It can. macOS installs can be transferred between systems.Is this a possibility, or would the fact that they're different machines with different hardware mean this can't work?
That’s very strange. The original install disc “should” always work. This might sound drastic, but you could try removing the hard drive and see if it finally boots from the DVD then. If so, you could use Target Disk Mode or a USB-to-SATA adapter to externally erase the hard drive which will put an end to the Recovery shenanigans.Next up, Snow Leopard install DVD...Nope, back to Recovery.
YES! It did boot into Target Disk Mode! I will await the cable and adapter.It can. macOS installs can be transferred between systems.
That’s very strange. The original install disc “should” always work. This might sound drastic, but you could try removing the hard drive and see if it finally boots from the DVD then. If so, you could use Target Disk Mode or a USB-to-SATA adapter to externally erase the hard drive which will put an end to the Recovery shenanigans.
With that being said, can you boot the MBP into Target Disk Mode? Hold [T] after powering on.
Still waiting on the firewire to Thunderbolt adapter. But, looking into the other option, removing the hard drive. Is thisIt can. macOS installs can be transferred between systems.
That’s very strange. The original install disc “should” always work. This might sound drastic, but you could try removing the hard drive and see if it finally boots from the DVD then. If so, you could use Target Disk Mode or a USB-to-SATA adapter to externally erase the hard drive which will put an end to the Recovery shenanigans.
With that being said, can you boot the MBP into Target Disk Mode? Hold [T] after powering on.
Yep.But, looking into the other option, removing the hard drive. Is this
what you were referring to?
I'm beginning to think I should have just bought a new SSD. Once installed and formatted, could I just insert my Snow Leopard install disk and start new?Yep.
That’s how it’s supposed to work.I'm beginning to think I should have just bought a new SSD. Once installed and formatted, could I just insert my Snow Leopard install disk and start new?
Correct. 10.6.3 will kernel panic because of the Sandy Bridge CPU, which it's too old to recognise. You need at least the special 10.6.6 version the 2011 MBPs came with for proper Sandy Bridge support.So I did some more research. Apparently, the 2011 MBP shipped with Snow Leopard 10.6.6 or 10.6.7, but the retail full install version is 10.6.3 and can't be used to re-install SL on the machine. <sigh>
Correct.So this means that even with a new SSD installed, the 2011 MBP wouldn't boot with the SL retail install disk, right?
Connect the 2011 MBP to the 2008 MBP via FireWire, put the 2011 MBP in Target Disk Mode and clone the 2008's Snow Leopard installation to the 2011 MBP using e.g. Carbon Copy Cloner, SuperDuper! or even Disk Utility's "Restore" function (but IIRC the latter only works if the target drive is at least as big as the source drive).My ancient 2008 black MBP is, in fact, running SL 10.6.8 😂. So now I'm looking into what options are available to me from that end.
Absolutely. That's the nice thing about Macs and Target Disk Mode. You can just do things like that. I've done it countless times.Is it possible to clone directly from the 2008 MB to the 2011 MB, maybe via firewire?
So I got as far as CCC's website, but the version I can use for 10.6.8 is no longer available. But, I found this.Correct. 10.6.3 will kernel panic because of the Sandy Bridge CPU, which it's too old to recognise. You need at least the special 10.6.6 version the 2011 MBPs came with for proper Sandy Bridge support.
Correct.
Connect the 2011 MBP to the 2008 MBP via FireWire, put the 2011 MBP in Target Disk Mode and clone the 2008's Snow Leopard installation to the 2011 MBP using, say, Carbon Copy Cloner, SuperDuper! or even Disk Utility's "Restore" function.
Absolutely. That's the nice thing about Macs and Target Disk Mode. You can just do things like that. I've done it countless times.
So I got as far as CCC's website, but the version I can use for 10.6.8 is no longer available. But, I found this.
- Does anyone know if this is a safe site?
- Would I just download and install it on the 2008 MB, connect via firewire to the 2011 MBP, boot it in Target mode, then use CCC to clone it to the 2011's HD?
Yes, it’s fine… in this regard. But the “Macintosh Garden” as mentioned by @TheShortTimer is a much better option.Does anyone know if this is a safe site?
Yes. You need to boot the 2011 in Target Disk Mode, in case that was unclear.Would I just download and install it on the 2008 MB, connect via firewire to the 2011 MBP, boot it in Target mode, then use CCC to clone it to the 2011's HD?
You can also download the 10.6-compatible version of SuperDuper! right from their website and it does the same thing as CCC.If it's not a safe site, can someone point me to detailed instructions on how to do this via Disk Utility?
OK, so I didn't see this before I proceeded to a certain extent.Good advice from @Amethyst1. I ran into this problem whilst reinstalling Snow Leopard to my MacBook Air and I discovered that the retail disc was too old and that I'd need to find a newer version. I've done the FireWire cloning method myself and it's much easier than what I had to devise for the MacBook Air...
That site is "safe" but I'd strongly recommend that you download CCC instead from Macintosh Garden because it will be faster, free from download limits and the webmaster for that site simply downloads software from the Garden and places it on their site.
Yes.
This is where I’d have hit the brakes.To get it to run, though, I had to do some changes to the system files as per a comment on MacIntosh Garden.
If the command-line environment on the install DVD includesIs there a way to undo the SystemVersion.plist changes via Terminal?
nano
(a text editor), then there’s a chance. Try entering nano “/Volumes/Macintosh HD/System/Library/CoreServices/SystemVersion.plist”
. And if I select Install Snow Leopard, will I be back to 10.6.3 and unable to upgrade it?
Yes, but you need software like TransMac to access the HFS+ partition.I have Windows XP on another partition as an option for startup. Would I be able to gain access the Mac OS SystemVersion file from there to undo the change?
I think you need to click “Options” before the installation is about to begin to select “Archive and Install”. It’s a bit hidden.I opted for installing Snow Leopard from the disk, but was not offered the 'archive and install' option. It seems to be going ok so far.
As long as you didn’t erase, repartition or reformat the hard drive, you should be good to go.My main priority is regaining access to the 2008 MB as I have photos there I have never been able to transfer to my subsequent MBP.
Awesome! Now let’s try bringing the 2011 MBP back to life, shall we?It's baa-aack!
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