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Tarzanman

macrumors 65816
Jul 16, 2010
1,304
15
I will buy whichever product gets equipped with lasers first.

I want to be able to laser blast my cat when I catch him doing bad stuff.

PEW PEW PEW!
 

b166er

macrumors 68020
Apr 17, 2010
2,062
18
Philly
Although I think Google Glass is cool, there are far too many issues surrounding privacy that will keep GG from going mainstream.

Someone will end up suing a GG user for video taping them without consent and that will severely cripple any widespread adoption. Maybe it will work for newscasters or service people like police and doctors, where having personal video could be helpful, but even then the issue of personal privacy will remain.

If you are in public, you are consenting to being video taped/photographed.

I was on at least a dozen cameras already today and no one asked my permission.
 

melchior

macrumors 65816
Nov 17, 2002
1,241
120
i have a pebble, which definitely fills a gap for me and I'm sure any apple watch would be better in many ways (and there is definitely a lot of room for improvement among all the bluetooth watches out so far)

The watch has one thing of google glass, you wear it on your wrist.

Otherwise wearable HUD computing will beat down any watch in terms of functionality. It is the difference between pulling back the sleeve on my wrist to see the notification and looking up while continuing to do what i'm doing with my hands.

I have many uses for google glass and i will probably get my hands on a set when they go into mainstream production at the end of the year. That said, I don't have an office job and i don't live in america.

I still see this as the future and would be surprised if apple doesn't follow up quickly. This is the new battle ground beyond smart phones and computers that all have the same capability.

Wearable HUD with camera and controls on a watch would be ideal in a single package.
 

ucfgrad93

macrumors Core
Aug 17, 2007
19,579
10,875
Colorado
The two products seem to be pretty unrelated and I don't see them in competition with each other
Yes, there are some overlapping capabilities, but the differences are greater than the similarities IMO

Agreed. I think that they will be niche products.
 

cynics

macrumors G4
Jan 8, 2012
11,959
2,156
Although I think Google Glass is cool, there are far too many issues surrounding privacy that will keep GG from going mainstream.

Someone will end up suing a GG user for video taping them without consent and that will severely cripple any widespread adoption. Maybe it will work for newscasters or service people like police and doctors, where having personal video could be helpful, but even then the issue of personal privacy will remain.

As long as you aren't in a place that you have "expectation of privacy" people can video tape you all they want. You eating in a restaurant is ok, you using that restaurants bathroom is not ok for someone to video tape you.

Even if someone was video taping you in a place that had expectation of privacy the device manufacture is not liable. There are much less discreet methods of video taping someone. With Google Glass you would need to stare at the person, its much easier to set a phone to record and pretend you are talking on it.
 

The iGentleman

macrumors 6502a
Jul 13, 2012
543
0
iWatch and Google Glass are not competing products. The iWatch will be in competition with the Motorola's smartwatch. Glass is in its own category, there really isn't any competing product.
 
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Assault

macrumors 6502a
Mar 19, 2013
513
0
in the taint
iWatch and Google Glass are not competing products. The iWatch will be in competition with the Motorola's smartwatch. Glass is in its own category, there really isn't any competing product.

Not sure what all this talk is about? iWatch is rumor and vaporware. Pebble watch is real andon people's wrists. Google Glass is already out, as of yesterday, to those 8000 people that are getting the eearly release (so no longer vaporware). Both of these products are better than iWatch, because no such product exists and may never exist. Saying otherwise, is hopeful dreaming.

But here is some speculation - Apple buys out Pebble. Shuts down the business and then creates an identical product, but adds the word "amazing" or "revolutionary" to it.

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Well, since the speculated "iWatch" is just a Pegasus, it will bury Glass! Um, no.

Apple chooses their market battles very carefully. They won't introduce either a smart watch or VR glasses just because internet nerds say they should.

They won't do it just because one of their competitors in one industry decides to develop a product in another market.

iPad Mini??? Larger iPhone??? Cheap, plastic iPhone for the low end market??? Now rumors of an iWatch, because Pebble has been a huge success and everyone is jumping on the bandwagon???

