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George Dawes

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I mainly use mine to game on , it's amazing tbh

Basic Emails and surfing too , anything complex I use my 27" iMac

I love mine
 

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Personally, I was (and still a bit now) hung up on the word "Pro" for the Pro line. It made me judge the Pro line more harshly. I ended up realizing for my use case, the Pro and the basic iPad will accomplish the same task. While the experience will be nicer for on the Pro, I had no problem with my Mini 4 vs 2018 11" Pro. (The larger screen of the 11" Pro is nice though for remote logging into computer! Lol ? ).
They should ditch the ‘Pro’ moniker, and call them ‘iPad Premium’. That covers both the features and the cost. ?
 
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cardfan

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I don’t feel that’s a need. Nice to have for some of us but Apple serves a way bigger market with iPads than they do with Macs I guess. If Apple wanted to go the Surface route they would have done that a while ago?

Being able to boot into either macOS or iPadOS isn’t the surface route. Or fast switch between OS’s.

Ideally you do want just macOS. But Apple has a lot of work to do with iOS apps running in macOS. It’s garbage. Lack of devs that even care to enable them or make them available.

But bottom line is that iPadOS itself limits any kind of iPad Pro concept. You may as well get the entry level iPad. Or iPad Air if you want better specs.
 

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I guess today's announcement is for AirPods Premium Premium Premium? ? ?
The Pro is short for "Pro-fits". So if they release a slightly faster iPad Max Pro then you’ll know exactly what they mean.
 
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Plenty of hospitals use iPads and they are easier than laptops to enter patient info. Plenty of service techs use iPads as again they are easier than laptops. I know last 2 jobs I have had we have used iPads. Here every tech gets one.
I like it in the classroom for a similar reason. I teach medieval literature at a college, and it's light-weight to carry into a classroom, I can have the day's readings and articles on it and use it like an instructor's textbook, I can use TeacherKit to take attendance, I can use it to project images to the Smart Board, then use it as a whiteboard as I walk around, and I can use the Apple Pencil to mark student papers--either sitting in my office or walking down the halls when my butt gets tired of sitting.

For me, the iPad shines as an item you can use while walking around--in jobs where you are mobile. i.e., hospitals, construction sites, classrooms.
 

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I like it in the classroom for a similar reason. I teach medieval literature at a college, and it's light-weight to carry into a classroom, I can have the day's readings and articles on it and use it like an instructor's textbook, I can use TeacherKit to take attendance, I can use it to project images to the Smart Board, then use it as a whiteboard as I walk around, and I can use the Apple Pencil to mark student papers--either sitting in my office or walking down the halls when my butt gets tired of sitting.

For me, the iPad shines as an item you can use while walking around--in jobs where you are mobile. i.e., hospitals, construction sites, classrooms.
one of the main point of touch screen is precisely to make the device usable when not sitting or in some contexts where the use of a physical keyboard and mouse/touchpad is not possible or not convenient (for example in vertical surfaces, on a music rest or whereverthere is no space for a keyboard)
 

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I like it in the classroom for a similar reason. I teach medieval literature at a college, and it's light-weight to carry into a classroom, I can have the day's readings and articles on it and use it like an instructor's textbook, I can use TeacherKit to take attendance, I can use it to project images to the Smart Board, then use it as a whiteboard as I walk around, and I can use the Apple Pencil to mark student papers--either sitting in my office or walking down the halls when my butt gets tired of sitting.

For me, the iPad shines as an item you can use while walking around--in jobs where you are mobile. i.e., hospitals, construction sites, classrooms.
No such devices existed when I was in college. Back in those days we had Mac OS 8.x and it was real bad compared to today’s tech.
 

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No such devices existed when I was in college. Back in those days we had Mac OS 8.x and it was real bad compared to today’s tech.
I have always said this and I still stand by it--my life would have been MUCH different in college if iPads existed. All those days of lugging around backpacks full of hardback text books--ugh.
 
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BigMcGuire

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I have always said this and I still stand by it--my life would have been MUCH different in college if iPads existed. All those days of lugging around backpacks full of hardback text books--ugh.

My last few years in college - I had the 10.5 Pro and it was life changing. Buy the PDF version of the textbook, all the professors I had were cool with an iPad but not ok with a laptop - even math classes were ok with the iPad - even letting me use a TI-83 app on my iPad for tests (not the final tho).

I still have hundreds of lecture notes in folders on Notability today. Pretty cool to look back at that stuff. All the paper notes just seem to disappear.

