Does Apple slows down iPads just like they do with older iPhones??

[macTW]

I have an iPad Air 2 and had it for over 2 years now and believe it or not it is still on iOS 9.3.4 and am not looking to upgrade to iOS 11 because I want to have the best performance and awesome smoothness on my iPad and the fear of Apple might be slowing down the iPads as well.

But I am wondering does Apple slows down iPads just like they do with older iPhones??


I am really really curious about if Apple actually does this to iPads as well because of the news about Apple slowing older iPhones to protect the battery.

Can anyone test this on there iPads please to see if Apple actually slows down iPads as well??

I really really hope Apple does not slow down iPads as well!!!!

They don’t even slow down the iPhones. Why would they slow down the iPads?

They cap power-intensive draws to prevent battery shutdowns. That’s not slowing down the phones. The phones will have slower speeds because of the lack of power received, but it isn’t a “slowdown” or “planned obscelesence” or anything you want to cry about.

 

[rui no onna]

They don’t even slow down the iPhones. Why would they slow down the iPads?

They cap power-intensive draws to prevent battery shutdowns. That’s not slowing down the phones. The phones will have slower speeds because of the lack of power received, but it isn’t a “slowdown” or “planned obscelesence” or anything you want to cry about.

There do appear to be some extreme cases where phones have slowed down below acceptable levels (GB4 scores between iPhone 4S and iPhone 5). If that's the peak performance delivered, then even normal operation would suffer. I don't like using the 4S on iOS 7. I can't imagine how much worse it'll be on iOS 11.

 

[Raist3001]

They don’t even slow down the iPhones. Why would they slow down the iPads?

They cap power-intensive draws to prevent battery shutdowns. That’s not slowing down the phones. The phones will have slower speeds because of the lack of power received, but it isn’t a “slowdown” or “planned obscelesence” or anything you want to cry about.

OK, let me see if I understand your point.....Apple institutes a power management solution that prevents battery shutdowns, which directly affects the speed of your phone, and you think this is not by design?

 

[macTW]

OK, let me see if I understand your point.....Apple institutes a power management solution that prevents battery shutdowns, which directly affects the speed of your phone, and you think this is not by design?

Let me try to understand your point.

This is what you think: Apple board members sitting and talking, saying “to sell more iPhones, let’s slow old phones down!” and everyone agreeing.

Which is an idiotic idea at best to think occured.

 

[Raist3001]

Let me try to understand your point.

This is what you think: Apple board members sitting and talking, saying “to sell more iPhones, let’s slow old phones down!” and everyone agreeing.

Which is an idiotic idea at best to think occured.

No, that was not my thinking at all. You know what they say about assuming?
My question stands. Which you did not answer.

 

[DNichter]

Probably not, unless it has a bad battery. I don't think anyone can answer at this point.

 

[KingSH007]

OK, let me see if I understand your point.....Apple institutes a power management solution that prevents battery shutdowns, which directly affects the speed of your phone, and you think this is not by design?

Yes, it is not by design. It is to solve a problem. If it were by design, Apple would have introduced this years ago. Or at least with 10.0. Why 10.2.1? Because that's when they discovered this problem. They never planned to slow down old iPhones.

I have a 5S on 9.3.3, and it has 30% of its battery capacity (500mAh instead of 1500). Geekbench scores are just as high as on iOS 7.1.2. If Apple wanted people to upgrade, they wouldn't have done this.

 

[Raist3001]

Yes, it is not by design. It is to solve a problem.

So apple instituted a solution that just happened to also throttle performance? Without their knowledge?

 

[Aydy]

Let me try to understand your point.

This is what you think: Apple board members sitting and talking, saying “to sell more iPhones, let’s slow old phones down!” and everyone agreeing.

Which is an idiotic idea at best to think occured.

TBF this is exactly what many people think. Its more idiotic to consider board members “don’t” strategically discuss enhancing sales, which is all good and expected, it’s just the controversy of the past few weeks has legitimately imo brought Apple’s ethics to the fore. Wrong doing or No wrong doing this has shaken people’s trust right now and your comment makes it sound bizarre that anyone could think such a thing of Apple, yet had you read through many of the threads here and elsewhere you would be aware that what you find “idiotic” seems to be the general consensus, Unless you’ve been living under a metaphorical rock this past month of course..

