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Sooooo... PC demo is out. No Mac demo...?

Inital reports are mixed. Sounds like sure enough it's gone "cinematic"/Mass Effecty - combat is more action oriented, less strategy.

Sigh.
 
since they are releasing a hybrid disc, you'd think a demo would be doable. oh well. bootcamp time.

if i can drag myself away from sc2
 
Maybe Steam has a blanket "no Cider ports" policy that we're not aware of.

I really really hope they do have such a policy, Native applications only please.
Its why ill buy MAC games from steam but not from the MAC app store. Cider/Winskin/wrapper ports are just shoddy, selling us the PC version, with a cheap wrapper and then adding a %premium to the price.

I fell foul of the MAC Dragon Age Origins, wasted my money on an unplayable copy of the game, bought the PC version and playing that under boot camp is fine. (Mac Version, barely playable on low settings on Nvidia 8600m GT 512mb, under windows, playable on high settings), scary thing is, under parallels the PC version runs better than the MAC cider port this is just sloppy !!!

Blizzard and valve have proven that you don't need wrappers to bring games to the MAC, we (the MAC game buying public) should not pay for wrappered ports anymore.
 
I really really hope they do have such a policy, Native applications only please.

They don't, there are cider games on steam.

Its why ill buy MAC games from steam but not from the MAC app store.
What cider ports are you referring to? The mac games that I am aware of on the app store are all native (Aspyr's and Feral's.)

I think it's best to evaluate a game based on its speed an not on the tech used. There are some good cider ports as well as bad native ones.
 
you guys are funny. what's native port anyway nowadays for PC, mac? there is no native anymore. it's all about console port. they don't make PC or mac only port anymore. what is it? back in 2003?
 
I didn't realize Starcraft II, all of Valve's games, Civilization V, and many more were ported from console to PC. Thanks for illuminating me, archurban. :rolleyes:
 
you guys are funny. what's native port anyway nowadays for PC, mac? there is no native anymore. it's all about console port. they don't make PC or mac only port anymore. what is it? back in 2003?

A "native" port is a game that has been written to run natively under OS X. A native port can also be a console port.
 
since they are releasing a hybrid disc, you'd think a demo would be doable. oh well. bootcamp time.

I imagine it has something to do with licensing issues? From a technical standpoint it couldn't possibly be that difficult I would guess.

In any case we should get enough information from PC users about the demo, including YouTube videos and so forth, that can serve as a preview of sorts for us.

Looking forward to it despite my concerns.

-PN
 
I imagine it has something to do with licensing issues? From a technical standpoint it couldn't possibly be that difficult I would guess.

They'd still have to pay Transgaming to do it. Guess they didn't think it was worth the expense. :rolleyes:
 
I was starting to get excited about this game until I found out its a cider port :[ I don't want to spend $50+ on a non native game. Why can't they just take the time to do a native game?
 
Someone please explain to me why all these type of threads exist...

In other words, why does anyone care if this game or that game is released for mac? Why don't you just bootcamp windows? I don't get it. Windows runs games better anyway, so why even bother? The whole beauty of the Intel Mac is that you can dual boot. Hell thats the whole reason I started buying macs.

I have a few standby PC games and up until last week, a decent gaming/play laptop (Asus G71G-Q) which finally kicked the bucket and is going back to Asus.

I've been thinking about a MacBook Pro (would be my first, but typing this on my iPad) for a while now....mostly for some Mac Only Music I/O Apogee hardware I've been craving.

I'll need to Bootcamp probably due to not wanting to lose those Microsoft only games, outside of the rebooting, is it a pain?

Thinking of going SSD (either Mac or replacing on my own but no idea if the software restore would be tough) to minimize boot times.

I so wish the new ones had the rumored "stock" SSD drive for Mac OS.

Thinking about going with a new MBP
 
I'll need to Bootcamp probably due to not wanting to lose those Microsoft only games, outside of the rebooting, is it a pain?

It's really only a few extra steps to installing Windows on a fresh computer. You run the Bootcamp assistant in Mac OS which will walk you through partitioning your hard drive to allocate space for Windows, load up the Windows installation disk, reboot and then Windows installs.

After Windows installs, you load up the Snow Leopard install disc and run the Bootcamp Assistant setup from within Windows to install the necessary drivers and software. After that, run the Bootcamp Assistant software in Windows and go to the tab to select your default bootup OS, Mac or Windows.

From then on you only need to hold down the Alt button, during bootup after the grey screen shows and the gong-like sound plays, to pick which OS you want to boot, other than the default OS you chose. You can also go to ATI's website (assuming you get a 2011 Mac) and get updated drivers for your GPU, since the Snow Leopard ones may be outdated.

The only pain I know if you're trying to install Windows itself and you get the error message saying there isn't enough continuous free space, because you've been using the Mac OS a while and files are all over your hard drive. The message is telling you to defrag your hard drive, but Mac OS doesn't have a manual defrag tool, because the file system doesn't benefit from it. You'd have to get a third-party app, if that were the case.

either Mac or replacing on my own but no idea if the software restore would be tough

As for software restore, is if you're using Time Machine now for your backups, just load up the Snow Leopard installation disc on your new Mac, reboot, and do a Migration not Restore. Plug in your external hard drive with the Time Machine backup and choose that as the source for Migrating. Depending on how much data there is, in a few hours or longer, you'll have all your apps, documents, mail, etc loaded up on your new machine with your same username and whatnot.
 
I was starting to get excited about this game until I found out its a cider port :[ I don't want to spend $50+ on a non native game. Why can't they just take the time to do a native game?

Would you rather have a crappy native port? *shudders at thought of Aspyr butchering another Bioware game KOTOR-style*

It's not ideal, but it's a heck of a lot better than nothing.
 
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