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Apple_Robert

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Really a bummer if it’s true
“Reducing the time that your iPad spends fully charged reduces the wear on your battery. With iPad Pro (M4) and iPad Air (M2), you can choose to limit charging at 80 percent, which can help prolong your battery's lifespan. When you choose 80% Limit, your iPad will charge up to about 80 percent and then stop charging. If the battery charge level gets down to 75 percent, charging will resume until your battery charge level reaches about 80 percent again. You can enable or disable this feature in Settings > Battery > Battery Health.”

 

k1ckdapro

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Just received mine and checked. It has the 80% charge limit option. You can't, however, chose like on the iPhones (80%, 85%, 90%, 95%).
 

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Johnny365

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Plus devices are meant to be used. That's what AC+ is for (battery/waranty replacements).
 

Cirlonde

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I don't have much interest in the 80% Limit option, but I'm really happy to see the extra battery health info will be available (unlike on the mini 6). I'm just a nerd and like to know stuff! So I love being able to see the cycle count and maximum capacity. 🤓 Ready for mine to get here this afternoon, c'mon UPS!
 

Digitalguy

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Why on earth doesn’t every device get that with iOS 18?

It seems like the absolute definition of a pure software feature
Because Apple knows that it would increase the battery longevity of iPads, and battery is one of the main reasons why people upgrade, so why give it to older iPads... not in their financial interest... it's already a miracle their are doing this now, after people have been requesting it for years and Android and Windows have had this for many years.
 
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turbineseaplane

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Because Apple knows that it would increase the battery longevity of iPads, and battery is one of the main reasons why people upgrade, so why give it to older iPads... not in their financial interest... it's already a miracle their are doing this now, after people have been requesting it for years and Android and Windows have had this for many years.

I think you're right

Boy oh boy ...I hate to let this company force me into "cynical mode" to this degree, but I can't see any other rationale for not putting this out for all devices running iOS 18

Like...can't we do anything that's purely for the consumers benefit?
 

LowerWolf

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I'll ask here rather than create a new thread:

Day 1 with my new Mini 7, my battery is down to about 40 percent. When I looked at the cycles, it's already at 1. I haven't charged it all today. Is that normal? Can it get drained and recharged before it ships out?

I always get a little paranoid when I get a new toy.
 

Pezimak

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Just received mine and checked. It has the 80% charge limit option. You can't, however, chose like on the iPhones (80%, 85%, 90%, 95%).

That’s one up on my M1 Pro, with iOS 18 they removed the battery health percentage reading, cycle count etc and certainly never gave it a charge limit. I’d wouldn’t mind knowing why…
 

rui no onna

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That’s one up on my M1 Pro, with iOS 18 they removed the battery health percentage reading, cycle count etc and certainly never gave it a charge limit. I’d wouldn’t mind knowing why…

iPads never had that info in Settings prior to the M2 Air and M4 Pro.

I had to use iOS Shortcuts to check battery health and charge cycles. I also used a HomeKit smart plug to keep battery charge between 70-80% for iPads that are plugged in 24/7.
 

rob2bob

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I'll ask here rather than create a new thread:

Day 1 with my new Mini 7, my battery is down to about 40 percent. When I looked at the cycles, it's already at 1. I haven't charged it all today. Is that normal? Can it get drained and recharged before it ships out?

I always get a little paranoid when I get a new toy.
Count cycles count on the reduction not the increase in charge. So to go down to 40% assuming you had it delivered at say 90% counts as 50% or half of one cycle. Mine arrived at 90% charge... but on set up it was plugged in so charged to 100% then has dropped to 30% and now is registering 1 count cycle. I assume there is a little initial charge increase and drop that is in the mix from new. Do not stress!
 
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FreakinEurekan

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I'll ask here rather than create a new thread:

Day 1 with my new Mini 7, my battery is down to about 40 percent. When I looked at the cycles, it's already at 1. I haven't charged it all today. Is that normal? Can it get drained and recharged before it ships out?

I always get a little paranoid when I get a new toy.
This. This is why Apple doesn’t want to put health information into the UI at all. People OBSESSING over their battery, and at how many cycles it drops from 100% down to 99% or (gasp!) NINETY-SEVEN PERCENT the world is ending! (-‸ლ)

I understand the need for transparency, but we the consumers have to be responsible with the information. If I were Apple, you’d see the actual percentage only once it’s below 80% or 85%. Above that, you’d just see “Battery Normal.”
 

Pezimak

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iPads never had that info in Settings prior to the M2 Air and M4 Pro.

I had to use iOS Shortcuts to check battery health and charge cycles. I also used a HomeKit smart plug to keep battery charge between 70-80% for iPads that are plugged in 24/7.

How do I use the shortcuts to see that info! Never knew you could do that. And yes I was probably confusing myself with my iPhone thinking my iPad had those features before iOS 18.
 

HobeSoundDarryl

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I think you're right

Boy oh boy ...I hate to let this company force me into "cynical mode" to this degree, but I can't see any other rationale for not putting this out for all devices running iOS 18

Like...can't we do anything that's purely for the consumers benefit?

Science says that if a man sits on a thinner wallet, it puts less of a strain on some vertebrae in his lower back. Apple seems remarkably focused on addressing that commonplace customer problem. ;)

In fact, all decisions seem remarkably focused on "thinning" exactly that above all else.
 
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rui no onna

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How do I use the shortcuts to see that info! Never knew you could do that. And yes I was probably confusing myself with my iPhone thinking my iPad had those features before iOS 18.

I found a Shortcut on reddit that does this. It basically reads the system logs and parse the battery stats from there.

Note, I don’t know if the shortcut works with iPadOS 18 (or even 17). Apple occasionally changes around the log filename and format and the last time I used it was with iPadOS 16.

Alternately, you can use Coconut Battery (Mac) and iMazing (Windows) to get your battery stats. This method is probably easier.
 
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LowerWolf

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Count cycles count on the reduction not the increase in charge. So to go down to 40% assuming you had it delivered at say 90% counts as 50% or half of one cycle. Mine arrived at 90% charge... but on set up it was plugged in so charged to 100% then has dropped to 30% and now is registering 1 count cycle. I assume there is a little initial charge increase and drop that is in the mix from new. Do not stress!
Mine was at 83% charge out of the box. At 40%, it had registered one cycle. I used 43% since I hadn't plugged it in yet. That means either 57% was used before it got to me or it's registering cycles wrong. I'm assuming it's the former, but paranoid it could be the latter.

I did a little more research and saw some people had phones at 1 cycle straight out of the box. I'm 99 percent sure it's fine, but I'll keep an eye on it just in case.
 
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