Don't try bootcamp if you don't want to risk your total mac!

[jmsait19]

Did you really read the link? I'm not the only one. I didn't even start the discussion of the link.

But hey... the comparrission with the tire was just for my mac ofcourse (and my feeling after trying to get some help with it), not for all 1000's with bootcamp installed.

But still: the message was just a warning for other people thinking what should i do. It's not something obligated, it's just an advise and it's the same advise all shops over here already gave: don't try bootcamp. Just wait or use parallels. If something goes wrong: you are on your own (+the forums of course).

Reformatting is nice ofcourse... if a DVD could boot. You can't assume we all have external drives etc.
For real: i did not care about data loss or so on my disc... as long as the system came up again.

When I read your post's in my head it sounds like you are fairly hyped up about this and there is a lot of yelling.

I think you should chillax, then go back and re-read this thread. Upon re-reading you will realize that this is not a global problem across the board, but rather a local problem caused by the individual and/or their equipment. Then I suggest you stop trying to propogate false information such as 'boot camp will destroy your computer' or whatever you are saying. If you keep going though, you will forever tarnish your rep. on these boards, and you may as well find a new place to post this filth.

 

[bousozoku]

moral of the story? dont install windows

No, it isn't. If that's the case, why would Apple be advocating installing Parallels and Windows?

It's too bad that people lose data but that's the danger of using unfinished software. If you go into the situation knowing that and you proceed and then, you cry foul, you're on your own.

 

[Miguel0019]

Just as a warning I want you to consider this problem:

After installing bootcamp for XP (that runs perfect) you can not return to OS X. Your OS-X DVD will not restore OS-X and Apple will not help you...

Read more on: http://discussions.apple.com/thread.jspa?threadID=432603

The apple store where i'm shopping already advises: use parallels, not bootcamp (to many bugs still that can end your macbook os-x life).



p.s. And yes: we all just followed the manual!

Ok help me with this Why in the world would anybody, want to run windonws on OS X WHY!!!!

 

[Natsus]

Ok help me with this Why in the world would anybody, want to run windonws on OS X WHY!!!!

games and other windows specific apps not found on osx

Just as a warning I want you to consider this problem:

After installing bootcamp for XP (that runs perfect) you can not return to OS X. Your OS-X DVD will not restore OS-X and Apple will not help you...

Read more on: http://discussions.apple.com/thread....hreadID=432603

The apple store where i'm shopping already advises: use parallels, not bootcamp (to many bugs still that can end your macbook os-x life).

See this is the problem with that statement. I, and many other people are able to return to OSX, are able to boot our OSX DVD. You make it sound like it doesn't work for anyone. That's not the case. I'm not quite sure why it's not working for you, but making a general statement that it won't work for anyone is silly.

 

[aristobrat]

If your MacBook won't boot (or succesfully run) the OS X Install DVD when you hold down the C key after restarting it, then your MacBook has much larger problems (i.e. flakey optical drive).

Regardless of how many people have the same problem as you, Boot Camp does nothing to the firmware to prevent you from booting back off your Install DVD.

 

[CallMeTheArrow]

No problems here

Been working fine for me, both XP as well as Mac OS X 10.4.7 (same result with 10.4.6) on Intel-based Mac Mini.

 

[bousozoku]

If your MacBook won't boot (or succesfully run) the OS X Install DVD when you hold down the C key after restarting it, then your MacBook has much larger problems (i.e. flakey optical drive).

Regardless of how many people have the same problem as you, Boot Camp does nothing to the firmware to prevent you from booting back off your Install DVD.

If you don't update the firmware before you install Boot Camp, could that cause the problem? I wonder. There obviously aren't any good shortcuts.

 

[RollTide]

Don't worry about it. The percentage of people who screw up their computers are a very very small group but they are apparently very vocal. Follow the instructions to the T and come here first if you have any problems and you will be OK.

And their computers are not lost forever. They just don't know enough how to fix it. If they come here, we can get it fixed. I hosed my setup after installing Vista (wiped the disk clean after installing Vista and then couldn't reinstall Mac OS X) but with a little research it was back up as good as new sans Vista.

People need to complain less and work more.

Bingo, when microsoft screwed me over by not including a COA, the guys on the forums were quick to help. This place is a great resource.

 

[RollTide]

If you don't update the firmware before you install Boot Camp, could that cause the problem? I wonder. There obviously aren't any good shortcuts.

The install is not allowed unless you have the firmware updated. In some cases you have to go to the apple site to find these, as they don't show up on the software updater. So after its all said and sone, I installed 2 firmware updates, both did different things. hmmm I dunno.

 

[AvA2345]

help!

hello i installed xp on my mac and when i try to install the drivers, a message comes up saying "files needed" i press cancel and it sits there for a minute and then says fatal error, and then says the wizard stopped the installer so not all drivers were loaded. can someone please help me? email me at stephenthanshaw@mac.com

 

[Hugh]

non booting DVD?

What happened when you tried to boot off your Install DVD? You where using Disk 1 and holding down the the option key down right? Boot camp can't stop you from booting from the internal drive, it can mess up your Mac OS X partion. But I don't see how it can not allow you to boot from your internal drive. It's very possible that there is something wrong with your computer.

I've installed Boot camp and had no problems...

Hugh

Did you really read the link? I'm not the only one. I didn't even start the discussion of the link.