A very different time indeed.
 
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My last few years in college - I had the 10.5 Pro and it was life changing. Buy the PDF version of the textbook, all the professors I had were cool with an iPad but not ok with a laptop - even math classes were ok with the iPad - even letting me use a TI-83 app on my iPad for tests (not the final tho).

I still have hundreds of lecture notes in folders on Notability today. Pretty cool to look back at that stuff. All the paper notes just seem to disappear.

A very different time indeed.
Funny you mention Notability--the first time I used Notability, the first thing I thought of was how handy that app would have been for lecture hall classes. Being able to add the recording of the actual lecture right into your handwritten notes? Holy cow I would have loved that in Western Civ or Psych 101.
 
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Funny you mention Notability--the first time I used Notability, the first thing I thought of was how handy that app would have been for lecture hall classes. Being able to add the recording of the actual lecture right into your handwritten notes? Holy cow I would have loved that in Western Civ or Psych 101.
Yep! Especially for Pre-cal - taking pictures of the chalkboard and projections (yes my professor still used those) and popping that right in my notes, lol. It was pretty epic.

Kids got it easy today! :p
 
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Just curious how you guys' experience is in using iPad for textbooks?

I went to college before the iPad days and lugged around all the textbooks. I'm used to putting sticky notes on different pages so I can jump around in the textbook..especially for homework. I have a hard time jumping to different pages quickly on the iPad. I probably just need to get used to it..but I have less incentive since not in school anymore. ?
 

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Just curious how you guys' experience is in using iPad for textbooks?

I went to college before the iPad days and lugged around all the textbooks. I'm used to putting sticky notes on different pages so I can jump around in the textbook..especially for homework. I have a hard time jumping to different pages quickly on the iPad. I probably just need to get used to it..but I have less incentive since not in school anymore. ?
My wife uses PDF Expert and prefers that. She takes notes on the margins with that app too - highlights and what not.

I prefer cutting pages (screenshot) out of the book and popping them into Notability, then doing notes, taking pictures of chalkboard/projections, and recording audio.
 
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rui no onna

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Just curious how you guys' experience is in using iPad for textbooks?

I went to college before the iPad days and lugged around all the textbooks. I'm used to putting sticky notes on different pages so I can jump around in the textbook..especially for homework. I have a hard time jumping to different pages quickly on the iPad. I probably just need to get used to it..but I have less incentive since not in school anymore. ?

iPads weren't available when I was in college but I did use one while studying for EIT. Well, I used two iPads so I can read on one while easily being able to view other textbooks for reference. Luckily, I didn't return the 32GB iPad 2 and just gave it to my mom when I got the 64GB iPad 2. ?

Sometimes, I'd have the practice test booklet or printouts while using both iPads as reference. The Pencil sure would've been useful to have back then.

The combined weight of the two iPad 2s was still lighter than just one of the hardbound textbooks. ?
 
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iPads weren't available when I was in college but I did use one while studying for EIT. Well, I used two iPads so I can read on one while easily being able to view other textbooks for reference. Luckily, I didn't return the 32GB iPad 2 and just gave it to my mom when I got the 64GB iPad 2. ?

Sometimes, I'd have the practice test booklet or printouts while using both iPads as reference. The Pencil sure would've been useful to have back then.

The combined weight of the two iPad 2s was still lighter than just one of the hardbound textbooks. ?
I started college in 1995 and graduated in 2000. Throughout that entire time, I knew maybe 5 people who owned laptops and I knew exactly one person who owned a cell phone. I remember the first time I tried my friend's new Dell laptop, and he was bragging about how he splurged for the bigger 6 GB hard drive on it so he could fit more episodes of South Park on it.

If you were a dorm dweller, you could spring for an internet connected dorm room in select buildings. What that meant was there was a desktop computer connected to the internet in your room so that you could access the web via a dial up connection. You also got a campus email account that you had to access with Telnet. Pretty archaic stuff.
 
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rui no onna

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I started college in 1995 and graduated in 2000. Throughout that entire time, I knew maybe 5 people who owned laptops and I knew exactly one person who owned a cell phone. I remember the first time I tried my friend's new Dell laptop, and he was bragging about how he splurged for the bigger 6 GB hard drive on it so he could fit more episodes of South Park on it.

If you were a dorm dweller, you could spring for an internet connected dorm room in select buildings. What that meant was there was a desktop computer connected to the internet in your room so that you could access the web via a dial up connection. You also got a campus email account that you had to access with Telnet. Pretty archaic stuff.

