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iPod Doh! My new nano won't work with my Mac!
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Nothing new about bringing out new hardware and only have it workable with the newest software.
Why should those of us who have a current OS have to suffer an iPod crippled just so it will be backwards compatible and work for you?
Not from me, because I'd be running Leopard. A lot of Mac users leapfrog OS releases.
And seriously, will people stop telling us to upgrade to Tiger? We've held off upgrading for 2 years in waiting for Leopard. We're not going to upgrade now.
The point is that Apple should be supporting the 2 most recent OS's, especially when one of those was everyone's primary OS just as recently as 2005.
I still think that was Apple's intention. Unfortunately, Leopard was delayed til about a month or so after the release of the new iPods. They had a choice to either support 10.4 and later only, or go back and re-engineer the new products to work with 10.3. Personally, I don't think there's any technical reason the new iPods wouldn't work on 10.3 (I think the internals are largely the same as the 5.5G iPod and 2G nano (actually, I think the classic is probably using the Samsung System-On-Chip from the nano)), but they would have to at least run QA on that platform. This may have delayed the products. Apple might have decided it was better to support 10.4 only than to delay the products to test for the small # of 10.3 users.
Relatively that is very small.
What percent of iPod owners do you think are using 10.3? (I am talking about overall... Windows/Mac) I would imagine that percentage would be extremely small. And it is about to get even smaller with 10.5 coming out in just a few weeks.
IMO this thread is just stupid.
A user on here made an error and wants to blame it on Apple. Why didn't you read the website, look at the product or ask an Apple employee?
This is nothing new and it is being made into a big deal about nothing. As Steve Jobs said:
Did you know the last iPods only supported 10.3.9?
Didn't hear anyone with 10.2 complaining..
So.... apparently this is NOT an insignificant problem, despite all the naysayers in this thread. Just because you all have updated to the latest and greatest OS, doesn't mean that there aren't plenty of us who are hoping to extend the life of their older Apple products.
Adam, I don't want to sound disbelieving but are you exaggerating to any degree? Did the staff actually say a high volume of people are complaining? If so this can only be a good thing for getting 10.3 drivers made.
Good deal, I was going to suggest that very approach. It is pretty ****** that they do that. Good to hear they refunded you 100% and that there are more people with the same issue. Maybe that will make them support 10.3.
"It is better to remain silent and thought a fool then to speak up and remove all doubt" Abraham Lincoln
I have 10.3.9. I guess they decided only the newest Mac purchasers get to use the new ipods. Sort of sucks to bring the thing home, plug it in, and be denied. Now I have to decide if I want to pay $20 to return it, or put it on ebay.
You know they could make it compatible with my OS if they wanted to. They just don't want to, because they think they can force me to update to a new OS this way.
Is it my fault for not asking more questions at the store about whether it would work with my computer? Honestly, I bought into the hype of "it's a mac - stuff just works." I guess that line holds true for printers and cameras, but not with products actually made by Apple.
I'm amused by the number of people who are straight up mad at me in this thread. Mad that I would have the "nerve" to not own the latest everything.
sblasl, would you say something like that to somebody in real life? Nobody acts like that towards me in real life, so I have to wonder if the people on this board simply have no social skills, or if they are just relishing in their anonymoty.
sblasl, would you say something like that to somebody in real life? Nobody acts like that towards me in real life, so I have to wonder if the people on this board simply have no social skills, or if they are just relishing in their anonymoty.
My guess is that very few people in this thread give a rip about you (or how you chose to upgrade the OS on your Mac) to actually be mad at you.
They're simply responding to the baiting comments that you left in most of your posts.
Seems like you were amused all along. You did an excellent job of pushing about every button that could be pushed to get replies!
They're simply responding to the baiting comments that you left in most of your posts.
Seems like you were amused all along. You did an excellent job of pushing about every button that could be pushed to get replies!
My guess is that very few people in this thread give a rip about you (or how you chose to upgrade the OS on your Mac) to actually be mad at you.
They're simply responding to the baiting comments that you left in most of your posts.
Seems like you were amused all along. You did an excellent job of pushing about every button that could be pushed to get replies!
Couldn't have said it better myself!
Enjoy your Zune Adam...
im glad to see the mac community is as smug as ever. you guys really deserve the way everyone thinks you guys act like your crap dont stink. the OP has a fair issue. apple programs hardware etc should "just work", at least across the same damned OS.
Because the people who posted in this thread represent the entire Mac community, right?
I bet most folks here believe the OP has a fair issue, not that any discussion in this thread could change the minimum system requirements for the new iPods.
Again, I think it's the one or two lines in most of the OPs replies that (judging from the replies they generated) read to others as being intentionally provocative that have set the tone of this thread.
Well....that will teach us...
Here's a flash...technology marches on. Loss of legacy support is the name of the game. Windows XP isn't a valid argument vis a vis legacy support....many of us are using Macs because that crappy, buggy piece of bloatware (Windows XP) was so bad.
It's not the "same damned OS". They are two different OSes that we're talking about. We're actually talking about three different OSes: Panther, Tiger, and Leopard. I'm glad to know that the folks at the Apple Store gave the OP a break and let him return his Nano w/o a penalty; that's a good move on their part.
To the people who upgrade every other release of OSX: power to 'ya! You really can wait less than two months for your new OS to sync your new iPods..
Edit: I don't think I remember a mass complaint when it was found that the iPhone does not support 10.3..
Edit: I don't think I remember a mass complaint when it was found that the iPhone does not support 10.3..
Yes, it is his right.Your right...
Apple should support OS 9 too.
And no, Apple shouldn't support OS9. Just the previous version of OS X.
iPhone sales to date: a million?
iPod sales to date: over 100 million.
Go buy one then and get off these forums with this drivel. Your arguements are ridiculous at best.
They dont display that because it muddles up the store. There are about 10 people standing around to answer any question you have. Hell, if I was in there I would tell you. ASK SOMEONE for the love of god.
You're not being asked to pay anything to continue to use your hardware. Your computer functions just fine with 10.3.9....and every other piece of hardware you have works with it just fine. If you want the latest and greatest iPod, you have to have a somewhat new computer. If you don't have the latest computer (or at least one somewhat new), why should you have the latest iPod?
Besides, we aren't even talking about computers here. We're talking about a software upgrade. Maybe you didn't see the point in upgrading to 10.4 in the past. Perhaps the features weren't enough. Well, add owning a new iPod to that list. If you don't like it, take it back.
Many, many changes occurred under the hood in 10.4. Perhaps the new iPod takes advantage of these. We simply don't know.
This is preciously the reason companies put "hardware/software requirements" on the side of the box and on the web sites.
You don't think they'd let you see the box before buying it? I say if you're dumb enough to buy something without reading the box first you deserve what you get.