Appears to me, there are plenty of examples to negate your opinion.
 

b166er

macrumors 68020
Apr 17, 2010
2,062
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Philly
Both products have huge potential. Obviously if Apple makes their own version of the Pebble it will work smoothly with iOS and be really polished but it will likely only pair with an iPhone.

The Pebble is nice because it works on iOS and Android, so it's more of a general crowd pleaser. It's important to keep in mind it's a very young product, and it's really up to third party devs to make the pebble all it can be. In a few years I bet Pebble is either seriously doing cool things or they are at least bought out by Apple, Samsung, or Google.

Google glass is really cool but it's price is and will likely continue to be a crutch. Plus a watch is subtle, VS glass which is literally needs to be on your face to work right. But I'm sure in time they will streamline the design and price a bit.

I'm excited to see where both markets go, I don't think one will kill the other, but that they will exist side by side.
 

maxosx

macrumors 68020
Dec 13, 2012
2,385
1
Southern California
I don't wear a watch on my face or glasses on my wrist.

Therefore I'm not qualified to answer the question :D

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If you are in public, you are consenting to being video taped/photographed.

I was on at least a dozen cameras already today and no one asked my permission.

It's 2013, welcome to surveillance 24/7
 

b166er

macrumors 68020
Apr 17, 2010
2,062
18
Philly
I don't wear a watch on my face or glasses on my wrist.

Therefore I'm not qualified to answer the question :D

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It's 2013, welcome to surveillance 24/7

That's my point. I was telling the people who think Glass is "illegal" that their argument is more or less invalid since we are usually not far from being videotaped or otherwise surveilled. A lot of people think glass is DOA because it can record without people around knowing. But so can phones, a million commercial "spy" devices, and all the hidden cameras mounted on buildings and other high up places.

Some people just want glass to fail so they grab at anything.
 

roxxette

macrumors 68000
Aug 9, 2011
1,507
0
I am waiting for iDrone.

You want to talk about innovative.
;)

Im waiting for the REAL Android ! :eek:

hmm i dont think a watch will compete with Google glass, infact i dont think Google expect any competition anytime soon and they sure as hell know glass is not going to be a real consumer product soon.

Probably they only company that will make a big deal out of a "smartwatch" will be apple and of course it will sell very good :) whe all know that apple brand sells like nothing but i wouldnt expect anything groundbraking out of it and users will be able to just have access music controls, weather and stock apps notifications.
 

appletoandroid

macrumors member
Jan 25, 2013
64
0
I'm curious on how Google hopes to mainstream Glass. As it stands, Glass, according to what has been leaked, isn't a stand alone product. It complements your smartphone or mobile wifi. And at a price point of upwards over $1000, it's not something people will run out to the Play Store for right away. What's interesting is that it's not entering the market like smartphones did. Smartphones all but replaced cell phones. Where Glass is not replacing anything it's virtually a new product and a new market. But I imagine Glass having a tough time gaining traction. It might be a great and unique innovation, but it's not going to be widely available b/c of that price barrier.
 

Liquorpuki

macrumors 68020
Jun 18, 2009
2,286
8
City of Angels
Other than being wearable tech, they don't have anything in common. They're not even gonna compete in the same market.

iWatch is not gonna cost $1500.
 

The iGentleman

macrumors 6502a
Jul 13, 2012
543
0
Im waiting for the REAL Android ! :eek:

hmm i dont think a watch will compete with Google glass, infact i dont think Google expect any competition anytime soon and they sure as hell know glass is not going to be a real consumer product soon.

Probably they only company that will make a big deal out of a "smartwatch" will be apple and of course it will sell very good :) whe all know that apple brand sells like nothing but i wouldnt expect anything groundbraking out of it and users will be able to just have access music controls, weather and stock apps notifications.

There is already a smartwatch coming down the pipe from Motorola (Google). Glass would not be intended as a smartwatch competitor, that's what their smartwatch is for.
 

maxosx

macrumors 68020
Dec 13, 2012
2,385
1
Southern California
Other than being wearable tech, they don't have anything in common. They're not even gonna compete in the same market.

iWatch is not gonna cost $1500.

