But since it’s all UDM with built-in controller, they all have their own sites.
I think you can’t manage, for example, another USG. This USG must have its own Cloud Key (Controller) to be able to manage it in you UDM-pro ?
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I think you can’t manage, for example, another USG. This USG must have its own Cloud Key (Controller) to be able to manage it in you UDM-pro ?
Yes and No. In a way.
Previously, say with CloudKey2. You have a single controller. (CloudKeyHardware)
On that controller you have the UniFi (software)
Within the software, you could have multiple sites or locations.
At each site you would have seperate USG (hardware router)
I used to do this an ran 6 locations on a single CloudKey then to CloudKey Gen2+.
Now. A UDM or UDM-Pro is a controller, software, single site managed on a single device.
Also now. UniFi Portal.
Allows managing multiple UDM's from a single sign-on website.
My difference previously, you log in to UniFi and from a drop down, you swap locations or "sites" from the drop down.
All Sites would also be on a single software version number.
My issue was if that controller went offline, all sites were offline.
Currently UniFi Portal will list each UDM.
Clicking on that UDM gives access to that particular UDM's hardware settings.
Then each UDM has UniFi with single-site that it manages.
For myself, the good thing is. With having 6 locations. I can have each one set independantly.
Different UDM software, different UniFi software per location.
The drawback, if any, since using this new system is if I am in my personal network, I click a big U in the upper left corner, it takes me back to the list of sites and I go in to another site from that rather than click the Sites dropdown menu on a single page.
There are pluses and negatives per both and both have their usage scenario. Just for me, the newer current system works a little better for me.
One of the main reasons I was looking for a USG replacement was throughput with IDS/IPS enabled. Which drops your total throughput to around 85Mbps.
Which I ran at all office locations. So paying for speedy 500Meg to Gbps internet with 30+ workstations would get bottlenecked down to 85Mbps. And this location had approximately 200 devices daily on 85Mbps.
Now if you had site to site VPN locations envolved you are around 12Mbps of throughput. Which was no bueno.
Swapping in a UDM or UDM-Pro and IPS enabled throughput is back to 850+MBps. With VPN, still well over 300MBps so a 500MBps line works just fine at 50% reduction in cost.
At a business location, AT&T Fiber 1000/1000 is over $650/month with static IP's, closer to 7 and change taxes and fees.
Also having a static IP for the host CloudKey was a major positive.
Received my UDM today. TL;DR; It is fantastic - easy setup, small footprint, & powerful wireless.
Set up was a snap. I have the UniFi app on my iPhone already from a previous site I managed (house I sold with equipment). I'd removed that controller and started a scan for my new UDM which it picked up in a matter of seconds. I plugged it into my Arris modem (I have BlueStream where I live) and was finished setting it up in minutes. I migrated my devices to the new wireless network and turned off the 2.4 & 5 GHz radios on the Arris. Anyone in the market for a new wireless router should absolutely get the UDM. I haven't set up VPN or any VLANs yet, but will likely do that this weekend. Thanks to all that provided feedback on my question - so far, definitely happy I stayed with Ubiquiti.
Set up was a snap. I have the UniFi app on my iPhone already from a previous site I managed (house I sold with equipment). I'd removed that controller and started a scan for my new UDM which it picked up in a matter of seconds. I plugged it into my Arris modem (I have BlueStream where I live) and was finished setting it up in minutes. I migrated my devices to the new wireless network and turned off the 2.4 & 5 GHz radios on the Arris. Anyone in the market for a new wireless router should absolutely get the UDM. I haven't set up VPN or any VLANs yet, but will likely do that this weekend. Thanks to all that provided feedback on my question - so far, definitely happy I stayed with Ubiquiti.
Good news, suggest you try the latest beta firmware, it fixes a lot of the previous bugs reported.
You happen to have a link to download? I'm on 1.5.6.2150 (latest stable).
Edit (9:50 AM): I just posted to the UniFi boards (under the 1.8 beta firmware I was able to locate) and it seems for the UDM, there is no beta. Beta is only for UDM-PRO. At least that's the response I got.
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UI-Glenn just responded to my post with,
"1.8.3 is a new Official release, that will be available eventually for your UDM-US since it's a rolling upgrade.
If you do not want to wait, then you can follow the manual upgrade instructions from the original post."
Should be seeing it soon as an "official" update in the UniFi app. I'll give it some time to show up, if it doesn't I'll look to manually update.
FYI, thread on 1.8.3 being a stable release on UI Community:
Ubiquiti's wifi 6 LITE access point is just released for sale: https://store.ui.com/collections/unifi-network-access-points/products/unifi-ap-6-lite
Received 2xUbiquiti wifi 6 Lite access points yesterday, the speed is about 100 Mbps better on 2 & 5 GHz channels, now just waiting for the arrival of our daughter's iPhone 12 to test wifi on 6 GHz.
Very interesting duscussion which I have enjoyed to follow. 
I have had an Amplifi HD with 3 mesh points for some years now and have been very satisfied with the setup.
Recently I read about the UDM and fell for the performance, firewall and the IDM and VLAN possibilities. I have now bought one second hand. Before I install it I just want to be prepared by purchasing a gigabit switch and an AP. I hope you can guide me to selct which AP and switch to purchase. I don't need many ports so 8 is plenty. I do want the ports to be with PoE but I see that Ubiquiti has several options like an 8-port UniFi switch with PoE passthrough and another UniFi Switch 8 (60W). And when it comes to APs is certainly not easier to choose. Here's the UAP-AC-PRO, the UAP-AC-LR, the UAP-AC-LITE, the UniFi 6 Lite and even more models to choose from. What a jungle.
My house is around 1350 sqf with a basement about half the size and I need to cover it all with wifi. Today I have my Amplifi router placed in the basement and it covers that area fine. On the ground floor I have 3 mesh points, but I hope that 1 or 2 APs will cover this floor.
Any suggestions to which switch and AP to choose?
I have had an Amplifi HD with 3 mesh points for some years now and have been very satisfied with the setup.
Recently I read about the UDM and fell for the performance, firewall and the IDM and VLAN possibilities. I have now bought one second hand. Before I install it I just want to be prepared by purchasing a gigabit switch and an AP. I hope you can guide me to selct which AP and switch to purchase. I don't need many ports so 8 is plenty. I do want the ports to be with PoE but I see that Ubiquiti has several options like an 8-port UniFi switch with PoE passthrough and another UniFi Switch 8 (60W). And when it comes to APs is certainly not easier to choose. Here's the UAP-AC-PRO, the UAP-AC-LR, the UAP-AC-LITE, the UniFi 6 Lite and even more models to choose from. What a jungle.
My house is around 1350 sqf with a basement about half the size and I need to cover it all with wifi. Today I have my Amplifi router placed in the basement and it covers that area fine. On the ground floor I have 3 mesh points, but I hope that 1 or 2 APs will cover this floor.
Any suggestions to which switch and AP to choose?