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DoubleTwist Launches iTunes-Like Desktop Application for Amazon MP3 Store
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Design to Apple's specs, but is Apple saying use our color theme? And they have to design to look like the finder or not? If they are because that is the way Apple wants it, it kind of makes Apple's previous lawsuits against computer makers that "mimic" Apple's hardware design kind of mute!
Just drag and drop music to your phone, and apparently it has never been easier...
Yeah, I can think of a few times it has been easier.
Good job making the Amazon store look better though.
Yeah, I can think of a few times it has been easier.
Good job making the Amazon store look better though.
I haven't done any sort of in-depth comparison, but while I'm fairly sure he isn't infringing on trademarks, in his efforts to mimic the iTunes look and feel, it's possible he may have run into trade dress issues. (I don't have the expertise to say one way or the other for sure, but it's a risk when you try to mimic something exactly.)
Agreed on all points.
Macrumors is apparently brimming with lawyers as well now. Anything that looks the remotest bit like Apple's work is lawsuit worthy. It amazes me that despite guarantees by the sea of Macrumors lawyers, the Palm Pre did manage to be released.
That being said, I like this piece of software for the Amazon integration (which I use), but I think it'll need a few more updates (podcasts would be nice) before I jump in.
<The horror!>
Until then I will continue to sync my Pre with iTunes.
</The horror!>
Yeah, SoundJam and iTunes look nothing alike.
(And this is using the 2009 version of iTunes for comparison - it was even closer to SoundJam when it was first released in '01.)
(And this is using the 2009 version of iTunes for comparison - it was even closer to SoundJam when it was first released in '01.)
That... and they paid for it + gave the developers full-time jobs...
But we'll forget that part
Meh DVD Jon's just a good publicist... he wasn't even the 1st guy to crack the DVD code, he just went public and said "ooooh I cracked a DVD!" But he didn't...
He's a clown and a publicist... seems to be making a buck out of it too... so good on him I guess? I'll never use Doubletwist...
He's a clown and a publicist... seems to be making a buck out of it too... so good on him I guess? I'll never use Doubletwist...
Stolen? Ha!
You could give Soviet censors a run for their money.
Apple didn't steal anything. Apple bought Sound Jam and turned it into iTunes.
Love the way you tell a story you douche.
Well I could care less if they used the default GUI elements and didn't customize them. From what I've read they didn't copy iTunes but used the standard XCODE elements.
Besides that if it can help me sync playlists with my Pre so I don't have to wait for Apple to break syncing again I'll use it.
Besides that if it can help me sync playlists with my Pre so I don't have to wait for Apple to break syncing again I'll use it.
Are you high? You are comparing the mini mode of iTunes with Sound Jam.Yeah, SoundJam and iTunes look nothing alike.
(And this is using the 2009 version of iTunes for comparison - it was even closer to SoundJam when it was first released in '01.)
Winamp has a separate song list window, sound jam has a separate song list window. iTunes does not.
Yeah, but PathFinder looks simialir to Finder in some respect. The sidebar for example and you don't see Apple suing Cocoatech.
Didn't Apple try before with Microsoft in the look and feel aspect? That didn't turn out too well.
I smell a lawsuit...
At first I thought the same thing but I doubt that Apple will really care. Still, it amazes me how technology all comes back to “how can we copy Apple and still be considered innovators”. Really, I couldn’t care less who has the better mousetrap, it’s just depressing that so many companies are this lazy, especially MS MicroCopy.
Regards,
How could I be so silly! Apple clearly took a similar looking play window, a similar looking playlist window and a similar looking equalizer and combined them into a single window, thus making all the other similarities moot.
Oh, and they touched up that single window with the same brushed metal look C&G had introduced in the SoundJam software previously - but that makes no difference whatsoever, right?
Yeah, I'm the high one.
I have no problem with Apple taking the interface bit for bit if they wanted because they bought it, but anyone who thinks iTunes didn't borrow heavily from the SoundJam interface is just crazy - not only because they look really similar, but also because as those same people are saying, Apple bought the product and engineers - what else would it look like?
What would really drive the point home would be to also include screen shots of products such as Audion into the mix so you could see how different to those SoundJam and iTunes were and how alike to one another they felt. As a huge SoundJam fan and a hater of Audion's interface, I was thrilled when Apple's discussions with Audion fell through and they instead built their MP3 player upon C&G's product, so trust me when I say the two looked (and acted) a lot alike.
Keep this in mind when bashing Apple about SoundJam.
Apple legally purchased Soundjam and their IP. They then proceeded to re-design the look and way it worked. All done legally while at the same time hiring the developers of Soundjam. That is done in the IT world all the time.
