I think that's the mentality of the move, but I do think its a corner being cut that has higher implications then perhaps the system designers envisioned.
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Don't Buy 2019 Gaming Laptops Yet
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True as you don't need 32Gb for gaming, although for me a cost saving as twin banks of 8Gb would be replaced by default.
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Yes, go ahead and dangle the Zephyrus S in front of tech magpie’s beady eyes here.
And now I do not have to worry about where trackpads are.
I think you need one of these. Heck everyone needs one just for a conversation piece
To heck with thin and light! ( ͡^ ͜ʖ ͡^ )
Yea, a nice curved 21 inch screen and real mechanical keyboard and two gpu and upgradable
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The gigabyte laptops are nice also, small, a great screen and lite but just a little expensive.
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Yeah, I like those.
I just bought an Asus Scar II 15.6" with a RTX 2060. Expecting it to arrive this Thursday. $2299 CAD.
Be very careful buying a laptop with a 10xx series card in it. Many are trying to sell the old models listing full price with sales/discounts making it seem like a good deal, but really isn't. The new models with 20xx in them are not really much more money if considering the performance increase - eg. RTX 2060 = GTX 1070. They can get away with this because the new laptops are brand new and some not even available yet, but as soon as new ones are in stock then they will have to drop the older ones even more.
It is also my opinion that the best value for 1080p laptop is a RTX 2060. I could have bought a RTX 2070 for $2599 but the $300 difference for a few fps in most games is not justified, and better spent buying another 16GB stick to get dual-channel.
Be very careful buying a laptop with a 10xx series card in it. Many are trying to sell the old models listing full price with sales/discounts making it seem like a good deal, but really isn't. The new models with 20xx in them are not really much more money if considering the performance increase - eg. RTX 2060 = GTX 1070. They can get away with this because the new laptops are brand new and some not even available yet, but as soon as new ones are in stock then they will have to drop the older ones even more.
It is also my opinion that the best value for 1080p laptop is a RTX 2060. I could have bought a RTX 2070 for $2599 but the $300 difference for a few fps in most games is not justified, and better spent buying another 16GB stick to get dual-channel.
Yes this is very true... I added another 16GB to my GL504GV with RTX2060 (for total of 32GB) and was blown away how much better the performance is by enabling dual-channel memory. Many last gen 10-series laptops also shipped with a single stick so this isn't an entirely new situation. Not sure why Asus (and other companies) would want to cripple their products by not shipping with dual-channel.Wow, I had no idea that many game laptops moved on to single channel ram nor did I realize many apps were taking advantage of it.
Nice to see that Razer is still sticking with dual channel
Answer is rather simple. Lots of users want to upgrade themselves. I do that as well. That way I don't have to throw away 2x8GB stick, I can just put additional 16GB stick in there, and be done with it.
What game do you play which needs 32gb?. I only added a 16gb because I didn’t want to throw away existing 16gb. If it had 2X8gb already then there would be no need to upgrade for gaming purposes and I would have saved $130.
There are benchmarks and tests which show there 2x4gb even blows away a 1x16gb. It’s the dual channel which makes the significant difference and not the quantity of ram.
I'll think you'll find same as myself, it's nothing to do with gaming, more professional use.
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I’m seriously considering getting the Razer Blade 15” Base 2019 model. Ive been using my 2017 13” MBP for some gaming (with an eGPU), but it’s dual core processor just isn’t up to the snuff for much other than older 2013-15 games at best.
I would get a 2018 MBP, but the price is a bit of a turn off compared to what I could get a with the Razer Blade 15” base model. For roughly the same price as the base 2018 13” MBP with quad core and 8gb ram, I can get the Razer Blade with a hex core processor, 16gb Ram and a decent harddrive (oh and it’s all upgradable!). Plus it will still work with an EGPU.
My question is has anyone else had luck with the Razer Blade, particularly the 15” base model (with the GTX 1060)?