 

[macTW]

TBF this is exactly what many people think. Its more idiotic to consider board members “don’t” strategically discuss enhancing sales, which is all good and expected, it’s just the controversy of the past few weeks has legitimately imo brought Apple’s ethics to the fore. Wrong doing or No wrong doing this has shaken people’s trust right now and your comment makes it sound bizarre that anyone could think such a thing of Apple, yet had you read through many of the threads here and elsewhere you would be aware that what you find “idiotic” seems to be the general consensus, Unless you’ve been living under a metaphorical rock this past month of course..

I mean. Not to be political, but you see who’s in the US office. As well as many, many people who read headlines without reading content. And run with those headlines, as misleading and even false as they are, and form legitimate opinions from them.

So yes. Just because there are many forum posts about outrage doesn’t mean it’s logical.

 

[Raist3001]

I mean. Not to be political, but you see who’s in the US office. As well as many, many people who read headlines without reading content. And run with those headlines, as misleading and even false as they are, and form legitimate opinions from them.

So yes. Just because there are many forum posts about outrage doesn’t mean it’s logical.

Nothing you said is logical. Not to be political? Why were you then? It was totally of topic and irrelevant. Are you going to continue to doge the bullet? Or answer the question i asked in post 28?

 

[macTW]

Nothing you said is logical. Not to be political? Why were you then? It was totally of topic and irrelevant. Are you going to continue to doge the bullet? Or answer the question i asked in post 28?

You really want me to answer your poorly thought out question huh.

Apple chose to limit battery pull for peak needs when the batter isn’t capable of handling the draw and would otherwise shutdown. That is the design Apple chose.

That happens to, on occasion, slow the phone down as one reason the peak draw is passed is cpu intensive tasks. If that’s what happens, that’s what happens.

To say Apple designed it to specifically slow phones down, like you are, is ridiculous and a pretty idiotic assumption to make. That directly assumes Apple big wigs sat down and said “let’s slow old phones down.” One has to truly be blinded by their dislike of Apple to believe that nonsense.

You have the right to disagree, but you’d be continuing to try to push an anti Apple narrative you’ve chosen to value over true facts.

 

[Aydy]

You really want me to answer your poorly thought out question huh.

Apple chose to limit battery pull for peak needs when the batter isn’t capable of handling the draw and would otherwise shutdown. That is the design Apple chose.

That happens to, on occasion, slow the phone down as one reason the peak draw is passed is cpu intensive tasks. If that’s what happens, that’s what happens.

To say Apple designed it to specifically slow phones down, like you are, is ridiculous and a pretty idiotic assumption to make. That directly assumes Apple big wigs sat down and said “let’s slow old phones down.” One has to truly be blinded by their dislike of Apple to believe that nonsense.

You have the right to disagree, but you’d be continuing to try to push an anti Apple narrative you’ve chosen to value over true facts.

So if Apple big wigs didn’t sit down and decide to “slow down old phones” (Lets call it throttling for what it is) then who did? Because someone did!

Throttling an iP6, iP7 etc results in limited performance and a significant hit on overall device speed which Apple chose not to disclose to the consumer until it was discovered by a user. People (conspiracists) who have long suspected Apple implemented planned obsolescence as practice have rightly or wrongly “used” this information discovery as confirmation of skullduggery by Apple, insisting that non disclosure did in fact result in many users upgrading their hardware when a simple, cost effective battery replacement would have sufficed, had this information been made known to users when throttling occurred or imminent then perhaps people wouldn’t be prone to make “Idiotic Assumptions”...many of the users affected who had been in touch with Apple support were still kept in the dark with regard to their under performing device & replacing the battery was never offered as solution nor explanation. There was no fix, other than putting up or upgrading. We now know different..

Honestly, can you not see how people come to make “idiotic assumptions”? Again if Apple didn’t make the decision to slow down (throttle) iPhones, then conversely decide to not disclose why, how and solution...Then who did?

 

[bjet767]

That’s not slowing down the phones. The phones will have slower speeds because of the lack of power received, but it isn’t a “slowdown” or “planned obscelesence” or anything you want to cry about.

Here’s the end effect, it made the performance and experience of my iPhone 6 horrible and sub standard. Did they do it to get me to buy an X? It doesn’t matter it had that effect.

