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iPhone 16 Pro Don't buy wifi7 router
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The older wifi-6 (AX) compatible iPhones/iPads do not support 160mHz bandwidt. Some AX routers support 160 mHz on the 5 gHz band, like mine Asus GT-AX6000 router.
First line is an iPhone SE 2022, second line is an iPad Pro M1 and the third line is a second AX Asus router used in wireless media-bridge mode.
First line is an iPhone SE 2022, second line is an iPad Pro M1 and the third line is a second AX Asus router used in wireless media-bridge mode.
Yup older doesn't but the iPhone 15 Pro does support it despite the apple article saying it supports a maximum of 80mhz on 5ghz unless they don't recommend u run it on the 160mhz.
Note I'm not trying to say the iPhone 16 could possibly support 320mhz because it probably doesn't
Something to be aware of is that a doubling of bandwidt, say 160mHz to 320mHz will take a 3dB hit on both rx and tx. A total of 6dB. This means weaker signal range.
It's in the Asus Router Web-GUI settings.
Advanced Settings > System Log > Wireless Log> scroll down to bottom to view
Stations List.
I have a full Wifi7 network at home (with 2.5GbE links to the APs, switch and 10GbE to the modem) and definitely noticed that the 16PM couldn't download any faster than my MBP that has 6E. Bit disappointed but it is what it is.
Given that the specs only state 160 and not 320mhz, this seems to be working as intended and I wouldn’t expect updates to fix anything as there is nothing to fix.
I'm also disappointed by the marginal speed increase, but also... it's a phone. Doesn't matter as much to me as a laptop or tablet.
I've been looking forward to Apple releasing WiFi 7 laptops since I recently upgraded to a 10Gbps line at home. Really hoping they don't gimp that hardware like they did these phones.
I've been looking forward to Apple releasing WiFi 7 laptops since I recently upgraded to a 10Gbps line at home. Really hoping they don't gimp that hardware like they did these phones.
Yes, as called out here, iPhone 16 has MLO support. But that is limited by 160Mhz.
Apple gave us a Ferrari but put Toyota Prius skinny tires on it.
Hi folks, I have good news. After the past couple of months of feeling cheated by Apple for misrepresenting and miscommunicating the Wi-Fi 7 specs of the iPhone 16 series right off the bat when they launched the iPhone 16 series, and motivating many like me to upgrade to iPhone 16 Pro Max from the iPhone 15 Pro Max, and then belatedly knowing about Apple’s capping of the Wi-Fi 7 channel bandwidth at 160MHz, I thought of a way to find out whether the issue is a hardware or a software one, because as we know, if the issue is a hardware one, no software update can resolve it.
1. Comparing the WiFi + Bluetooth specs of the iPhone 15 and iPhone 16 Pro Max (Apple publicly specifies these):
iPhone 15 Pro Max: Wi-Fi 6E and Bluetooth 5.3
iPhone 16 Pro Max: Wi-Fi 7 and Bluetooth 5.3
2. Guesstimating which Qualcomm® WiFi + Bluetooth + 5G chipset is on the iPhones (unofficially it is known that Apple uses Qualcomm® chipsets for WiFi + Bluetooth + 5G, till it can officially releases its own):
iPhone 15 Pro Max: Wi‑Fi 6E (802.11ax) with 2x2 MIMO and Bluetooth 5.3 -> Qualcomm® SNAPDRAGON® 8+ GEN 1 with X65 modem and FastConnect™ 6900, providing max. Channel Bandwidth of 160MHz (see Channel Bandwidth spec at https://tinyurl.com/3f6382yt)
iPhone 16 Pro Max: Wi‑Fi 7 (802.11be) with 2x2 MIMO and Bluetooth 5.3 -> Qualcomm® SNAPDRAGON® 8 GEN 2 with X70 modem and FastConnect™ 7800, providing max. Channel Bandwidth of 320MHz (see Channel Bandwidth spec at https://tinyurl.com/3cck5m82)
Conclusion: Apple’s capping of the Wi-Fi 7 channel bandwidth at 160MHz is a software one. Let’s rejoice, folks. We can hope for a software update soon, and if we want to really make it happen, we should start demanding it, because they owe it to us. If their reason for capping off the channel bandwidth is performance, shouldn’t we be the ones to decide what channel bandwidth we want to use?! We can always configure our Wi-Fi 7 routers for that. Apple should leave it to us, not decide for us. We have paid good money to use the specs that iPhones come with.
1. Comparing the WiFi + Bluetooth specs of the iPhone 15 and iPhone 16 Pro Max (Apple publicly specifies these):
iPhone 15 Pro Max: Wi-Fi 6E and Bluetooth 5.3
iPhone 16 Pro Max: Wi-Fi 7 and Bluetooth 5.3
2. Guesstimating which Qualcomm® WiFi + Bluetooth + 5G chipset is on the iPhones (unofficially it is known that Apple uses Qualcomm® chipsets for WiFi + Bluetooth + 5G, till it can officially releases its own):
iPhone 15 Pro Max: Wi‑Fi 6E (802.11ax) with 2x2 MIMO and Bluetooth 5.3 -> Qualcomm® SNAPDRAGON® 8+ GEN 1 with X65 modem and FastConnect™ 6900, providing max. Channel Bandwidth of 160MHz (see Channel Bandwidth spec at https://tinyurl.com/3f6382yt)
iPhone 16 Pro Max: Wi‑Fi 7 (802.11be) with 2x2 MIMO and Bluetooth 5.3 -> Qualcomm® SNAPDRAGON® 8 GEN 2 with X70 modem and FastConnect™ 7800, providing max. Channel Bandwidth of 320MHz (see Channel Bandwidth spec at https://tinyurl.com/3cck5m82)
Conclusion: Apple’s capping of the Wi-Fi 7 channel bandwidth at 160MHz is a software one. Let’s rejoice, folks. We can hope for a software update soon, and if we want to really make it happen, we should start demanding it, because they owe it to us. If their reason for capping off the channel bandwidth is performance, shouldn’t we be the ones to decide what channel bandwidth we want to use?! We can always configure our Wi-Fi 7 routers for that. Apple should leave it to us, not decide for us. We have paid good money to use the specs that iPhones come with.