I would get a 2018 MBP, but the price is a bit of a turn off compared to what I could get a with the Razer Blade 15” base model. For roughly the same price as the base 2018 13” MBP with quad core and 8gb ram, I can get the Razer Blade with a hex core processor, 16gb Ram and a decent harddrive (oh and it’s all upgradable!). Plus it will still work with an EGPU.
My question is has anyone else had luck with the Razer Blade, particularly the 15” base model (with the GTX 1060)?
I've had a lot of luck with an ROG GL703GS
Best notebook I've ever used. It's not perfect mind, however it you want desktop performance in something you can throw in a backpack...
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Thank you for the suggestion! I will definitely give those a look. I finally decided to sell my 2017 13” MacBook Pro, as I’d like something that has more oomph, for photo editing and playing some graphically-demanding games.
With all the Macbook Pro “gates” and just the cost in general, I feel like I can probably find a better bang for my buck going back to Windows; I work in Windows for my day job, and it really isn’t that bad like it once was (talking to you Vista).
One question, does the ASUS have Thunderbolt 3? I would like something that could also be used with an EGPU, should I ever need a stronger graphics card.
Have a look here, they update the list quite often:
https://www.ultrabookreview.com/10579-laptops-thunderbolt-3/
Thanks for that! I’ll give that a look. Right now it’s just a waiting game to see when my MacBook Pro will sell so I can have the funds to buy something else. Lol.
Numbers are coming out now for the 9th Gen H series (mobile) CPU's and 20 series RTX GPU's. I'm still of the same mind unless you need the absolute fastest, you'll strike a far better deal with 8th Gen CPU & 20 series GTX GPU.
It's also worth considering that being a generation behind also allows for more mature drivers and less updates, something I learned myself when I switched predominantly back to Windows in 2016. These days I'm happy to hold off 6-12 months as most certainly 8th Gen CPU's and 10 series GPU's are no slouch by any means
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Sorry for late reply. No only USB C only on the GL703GS, Asus with Thunderbolt 3 I'd look at the new StudioBook, it's on my list as is a 17" notebook and 16:10 aspect ratio display. This is what a professional notebook should be like, lacking only HiDPI display, maybe in time.
Compare the StudioBook to the MacBook Pro and which one is "Pro" and which one is bluffing is easily apparent...
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It's also worth considering that being a generation behind also allows for more mature drivers and less updates, something I learned myself when I switched predominantly back to Windows in 2016. These days I'm happy to hold off 6-12 months as most certainly 8th Gen CPU's and 10 series GPU's are no slouch by any means
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Sorry for late reply. No only USB C only on the GL703GS, Asus with Thunderbolt 3 I'd look at the new StudioBook, it's on my list as is a 17" notebook and 16:10 aspect ratio display. This is what a professional notebook should be like, lacking only HiDPI display, maybe in time.
Compare the StudioBook to the MacBook Pro and which one is "Pro" and which one is bluffing is easily apparent...
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No worries! Thanks for the info!Numbers are coming out now for the 9th Gen H series (mobile) CPU's and 20 series RTX GPU's. I'm still of the same mind unless you need the absolute fastest, you'll strike a far better deal with 8th Gen CPU & 20 series GTX GPU.
It's also worth considering that being a generation behind also allows for more mature drivers and less updates, something I learned myself when I switched predominantly back to Windows in 2016. These days I'm happy to hold off 6-12 months as most certainly 8th Gen CPU's and 10 series GPU's are no slouch by any means
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Sorry for late reply. No only USB C only on the GL703GS, Asus with Thunderbolt 3 I'd look at the new StudioBook, it's on my list as is a 17" notebook and 16:10 aspect ratio display. This is what a professional notebook should be like, lacking only HiDPI display, maybe in time.
Compare the StudioBook to the MacBook Pro and which one is "Pro" and which one is bluffing is easily apparent...
