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Rogifan

macrumors Penryn
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Nov 14, 2011
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Good lord that metro UI (or whatever they're calling it now) looks gawd awful. Why is everyone obsessed with busy cluttered screens. The first thing I'd do is hide everything on the desktop and only show whatever wallpaper I chose. Then access all of my apps or shortcuts either via start menu or task bar.
 

Irishman

macrumors 68040
Nov 2, 2006
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People are just parroting other people. All you have to do is click on the desktop tile or hit win + D and you're back on the desktop. Most people hate it because they're lazy and don't want to do one extra click to get on the desktop.

People are just too damn stubborn and can't adjust to any change. There is no progress if people don't want to change.

Edit - Also the majority of consumers are idiots. These are the same consumers who can't distinguish between a Samsung tablet and an iPad, even though the box they bought clearly stated it was made from Samsung, not Apple.

Way to go! Blame the tablet-buying public for not seeing how great Windows 8 is.

That's always a winning combination - an overly inflated sense of superiority and disdain for others!
 

Black Magic

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Sep 30, 2012
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It's not so much blaming the user as calling people out for making a huge deal out of an incredibly small one.

YOU MEAN IT TAKES ME TO THE LAUNCHER INSTEAD OF THE DESKTOP! THAT MEANS I HAVE TO TAKE AN EXTRA MOUSE CLICK TO GET THERE? OH MY GOD IT'S RUINED FOREVER THIS IS NOT AN OS SUITED FOR A MOUSE!

...oh, well while I'm here, I might as well launch explorer. Oh hey, it took me right to explorer on the desktop. Who would've thunk.

It's not like the desktop as any different than it was before (sans start button), and it's not like going to the start screen suddenly requires you to drop your mouse and start stabbing at icons with you finger to select them. All things considered, it's a fairly minor difference.

In fact, you don't launch any metro apps, and Windows 8 isn't much different from Windows 7. You don't have to deal with the metro style resizing or anything.


You are a pretentious poster. You stand up bashing anyone that doesn't like Windows 8. You call people LAZY when people are pointing out inefficient design by adding unnecessary steps. You like it and that's cool. Many other don't and it WILL be a failed OS with zero traction in the enterprise market.

Either you work for Microsoft or you invest in Microsoft but at the end of the day you should dial down your rhetoric.
 
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wallpaper01

macrumors newbie
Mar 14, 2012
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Did not like it at first but forced it to be main main OS. Find it fine now, just like anything.

I never used keyboard shortcuts before but now I am, so actually I'm getting around the OS quicker than I was in Windows 7.

People are just afraid of change, change is good! There are a few UI issues but I'm sure they will get sorted out with upgrades.

Think the kids will be ok with this, older users may struggle with the change.

I am a computer programmer/DBA and I could quite happily use this in a production environment, after I have sorted out my layout/shortcuts etc...

Have to say on a tablet this os looks epic, I expect it to do very well.
 

wallpaper01

macrumors newbie
Mar 14, 2012
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I'm gonna double reply to you to show how big of a non issue this is.

See, it only takes you to the start menu instead of the desktop when you first boot up your computer. How often do you reboot your computer? I dunno about you, but I'd say I restart about, maybe, once a month. Resuming from sleep or hibernation takes you back to where you last were before it went to sleep. That's usually the desktop.

So, around once a month you have to do this.

Boot up...

wait a sec...

Okay, here I am.

Image

I wanna get on my desktop and open Photoshop. Okay, so I have to click the desktop tile...

Image

...which takes me to my desktop, then go allllll the way down here to open PS.

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That's horrible design! One extra click! No wonder MS is a dying company!

Or wait...

I could just click right here...

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...and do the exact same thing with one less click! WELL HOLY HELL! THAT'S WONDERFUL!

See, why do you need to go to the desktop right away for? What does the desktop do by itself that's so damn important? Usually the first thing you do after booting up is launch an application, right?

...which you can do from the new start screen.

And that's why all this bitching, whining, moaning, and groaning is so utterly totally and completely useless and stupid. It is literally people acting like it's the end of everything they know and love simply because something isn't 100% exactly the same as it was before.

I see your point about this and your correct, actually Microsoft has eliminated the double click with metro shortcuts so 'technically' you are using 50% less effort than in Windows 7.

Also you can hit the Windows key to go back to metro (1 click) and open another app (1 click). (so 2 clicks).

In Windows 7 you would need to minimise the window to see the desktop (1 click) then double click (2 clicks) to open another program (so 3 clicks).

Windows 8 IS actually simpler, its the fact that metro opens over everything will confuse and irritate people (me included at first).

If this was a brand new OS people would be fine, but because its such a radical change its confusing. Metro is basically just a full screen start menu with extra functionality.

Hope I made all this clear, I wanted to dislike at 1st but being rational and with constant use its actually pretty damn good.
 

Renzatic

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You are a pretentious poster. You stand up bashing anyone that doesn't like Windows 8. You call people LAZY when people are pointing out inefficient design by adding unnecessary steps. You like it and that's cool. Many other don't and it WILL be a failed OS with zero traction in the enterprise market.

Either you work for Microsoft or you invest in Microsoft but at the end of the day you should dial down your rhetoric.

I never called anyone lazy. I said they were being overly dramatic, and the flaws people keep pointing out aren't flaws at all, rather a very slightly different way to do the same thing. No unnecessary steps, doesn't take any longer, not inefficient. It's just regeared for the up and coming tablet/PC hybridization MS is gunning for.

Course I can't defend it against opinion and taste. Like the guy who said he doesn't like switching from the desktop to the full screen start just to launch or search for something. I can't argue that. If you don't like something, you don't like something. But that's personal preference. What I'm arguing against is the hyperbole.

And I wouldn't call myself pretentious. I'm more an occasionally acerbic smartass if anything. :p
 
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