Lol, I went to college in the Philippines back in 2002. I think I only had one or two classmates with laptops (both were rich). Internet inside dorm rooms? Pfft. Most people went to the computer labs to get PCs with internet access.
 

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iPads weren't available when I was in college but I did use one while studying for EIT.
Portable computers weren't available when I was in college (at least not that also came with batteries and screens). ;)

Anyway my iPad Pro arrived today. It seems to be making sense so far...
 

KittyKatta

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Just curious how you guys' experience is in using iPad for textbooks?

I went to college before the iPad days and lugged around all the textbooks. I'm used to putting sticky notes on different pages so I can jump around in the textbook..especially for homework. I have a hard time jumping to different pages quickly on the iPad. I probably just need to get used to it..but I have less incentive since not in school anymore. ?
My kids didnt like textbooks on computers for Virtual School because they lost physical page turning and post-it bookmarks. But when I showed them how to search for keywords and how they could long-press to look up word definitions (and ⌘+Space to sneak some basic math) then they quickly changed their tune. We've also repurposed old iPads as 2nd screens and now their productivity is really amazing.

BTW. I think the biggest joy for me in all this is seeing "outdated" gear being put to good use still. We've dusted off a 2010 White MacBook, 2011 MacBook Pro, 2015 iPad Pro, Mini 4 and I lent out a bunch of old iPhones to their classmates and it all works fine. So its nice to see that, in the hands of students who dont care about benchmarks or 'omg it sucks because theres no pro-motion!", then old tech is proving to be immensely valuable to people who have nothing.
 
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I started college in 1995 and graduated in 2000. Throughout that entire time, I knew maybe 5 people who owned laptops and I knew exactly one person who owned a cell phone. I remember the first time I tried my friend's new Dell laptop, and he was bragging about how he splurged for the bigger 6 GB hard drive on it so he could fit more episodes of South Park on it.

If you were a dorm dweller, you could spring for an internet connected dorm room in select buildings. What that meant was there was a desktop computer connected to the internet in your room so that you could access the web via a dial up connection. You also got a campus email account that you had to access with Telnet. Pretty archaic stuff.

OK, so how many of you youngsters remember IBM punch cards, keypunch machines, and card readers? Each punch card could hold 80 characters. I recall gathering with a few grad school friends up in our office. We'd go to the computer center, submit our jobs, walk back to the office, play a few hands of pinochle, and drink a little beer. We'd then go back to the computer center, make any changes we needed to make, and submit our jobs. We did it at night because it could take hours to get results back during the day. BTW, the output was on big wide sheets of paper. I know, I'm a codger.
 
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OK, so how many of you youngsters remember IBM punch cards, keypunch machines, and card readers? Each punch card could hold 80 characters. I recall gathering with a few grad school friends up in our office. We'd go to the computer center, submit our jobs, walk back to the office, play a few hands of pinochle, and drink a little beer. We'd then go back to the computer center, make any changes we needed to make, and submit our jobs. We did it at night because it could take hours to get results back during the day. BTW, the output was on big wide sheets of paper. I know, I'm a codger.
I definitely don't go THAT far back, but I did use my fair share of giant sized floppies in the high school computer lab. And yes, those were text-based green text MS-DOS computers. (Some of the newer ones were orange text!)
 
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tops2

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Lol. Nice to hear all the different experiences! ?

Seems like age is all relative huh?

I remember in college needing to physically submit computer programming projects on 3.5" floppies. And remember needing to bring multiple disks cause sometimes the disk gets corrupted. The internet was starting to get big back then too (1997) and mp3 were first starting. We had to search for them by manually connecting to everyone's computer and just manually browser their directories. A few years later, the kids younger then me were talking about Napster and I was like..Naps-what?
 

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My last few years in college - I had the 10.5 Pro and it was life changing. Buy the PDF version of the textbook, all the professors I had were cool with an iPad but not ok with a laptop - even math classes were ok with the iPad - even letting me use a TI-83 app on my iPad for tests (not the final tho).

I still have hundreds of lecture notes in folders on Notability today. Pretty cool to look back at that stuff. All the paper notes just seem to disappear.

A very different time indeed.

In my day it was paper books, paper notepads, pens and pencils, and audio tape recorders not excluding floppy disks. How do students these days record lectures? Digital voice recorders or iPad?
 
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