have to worry about Aperture disappearing from the store or computers crashing, etc.

My two main concerns are that I shoot raw+jpg, and have done for some time. The raw+jpg stacks in aperture were great. I think that LR doesn't do this. Did you have this issue?

Also how does LR deal with non-destructive edits? Sometimes I'll go back over an old photo and realise I no longer like how unprocessed it - eg maybe my tastes or workflow has changed over time. I think I will lose this in LR.

 

[0970373]

My two main concerns are that I shoot raw+jpg, and have done for some time. The raw+jpg stacks in aperture were great. I think that LR doesn't do this. Did you have this issue?

Also how does LR deal with non-destructive edits? Sometimes I'll go back over an old photo and realise I no longer like how unprocessed it - eg maybe my tastes or workflow has changed over time. I think I will lose this in LR.

Yes, LR can stack RAW+jpg just fine. I shoot this way as well and LR prioritizes the RAW file over the jpg but they can definitely be stacked or treated as separate files if you like on import. I have no issues here so far.

I'm sure that there are websites you can research on how LR handles nondestructive edits that can explain it better than I can but I can tell you that it does not alter your original image and you can go back to that original photo easily. I doubt so many pro photos would be using it if it didn't do both of these things.

Definitely do some research (Google) on what you are afraid it might not do. it does everything I need it to and handles file heiarchy much better than Aperture to be honest. Keywording is also really good in LR. You may find you like one of the other alternatives. My point is, Aperture is dead, you'll have to move away from it at some point. You'll miss out on other features from other software by trying to cling to software that will never be updated again.

I say that not to be mean but as someone who FINALLY moved just a few weeks ago and went to herself, "why the hell did you wait so long? That wasn't so bad." In the end, my library is much more organized and in better shape than it was before.

 

[oeyvind]

This is caused by the Nvidia Web driver, Apple's system driver does not have this problem.

Unfortunately, after upgrade from Yosemite, it broke Aperture for me. All I am getting are "Yellow Color Pictures" for every photo. The previews seems ok. Deleting preferences did nothing.

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[lk400]

Yes, LR can stack RAW+jpg just fine. I shoot this way as well and LR prioritizes the RAW file over the jpg but they can definitely be stacked or treated as separate files if you like on import. I have no issues here so far.

I'm sure that there are websites you can research on how LR handles nondestructive edits that can explain it better than I can but I can tell you that it does not alter your original image and you can go back to that original photo easily. I doubt so many pro photos would be using it if it didn't do both of these things.

Definitely do some research (Google) on what you are afraid it might not do. it does everything I need it to and handles file heiarchy much better than Aperture to be honest. Keywording is also really good in LR. You may find you like one of the other alternatives. My point is, Aperture is dead, you'll have to move away from it at some point. You'll miss out on other features from other software by trying to cling to software that will never be updated again.

I say that not to be mean but as someone who FINALLY moved just a few weeks ago and went to herself, "why the hell did you wait so long? That wasn't so bad." In the end, my library is much more organized and in better shape than it was before.

Thank you very much for your informative post - it definitely makes a good case for updating, and I feel more confident that I will do it soon.

I should have been more specific with my point on nondestructive edits, I was mostly concerned with my photos imported from Aperture. The adjustments are obviously not going to be compatible, so I think I will be stuck with whatever I applied until the day I change over. Its not the end of the world, but something to consider.

 

[0970373]

Thank you very much for your informative post - it definitely makes a good case for updating, and I feel more confident that I will do it soon.

I should have been more specific with my point on nondestructive edits, I was mostly concerned with my photos imported from Aperture. The adjustments are obviously not going to be compatible, so I think I will be stuck with whatever I applied until the day I change over. Its not the end of the world, but something to consider.

Ah gotcha. Yeah, Aperture edits will be gone but I assume you would export things as tiff or psd for anything you want as permanent. I did that with my "portfolio" images. This was the best move guide for me and was really helpful in explaining some of the what and why. There are other but read through them so you understand it. The section here on previews will help. I also found that having to reapply some of the edits helped me learn LR. I knew how I wanted it to look, a copy of what I had in Aperture. That's the positive spin on a lengthy process

 

[btrach144]

This is caused by the Nvidia Web driver, Apple's system driver does not have this problem.

I'm using AMD graphics so maybe that's why I haven't encountered this error?

 

[avflinsch]

Hi,

I really love Aperture and just can't come around to let it go. At the same time, I'd like to upgrade to El Capitan.

Has anyone been able to verify that Aperture not only boots up but works near flawlessly in El Capitan?

Thanks

Aperture 3.6 is working - but seems much much slower under El Capitan than it was under Yosemite

 

[Robbi Newman]

I tried all the alternate programs after the announcement and I hated them all. I tried Lightroom a couple months later again and still, I just went back to Aperture. Photos definitely was not going to be good enough. But last week, I just knew it was time. I found a really good guide to switch. I took my time...it took a full day to clean everything up and get it ready and then another day to import it all to Lightroom. I think the process is part of why I hated everything and kept putting it off. It all felt daunting and complicated to move.

Now I've been playing but with LR for a few days trying to work out my flow and it's not as bad as I thought it would be. I figured out all my basic tasks and settled on a way to organize everything. I export jpgs for Photos and started fresh there. I can actually use iCloud Photo Library now and it's not all messed up. Ha!

Basically you're going to have to do it in the near future so might as well get it over with. I really did love Aperture though. The move is tedious but in the end I don't have to worry about Aperture disappearing from the store or computers crashing, etc.

Try Capture One and Media Pro...its a 2 part part solution but its a serious pro outfit...eats the pants of anything else. They need to bundle it together and its a bit pricey but if you are serious its worth a look.
Its a product by Phase One...google it, or whatever you use

 

[texem]

This is caused by the Nvidia Web driver, Apple's system driver does not have this problem.

And the latest webdriver update from yesterday didn't fix this :-(

 

[0970373]

Try Capture One and Media Pro...its a 2 part part solution but its a serious pro outfit...eats the pants of anything else. They need to bundle it together and its a bit pricey but if you are serious its worth a look.
Its a product by Phase One...google it, or whatever you use

I have tried them. A great alternative to Aperture. In the end, I went with Lightroom as it suits my needs and workflow best. But it is more powerful that I had expected.

 

[lk400]

Aperture 3.6 is working - but seems much much slower under El Capitan than it was under Yosemite

Do you mind elaborating? is there anything in particular that is slower (e.g. imports, loading each photo, performing edits), or everything? Is there any difference between RAW or JPG?

Thanks!