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After a lot of debating, I decided to just build my own desktop PC instead of buying a gaming laptop. I want something that is more upgradability down the road, and with better cooling for the uses I want to use it for. Getting my ordered parts in Friday, looking forward to the project this weekend on my first build!
I’m actually going to keep the 2017 13” MacBook Pro because I’m not going to get anywhere near what I paid for it a year ago, so I might as well keep it and use it for my lighter browsing and mobile work (my not so “pro” uses, lol).
Realistically one can use any device professionally as long as it's appropriate for the task, although I do rather feel Apple is now being rather disingenuous outside of low sales & marketing. If I didn't need portable performance I too would opt for a desktop as they are simply better on multiple levels, especially in the long run. Likes of an SP6 would then serve my on the go needs.
Bad news regarding the resale, at least it has the extended keyboard coverage, nor do I think the 13" is so problematic as the 15", personally I think the keyboard is a big turn off for many as it simply feels cheap and certainly doesn't age well.
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Yeah, and I didn’t mean to say that the MacBook Pro couldn’t be used for professional work, but with a desktop solution my MBP swill end up taking a back seat on the intensive workloads.
I still have AppleCare for another 2 years and like you said the keyboard is good (well covered I mean) for 3 more years since I bought it refurbished directly from Apple. Honestly the keyboard wouldn’t be that big of a deal for me, if there wasn’t the constant worry about reliability.
But now I’ll have the what I need on two fronts: desktop power with a custom build, and mobility with the MacBook Pro when I need it.
Nothing earth shattering in the video but it does help explain what's up with the RTX video cards and further cements the idea that the GTX cards are a better deal
At this point I would agree that the GTX are a better deal, especially in thermally restricted laptops.
However, it would be worth noting that it is rumored than in late 2020 Playstation and likely Xbox will release new gaming consoles, and Playstation/AMD has already confirmed it will have ray-tracing. Once mainstream gaming consoles have ray-tracing abilities, I would say it is fair to expect that more, if not most triple-A game titles will utilize ray-tracing, and then people with an RTX will feel the reward of spending that extra money.
But for now, I am not spending $800-1000 on a graphics card that only has three games that truly benefit from the ray-tracing abilities of an RTX.
My perspective is, that in 2019 RTX is not worth the price increase. I think people were expecting revolutionary changes but the adoption rate will be a more measured and slower. I think nvidia did everyone a great service in pushing this forward but we'll not see the fruits of that effort for another year or even two. While inventories for GTX based laptops maybe shrinking they represent a better buy imo. As for desktops, that situation is a bit different as its still fairly easy to get GTX class GPUs
Great video - Dave2D was the first to bring attention to the GTX cards being a much better value. Linustechtips goes more in-depth and explains why in technical terms. A great description of both channels and an example of two successful YouTube channels saying the same thing in their own unique way.
Dave2D - Linustechtips - Mobiletechreview. The perfect trifecta.
The whole situation with RTX reminds me of the mid 90's when first 3D cards started to appear, 3D Virge, Ati Rage etc. They were pretty useless and CPU alone was quite capable of outmatching them, if the game even supported them from the driver perspective. It all changed a year or two later with 3dfx and I'm sure ray tracing will get adopted on a large scale also. But yeah, at this point GTX offers better value.
But on the other hand, when I was I kid, I remember talking to my friend who was a coder on Amiga demoscene, right after I waited 24 hrs for a low-res raytracing render of a single frame with maybe 4 or 5 lightsources on A1200, that one day we will have real time ray tracing. At that point it seemed almost impossible, but we have it now, which is pretty cool in my book.
But on the other hand, when I was I kid, I remember talking to my friend who was a coder on Amiga demoscene, right after I waited 24 hrs for a low-res raytracing render of a single frame with maybe 4 or 5 lightsources on A1200, that one day we will have real time ray tracing. At that point it seemed almost impossible, but we have it now, which is pretty cool in my book.