I agree. With Apples expertise at cost control I'd expect the iWatch to sell for no more than $1499. That's not only a savings of $1.00, but I believe it will be more comfortable as well. /teasing

Not that I will ever know, I have no interest in a Watch from a Tech Company.

If I'm going to wear something on my wrist, its going to be one of my luxury time pieces. Watches under $3,000 - $5,000 are everywhere & not very interesting.

When it comes to luxury time pieces, one enjoys the heritage, incredible old school euro craftsmanship, fascinating detail, and wonderful design.

In all actuality, most of us that wear these don't do so to keep track of time :)
 

Liquorpuki

macrumors 68020
Jun 18, 2009
2,286
8
City of Angels
I agree. With Apples expertise at cost control I'd expect the iWatch to sell for no more than $1499. That's not only a savings of $1.00, but I believe it will be more comfortable as well. /teasing

Not that I will ever know, I have no interest in a Watch from a Tech Company.

If I'm going to wear something on my wrist, its going to be one of my luxury time pieces. Watches under $3,000 - $5,000 are everywhere & not very interesting.

When it comes to luxury time pieces, one enjoys the heritage, incredible old school euro craftsmanship, fascinating detail, and wonderful design.

In all actuality, most of us that wear these don't do so to keep track of time :)

iWatch is gonna be more like a power balance bracelet
 

MRU

macrumors Penryn
Aug 23, 2005
25,370
8,952
a better place
If you are in public, you are consenting to being video taped/photographed.

I was on at least a dozen cameras already today and no one asked my permission.

Actually not wholly true.

You are not giving any consent. A person may film you, but should they wish to share that video commercially or just on the Internet (you tube) or such then they are meant to obtain consent from people in the video. Should they not do so anyone captured or used in the video can ask for it to be taken down, removed or if it was a commercial video (someone made money off it) then reimbursed/compensated for their appearance on it.

Security camera's do not apply as the contents aren't used except to track down criminals and then only the footage of the crime is ever used, and if bystanders are caught at same time their likenesses are blurred out / digitally distorted before that footage is ever shown publicly.
 

Jibbajabba

macrumors 65816
Aug 13, 2011
1,024
5
One's a watch, one's a pair of glasses ..

Would a handbag stand a chance against a pair of shoes ? Depends if you want to wear it or put stuff in it.
 

Assault

macrumors 6502a
Mar 19, 2013
513
0
in the taint
Actually not wholly true.

You are not giving any consent. A person may film you, but should they wish to share that video commercially or just on the Internet (you tube) or such then they are meant to obtain consent from people in the video. Should they not do so anyone captured or used in the video can ask for it to be taken down, removed or if it was a commercial video (someone made money off it) then reimbursed/compensated for their appearance on it.

Security camera's do not apply as the contents aren't used except to track down criminals and then only the footage of the crime is ever used, and if bystanders are caught at same time their likenesses are blurred out / digitally distorted before that footage is ever shown publicly.
Your laws in Ireland, Northern Ireland/UK are not the same as in the U.S. You should clarify where you live. The following only applies to the U.S. and its territories;
Recording of Individuals Without Their Consent

Most video recordings are legal with or without consent. There are very few laws which prohibit video recording of any kind, but there are laws in some areas dealing with areas of expected privacy.

Generally, it is perfectly legal to videotape or photograph any person and anything while on public property, except:

You cannot take pictures of areas that are usually considered private such as bedrooms, bathrooms, changing rooms, locker rooms, hotel rooms and so on
Certain public places have banned the use of cameras such as mass transit systems, courthouses, capital buildings, secured government buildings, jails or prisons unless you obtain written permission
You cannot film or photograph if it interferes with police, fire, medical or emergency operations
There are also restrictions on videotaping and photographing on private property:

If the private property is open to the public, such as retail stores, private stadiums or tourist areas, filming may be allowed unless there are signs posted that expressly forbid videotaping or photography
If the private property belongs to someone other than a commercial business, you had better get the property owner's permission
Source:*http://www.palmvid.com/content/support/legal-information-regarding-audio-and-video-recording.html

Source:*http://www.newmediarights.org/page/field_guide_audio_and_video_recordings#Video

Source:*http://communications-media.lawyers.com/privacy-law/Photography-or-Video-Taping-Consent.html
 
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