Don't you think the new menu bar is way too thick and ugly?

[UltimateSyn]

I went for 'I love it'. I think it has more room to breathe now. I like UI elements with ample spacing.

 

[Tagbert]

I have been wondering the same thing. If they had to make the menu bar larger to fit the size of the notch, I would have thought they would have made it exactly the same height. It appears though that the menu bar is even larger than the notch, which seems so odd to me. I honestly think that makes it even worse.

There are subtleties in graphic design that are not obvious until you have studied it. In this case making the menubar the exact height of the notch has a couple of problems.

• It would make the notch look bigger. making the menu taller by a few pixels makes the notch look a little smaller. There is a visual effect call the tangent problem.
• If you have a line intersect a curve it can cause visual distortions that make them look mismatched and a little off. Its best to separate them by a few pixels to resolve that tension.

Visual design is actually a little more in depth and rigorous than many people realize.

 

[zarathu]

Ugly? The screen is enlarged, and the notch is in the menu bar that you can’t use for screen space. If it bothers you that much, DL the little app that turns the menu bar black with white lettering, and then it becomes invisible.

 

[AdonisSMU]

No doesn't bother me. I think it looks better tbqh... *shrug*

 

[Tagbert]

Eh, I'm not so sure. I honestly don't think Touchscreen functionality is going to work in a desktop-type computer. It works on iPhones and iPads because those devices are able to be oriented and operated parallel to the ground plane - ie, laying flat. That means that all the operative manipulation occurs with the arms and hands in what is mostly a resting state of being.

However, touchscreens oriented perpendicular to the ground plane, as a computer screen would be, means that your arm has to be held aloft by itself. Easy enough when you only have to tap the screen a few times. But try holding and moving your arm around a screen for just ten minutes. It gets tiring! No, I don't think touch capability is coming to Macs anytime soon, and even should it do so, I don't really think it'll be anything more than a gimmick - I strongly state my belief that it will be as well received as the TouchBar...ie, lukewarm at best and largely ignored by devs.

If touch were brought to Macs, it's not really likely that anyone would use touch exclusively. It would become part of a multi-modal control system along with keyboard, touchpad, and mouse. I use an iPad Pro most often in a keyboard case with a mouse. It is sitting vertically. I use a combination of touch, mouse and keyboard depending on the action and on what seems appropriate at the time. Sometimes you click with a mouse, sometimes a finger tap is more direct. Scrolling may be done by touching the screen or with the mouse scroll wheel. Keyboard shortcuts are part of the mix. If something needs to be moved on screen, touch is often the best method. Touch can be more engaging and direct but less precise; sometimes you want quick and direct, other times you want precision. We have a lot of users who are used to touching their devices to interact with them, it would not be foreign to them to touch their Macs. In fact it is frustrating when they can't.

 

[Gherkin]

People are so dramatic lol.

It's barely different. Plus you can black it out if you hate it so much.

 

[JMacHack]

I’m not a conspiracy minded individual, but there seems to be an awful lot of “I’m returning my MacBook Pro because games/ugly/etc” right now…

 

[jonnysods]

It does seem very high, and the text and icons look out of place. Mine doesn't come for another 6 days... I just want check this thing out in person!

 

[vir]

We want unquestioning love.

 

[Grohowiak]

At first I was like WTF but the more I think about it the more I love it.
Extra space = extra space and it is all that matters.

I don't stare at my screen to seduce it.

 

[8CoreWhore]

Here's the thing.... theres a difference between looking at a photo of the laptop and staring/obsessing at the menu bar/notch, Vs actually using the laptop for things you need to do while focusing on the important content on the screen. The new menu bar gives us more real estate for the important stuff.

 

[petvas]

To be honest, I have been using my new 14" MBP for three hours now and I haven't even noticed the thicker menu bar. Even the notch is not a problem. This is really a great laptop and I am loving it more and more by the minute I use it.

 

[lordhamster]

Just setting up my 14 inch... honestly can't say I paid any attention to the menu bar. Honestly, I feel like I'm better off because the menu bar is now scooched up to the previously unused bezel space... ultimately giving me more screen real-estate.

 

[junkw]

can't wait for the Apple Car with a black notch on the windshield for the mirror