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skythefly13

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So I'm 17 and I was hoping to get the new MBP when it is released.....Just like last tuesday :rolleyes: ......and I was planning on using the educational discount since my mom works at one of the elementary schools in town. When does the discount start and end again? It seems like the date would be nearing for the end of this school year, I just really hope they update the MBPs before then!!! Ahhh!:mad:
 
it's one discount for one laptop every academic year, so if your mom didn't get any apple laptops with a discount this academic year, anytime's fine. really. you can even order in like, July. Or October. whatever.
 
it's one discount for one laptop every academic year, so if your mom didn't get any apple laptops with a discount this academic year, anytime's fine. really. you can even order in like, July. Or October. whatever.

anyone ever realise tat there was no educational discount in malaysia?:mad:
i duno whether apple or steve jobs don practice it here?:mad:
or the apple malaysia act take off the discount to earn more profit?:mad:
should i send a letter to apple to clearified?:D
really wanna have a mbp but i just with limited resources..:D
 
it's one discount for one laptop every academic year, so if your mom didn't get any apple laptops with a discount this academic year, anytime's fine. really. you can even order in like, July. Or October. whatever.

Ohhh, ok great, that makes me less worried about whenever they get updated. I would go for the black macbook with a 200 gb hd and 2 gb ram but the graphics card is lagging.....hopefully this changes soon!:rolleyes: thanks
 
anyone ever realise tat there was no educational discount in malaysia?:mad:
I think Machines offers a 5% discount, and some universities in Malaysia also have educational discount programs. Either that, or wait until PCFair :)

skythefly, I was going to suggest you veer away from the Apple Educational Store and opt instead for a purchase from MacMall or MacConnection. Both retailers offer very competitive pricing on Apple's line of computers. Because the Apple Store has a physical presence in all 50 states, they are required by state law to charge state sales tax. ...and then I realized that Oregon has no state sales tax, and you're probably better off buying using that Educational Discount.
 
I'm British but I'm going to highschool in the US next year, what do you need to take to the store for them to give you the education discount?

I'd be buying around august 14th probably, if timing matters at all.

Thanks.
 
Free Nano or rebate?

Doesn't Apple usually have some kind of free ipod or rebate deal for students this time of year?
 
I'm British but I'm going to highschool in the US next year, what do you need to take to the store for them to give you the education discount?

I'd be buying around august 14th probably, if timing matters at all.

Thanks.

The education discount is not available to high school or elementary students. Only College and University students, K-12 TEACHERS, College and University Faculty members, and home schooling parents or persons who teach.

You cannot get the education discount as a high school student.

http://store.apple.com/Catalog/US/Images/routingpage.html

^^^^each category lists the requirements when linked.
 
Dam!

Thanks Kwood, I need to read that stuff more carefully next time, I just assumed that it was for anyone in education. Bummer, oh well, I just need to figure a way to get together $200 before July. A lot harder than it sounds. :(
 
I dont think you have to be "in" school to recieve the discount. I got mine for just begin accepted into college. As long as you are enrolled in classes or accepted I think it is okay.
 
I dont think you have to be "in" school to recieve the discount. I got mine for just begin accepted into college. As long as you are enrolled in classes or accepted I think it is okay.

Honestly, I don't think they check a thing if you order online.
I can't remember exactly, but I don't think they really cared about my papers when I bought in store w/ education discount either.
 
Can you buy a Mac in America and save money that way?

That is the plan!! I just thought it might be possible to save more by an education discount, before I realized it wasn't available to those in highschool.

The amount Apple adds to the cost of stuff here is appalling, with the currenct exchange rate, the 'middle' MBP in the US works out as cheaper than the lower configuartion in the UK!
 
...and I was planning on using the educational discount since my mom works at one of the elementary schools in town.

I believe that the educational discounts are only for higher educations (post high school). That said, if you order online they don't check. Just pick a college and you'd get a few hundred off your new MBP. If you go to a physical store they will want to see your school id. :cool:
 
Honestly, I don't think they check a thing if you order online.
I can't remember exactly, but I don't think they really cared about my papers when I bought in store w/ education discount either.