Apple did a really poor job on this one and the market reaction has proven that to be true. Yes users have the right to be really unhappy with this “fix.”

 

[Raist3001]

Apple chose to limit battery pull for peak needs when the batter isn’t capable of handling the draw and would otherwise shutdown. That is the design Apple chose. That happens to, on occasion, slow the phone down as one reason the peak draw is passed is cpu intensive tasks. If that’s what happens, that’s what happens.

So now You are moving the goal posts. But that is understandable as you trying to support nonsense assumptions. You claimed it was not by design and now you say it is. Please make up your mind. The question stands. Apple designed a solution to resolve a battery issue, and they were not aware that it affected performance?

To say Apple designed it to specifically slow phones down

Who said it was?

like you are,

Really? Moving those goal posts again aren't you.

One has to truly be blinded by their dislike of Apple to believe that nonsense.

Dislike of apple? Do you always cherry pick debates and make highly emotional assumptions?

You have the right to disagree, but you’d be continuing to try to push an anti Apple narrative you’ve chosen to value over true facts.

Oh, have you posted facts? I must have missed them.

 

[barjam]

Just do your self a favor if you love Apple products and will continue to buy.......do not upgrade to new builds. Out of the box as you bought it is all you need. I have had 2 MacBook Airs motherboards and batties fry after only 2 years of owning them right after I upgraded to new builds. I don't think that is coincidence. Serious indictment but now with the admission of the iPhone issue i'm more suspect than ever.

This is awful, dangerous advice and should be ignored for anyone who plans to use an Apple device on the internet.

It is a bummer that non technical tinfoil hat wearing folks now have what they consider ammunition. In reality Apple put out a solid technical solution to a problem (a solution that will remain) without educating users. Technology illiterate folks have and will run with it.

The win here is Apple devices will let us know when the batteries are EOL from here on out, this is a good thing.

 

[Raist3001]

In reality Apple put out a solid technical solution to a problem (a solution that will remain) without educating users. Technology illiterate folks have and will run with it.

I agree that apple instituted a solid technical solution. But as you said, they did so without educating users. As someone who is Technology literate, I can see where apple derailed here. I do not believe for a second that apple is suddenly untrustworthy because of it. And as you said, the win for us is that apple devices will manage peak performance, and let us know when batteries are EOL. That is indeed a good thing

 

[nviz22]

Apple could, in theory, slow down an iPad because the larger batteries could be from similar manufacturers. However, you're more likely to reach a 500-1000 charge quantity with an iPhone than an iPad. iPad sales were, at one point, concerning for Apple. People aren't likely to buy iPads annually like iPhones though.

 

[BritishApple]

One thing I haven't noticed until recently, iOS performs a lot of background tasks after initial upgrade/setup so it's normal for the device to be a bit unresponsive and even run warm for the first day or so. After that's done, it just performs as normal.

I can’t believe there’s still people gullible enough to believe this “indexing” rubbish.

 

[DNichter]

I doubt it. I don't see the throttling as a big deal at all and I upgrade every year for my iPad and iPhone so it's irrelevant for me.

 

[rui no onna]

I can’t believe there’s still people gullible enough to believe this “indexing” rubbish.

When the phone is running much warmer than normal for a long period when you're not doing anything at all, that suggests background tasks. One of the things I noticed it doing after initial setup was facial recognition for the Photo Library.

 

[PKoz]

Is iOS self aware now? I didn't know this.

Yeah, what a crock. Apple slows down iPhones. Who programmed it? Apple. It's their design.

 

[Richard8655]

Yeah, what a crock. Apple slows down iPhones. Who programmed it? Apple. It's their design.

The problem is by keeping it secret, Apple shoots itself in the foot when it’s eventually discovered. Ultimately worse than the solution itself. What it does with iPads behind the scenes is now even more intriguing.

 

[apolloa]

No they don’t slow them down, but iOS 11 runs like utter dog **** on my 9.7” Pro, I mean really rubbish. I’ll have to do a complete wipe and reinstall at some point.

 

[BritishApple]

When the phone is running much warmer than normal for a long period when you're not doing anything at all, that suggests background tasks. One of the things I noticed it doing after initial setup was facial recognition for the Photo Library.

Indexing after an update that causes lag, etc is a myth.