Now what DoubleTwist did was basically really steal the look of iTunes. They didnt purchase any company or hire any developers that designed a previous media player. They flat out copied the idea. Without buying any company or hiring that companies employees..
That is the difference between a company doing legitimate business and a company that just decided to rip off the look of another companies design.
Apple legally purchased Soundjam and their IP. They then proceeded to re-design the look and way it worked. All done legally while at the same time hiring the developers of Soundjam. That is done in the IT world all the time.
Now what DoubleTwist did was basically really steal the look of iTunes. They didnt purchase any company or hire any developers that designed a previous media player. They flat out copied the idea. Without buying any company or hiring that companies employees..
That is the difference between a company doing legitimate business and a company that just decided to rip off the look of another companies design.
It surprises me how many people take one look at a screen shot and use that as a base for their opinion - never judge a book by its cover, as they say.
There are different ways to woo customers away from an existing product (not forgetting the overhead that iTunes comes installed on every Mac) - offer a different way of doing things or offer to do something different.
If the interface was radically different, everyone would be up in arms about how the software doesn't fit with Mac UI guidelines. Secondly, it would add additional overhead when they want to transition users as easily as possible (how many cars do you see with a different set of controls? Half the people here complaining about a copied interface probably thing it is a good idea to change the clutch-brake-accelerator pedal ordering
)What these guys have done is add additional functionality and develop a media management system that supports multiple devices from multiple manufacturers and incorporates a store. This is something Apple clearly lack the skill or foresight to do.
Don't use DoubleTwist if you don't like it, but don't knock the genuine advantages it brings the customers, and those who want the choice it affords. I am glad that I have an option when it comes to music player and phone choice AND can still use a Mac with minimal worries about compatibility, something Apple are happy to let slip (Macs "just work"? Not for some time, sadly).
I really don't get it.
Palm emulate an iPod for iTunes syncing:
They are evil and should develop their own app.
Someone develops an app that can sync to the pre (as well as many devices):
WTF is the point? Inferior phone. They copy iTunes. iTunes is the best!
Is anyone ever happy on these forums?
On DoubleTwist:
I'm just wiping my HTC Hero SD card to try this out. Looks good.
Palm emulate an iPod for iTunes syncing:
They are evil and should develop their own app.
Someone develops an app that can sync to the pre (as well as many devices):
WTF is the point? Inferior phone. They copy iTunes. iTunes is the best!
Is anyone ever happy on these forums?
On DoubleTwist:
I'm just wiping my HTC Hero SD card to try this out. Looks good.
Is anyone ever happy on these forums?
Nope.
Palm: Make iTunes work with Pre. Stealing from Apple (Against Apple)
DoubleTwist: Manage music with other phone. Stealing from Apple (Against Apple)
It does not matter. If you do something against Apple they will complain.
Which apparently could be coming: http://www.appleinsider.com/article...s_extending_zune_services_to_apple_users.html
Good news for Palm Pre!
This must be a good news for Palm Pre since they cannot make their very own synching application for their device. They could have just hired DVD Jon and replace all their programmers and name it Palm Twist. This program should stop Palm annoying Apple now.
This must be a good news for Palm Pre since they cannot make their very own synching application for their device. They could have just hired DVD Jon and replace all their programmers and name it Palm Twist. This program should stop Palm annoying Apple now.
This thread is full of brainwashed apple zealots. Only one person read my original comment and agree (well, at least one).
Its so sad to see a lack of logic from mac users. Makes me embarrassed to even own a mac myself.
Its so sad to see a lack of logic from mac users. Makes me embarrassed to even own a mac myself.
Back in 1984 Apple was leading the way with something new and innovative, not just a cloned DOS machine.
This new app is just a clone of iTunes, nothing new, nothing innovative. They have a cheek to copy Apple's ad, not to mention iTunes.
This new app is just a clone of iTunes, nothing new, nothing innovative. They have a cheek to copy Apple's ad, not to mention iTunes.
Just updated DoubleTwist last night and had a go at it this morning with my iAudio i5 (which doesnt require software like iTunes, suckazz).
It fixed the whole folder creation problem. Mp3s are now sent to the device into subfolders and are neatly organized.
Looks like I now have an official iTunes replacement for media management with my mp3 players. One step closer to ditching itunes completely, now waiting for Vox to update itself as well. Good riddance bloated software
DT needs to fix the music keys
the play/stop buttons are left to be desired
other than that i love it as it allows for a crap load of devices to sync with
the play/stop buttons are left to be desired
other than that i love it as it allows for a crap load of devices to sync with