But hey... the comparrission with the tire was just for my mac ofcourse (and my feeling after trying to get some help with it), not for all 1000's with bootcamp installed.

But still: the message was just a warning for other people thinking what should i do. It's not something obligated, it's just an advise and it's the same advise all shops over here already gave: don't try bootcamp. Just wait or use parallels. If something goes wrong: you are on your own (+the forums of course).

Reformatting is nice ofcourse... if a DVD could boot. You can't assume we all have external drives etc.
For real: i did not care about data loss or so on my disc... as long as the system came up again.

 

[ezekielrage_99]

moral of the story? dont install windows

I said the same thing when the whole prospect of running Windows on an Apple first came up. Windows is agressive in any dual boot system but I am suprised there aren't more problems.

 

[ammon]

Does anyone know if this same problem exists on the new iMacs?

A friend of mine wanted me to install Windows on his, but I'm kind of sceptical now...

 

[aristobrat]

Does anyone know if this same problem exists on the new iMacs?

A friend of mine wanted me to install Windows on his, but I'm kind of sceptical now...

I wouldn't be. Boot Camp works for just about everybody.

 

[sushi]

I'm not exactly a computer guru

No offense, but why in heck would you even try doing this?

Boot Camp is Beta. Apple does not support Windows installation. So why on Earth would you try this if you are a n00b? Makes no sense to me.

As far as Boot Camp working, it works well based on my experience with 17 and 20 inch iMacs. Installed it around 8-10 times with no problems whatsoever.

 

[warheart]

very simple!

If your not booting off your CD/DVD you should get the firmware restore... which you were supposed to make a cd of when you did bootcamp! If it's not a firmware issue and your getting kernal panics you have a hardware issue!...It's not bootcamp... It's hardware. And bootcamp can't destroy your hardware. So if your not a Apple Tech don't try to act like one. Bootcamp is beta so they can get testors for free. Secondly when it is official it just means that your drivers will see constant updates. I have run bootcamp on over 15 machines. No problems. If you cant boot off your restore discs and you get kernal panics you most likey have a harware issue and it became apparent when you tried bootcamp.

 

[keithbennis]

Regardless of everyone sayiing to avoid it... I want Windows just to play games...... as lame as that sounds.

 

[Natsus]

Regardless of everyone sayiing to avoid it... I want Windows just to play games...... as lame as that sounds.

everyone is not saying to avoid it. only those that messed up their mac somehow. There are many many many people who got it to work and it's not inrecoverable for those that didn't. Those that said it is just don't know how to recover it. (I don't either, but I remember reading about people being able to recover their Macs)

No that doesn't sound lame. I bet most people that has bootcamp for the sole purpose of games.

 

[Bern]

Actually I have XP installed because some of the software I use has not been released as universal binary, like Painter IX.5 and Studio 8. They run like a dog under Rosetta, so because they are dual installation it seemed logical to me to install them in XP where I could use them with their full potential. I have no games.

 

[ITASOR]

Dude if you install Windows on your MacBook and you can't install OS X again, isn't the worst thing that can happen is you take the HD out, chuck it in an enclosure, use another computer to reformat it, put it back in the MacBook and reinstall?

 

[Natsus]

Actually I have XP installed because some of the software I use has not been released as universal binary, like Painter IX.5 and Studio 8. They run like a dog under Rosetta, so because they are dual installation it seemed logical to me to install them in XP where I could use them with their full potential. I have no games.

that's why I said most

 

[beeker]

Im having a problem getting boot camp to start. I went to Apple/support and selected the latest firmware update for iMac, but it tells me that my computer does not need it. Then when i go to open boot camp, it says i need the latest firmware. Any help? Be gentle, im gonna admit that im a new mac user.

 

[slooksterPSV]

My 2¢

Bootcamp is BETA! It won't work perfectly for everyone.

There I said it. Phew...

 

[aristobrat]

My 2¢

Bootcamp is BETA! It won't work perfectly for everyone.

There I said it. Phew...

I agree with you. I can see it screwing up when it goes to repartition your drive, or not burning the Windows driver CD correctly, but I can not think of a single way that it would hose your Mac so bad that you couldn't reboot off of the restore DVD and reinstall OS X (repartitioning the drive if necessary).

I think the OP either has a flakey restore DVD or a DVD drive in his Mac that's on its way out. I've experienced the exact same problems he's having on Windows machines before under those conditions.

 

[j0d4h]

"NO BETA program up till now (not even from microsoft) made my computer do nothing at all. "

you dont think this may have something to do with the fact that BootCamp is a low-order boot control system which essentially overrides the standard boot setup for your system? that grants it a great deal more control over your system functionality than a high-order surface app like Skype or Firefox, which have little or no control whatsoever over your system's hardware, firmware, etc. by far most apps are high-order apps running within the confines of your operating system, which inherently means that by far most beta apps are high-order apps with very little possibility of causing a serious problem. do you think a Skype beta failing to process a command is going to cause a cascade system failure or corrupt your system partition?

Darwinism exists for a reason. theres an onslaught of disclaimers and warnings from the moment you mention this software, and the installer does the same. if someone is stupid enough (yes, stupid) to install a beta setup like BootCamp without the know-how to fix whatever may go wrong or at least the presence of mind to back up their data then its their own fault. if you have even a basic grasp of reality you'll realize that.