If Google wants to work on a Push solution they have to call Apple up, simple as that.
Yet you failed to see this....
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If Google wants to work on a Push solution they have to call Apple up, simple as that.
Yet you failed to see this....
Wow. I can't believe it is that hard for you to understand. Calling up Apple does not provide a push solution for GMail.
Google can provide push email without making this mysterious phone call to Apple. All they have to do is support Exchange which seems pretty likely at this point since they have licensed the technology and are already using it. If Google adds exchange support, Apple would then enable exchange as the default option for GMail accounts. However, users do not have to wait on Apple to do anything. Google can enable this and users can start using it today if they wanted.
The notion that some type of phone call to Apple enables all of this is laughable.
Ok I am going to write it down as you seem not to get it....
Google has to call up Apple if they wish to work on their Push solution. If they don't it will never come. Simple as that. No call, no Push support.
Wow, can you not read? Google could enable Exchange support for email today if it was ready and Apple can do nothing to stop it. You get push email support and this magical phone call to Apple hasn't even taken place yet. If you can't understand that, then I do not know why you keep making these statements like you do.
No it wouldn't work that way. Things don't magically push like that. You need to write out the code for it to keep the Push connection live.
Wow. Just...wow. Sure, Gmail could enable Exchange support. But it is entirely possible that they would prefer not to do so (it is rather a resource hog) and use some other solution. I'm sure that Apple would be glad to work with them to help them enable it. Moreover, since most people probably use the default setup tool for Gmail accounts, even if Exchange support were enabled on Google that would not automatically enable push for most users. Apple would still have to update the setup tool to use the exchange server instead of imap or pop3.
Why you are so angry at the idea that Gmail might have to work with Apple to get push enabled is beyond me. But I imagine that, however they chose to do it, it would, as jav6454 said, involve some phone calls from Google to Apple.
Do you really think Google went to all the trouble to add exchange support for contacts and calendar events that they are going to use another push email solution? In the end, they do not want iPhone users to have to have 2 separate accounts to have push calendar/contacts/email.
Anyways, I already said it was possible they could implement a custom push solution. My point is is a phone call to Apple doesn't magically enable push support. Yes, eventually Apple will update their configurator to default to push. However, this will not happen until Google implements push first.
Actually, Exchange servers do magically push, since that is the backbone of the service. Google already has implemented Exchange support that works with the iPhone for contacts and calendar. They do not have to deal with keeping any connections alive. The exchange server they use already implements it. Google has to work on interfacing the gmail interface with the exchange system.
Which is why they have to call Apple up to come up with a solution as I have stated over and over again....
The solution is exchange. I fail to see how you haven't seen that. Apple doesn't need to come up with a solution since the solution already exists. I'm not saying they couldn't use another system. But you seem to imply that Apple is definately creating a 4th push email system just for Google. I have not heard this before and by all accounts Google is moving to the exchange platform for the iPhone. Apple will not be involved in that implementation except to enable it in the email configuration for new accounts.
You can only have one exchange account active. So that means if someone has an Exchange account for work and a personal GMail account, it won't work. So Google still has to call Apple up.
It's not hard to get..... but you seem to fail horribly trying to understand this.
I would be very surprised if Google thought Exchange was the best way to push Gmail. Exchange is a resource-intensive email system, with features primarily aimed at the business customer. You are talking about orders of magnitude difference between the number of people who use Google Calendar and the number who use Gmail, and Google has always been solicitous about the demands on its email servers (consider their insistance that Gmail notifiers check no more often than every 10 minutes).
But, regardless, nobody has implied that any of the things you are saying they implied. You are getting angry for no real reason that I can see.
I would love to see a Gmail app similar to the one in Android. They can use Apple's Push Notification service to send us alerts/badges/sounds whenever we get a new email.
If Google did this, they can add their own features such as threaded messages.
Don't think it would happen though.
If Google did this, they can add their own features such as threaded messages.
Don't think it would happen though.
They already use another one. It's called IMAP IDLE. If you're using Gmail through a Mail app and your using IMAP to sync it then you're already getting push email to your computer. The iPhone doesn't support IMAP IDLE currently.
Now that it is official, I can clearly state that pretty much everything you said was false. Gmail push is using Exchange and required no work on Apple's part.
Again, it was pretty obvious Google was going to use Exchange for Gmail push (seeing as it is now active). They were not going to go through the trouble of enabling exchange support for contacts and calendar and then provide another push solution. That would of require 2 separate accounts. Clearly their goal was to provide a single solution for pushing of contacts, calendar, and gmail to compete with Mobile Me.
Push is now working for Gmail. However I left it setup like I had before with iMap. Getting email notifications instantly isn't that important for me, and I'd rather not get buzzed at all hours of the day with notifications unless I open the mail app.
The way it notifies doesn't change though. You still would get the same notifications using imap, just it will only occur on the intervals you setup for fetch.