Well they asked me to fax/email some ID to prove I was in uni when I used the educational discount, they also did it for a teacher I know. But maybe it depends on the country (I am in the UK).

Although they didn't check for ID when buying software, only hardware.
 
Apple does random checks of those who order online using the educational discount. Most likely they won't ask for proof of being a higher education student but there is a chance that they will, no matter how your get your computer so I would not suggest using it if you do not qualify.
 
Apple does random checks of those who order online using the educational discount. Most likely they won't ask for proof of being a higher education student but there is a chance that they will, no matter how your get your computer so I would not suggest using it if you do not qualify.

If they "catch" you just say you are buying it for your goddaughter or something. If they won't let you pass, use another email address and try again. Your account is tied to an email address. Don't be a bitch to the System. :apple:
 
Honestly, I don't think they check a thing if you order online.
I can't remember exactly, but I don't think they really cared about my papers when I bought in store w/ education discount either.

I think you are right. I bought my iPod just over 2 years ago from the online store with the education discount and I lied and said I was in college. They never checked and I got by just fine. I had just submitted my application to the local university and easily got accepted, so I was technically capable of being enrolled and I felt it was justified, so...

On a side note, I have finished two years of college and I am going through school PT this summer and continuing full time in the fall. I think I am going to purchase the MBP whenever it is updated, but I haven't been fully convinced due to the whole screen grain and uneven lighting situations. Those things could really get in the way when trying to do graphic design work I think. I guess we will see what happens when the time comes.
 
I was soo happy when i found The educational discount. Then when i was going to pay for the MBP they told me i had to older to have it :mad: . I wish they had it like Adobe has (witch is great :) ).
 
How does Apple define the "academic year"? What is it, and is it the same for edu stores in every country?
I thought the higher ed agreement mentioned this..they don't. So I'm not sure.

I dont think you have to be "in" school to recieve the discount. I got mine for just begin accepted into college. As long as you are enrolled in classes or accepted I think it is okay.
  • Student currently attending or accepted into a public or private Higher Education Institution in the United States
  • Parent purchasing on behalf of their child who is a student currently attending or accepted into public or private Higher Education Institution in the United States

Honestly, I don't think they check a thing if you order online.
They do random checks.

I believe that the educational discounts are only for higher educations (post high school). That said, if you order online they don't check.
Sometimes they do. Please don't abuse the system. College students have a bigger reason to have a laptop than HS students and edu discounts sincerely help.

Also if you read the original post, you'd realize it was the mother, who is an elementary school teacher and thus qualifies for the apple edu discount, who was going to get the discount in the first place.

Apple does random checks of those who order online using the educational discount. Most likely they won't ask for proof of being a higher education student but there is a chance that they will, no matter how your get your computer so I would not suggest using it if you do not qualify.
I think Apple might bill you for the difference or something. Vice versa..if you buy it in store or something without a discount cause you didn't have an ID or whatever, you can come back within a couple days or something to get the discount.
If they "catch" you just say you are buying it for your goddaughter or something. If they won't let you pass, use another email address and try again. Your account is tied to an email address. Don't be a bitch to the System. :apple:
Stop *&$#ing abusing the system or telling people (how) to abuse the system.
 
Stop *&$#ing abusing the system or telling people (how) to abuse the system.

The System is all about abusing us...

  • Apple makes their own computers so there isn't any competition and they can set their own price.
  • Since Apple makes their own computers, their vendors -- in essenscence -- engage in price fixing. The prices are the same everywhere.
  • Apple tells you how to get a paltry 5% discount and permits you do so without checks or balances.
  • Yet you don't want to feel bad so you pay retail price for something that has 50-100% markup.
Don't be a sucker janey... and don't tell me and others what to do. Tune in, turn on, drop out.

Buy Different. :apple:
 
  • Apple makes their own computers so there isn't any competition and they can set their own price.

It's called supply and demand. It's neither illegal nor unethical. Lying about being in college when you are not is unethical. If you don't want to buy their products at the price that the economical system is asking for, then you don't have to.

  • Since Apple makes their own computers, their vendors -- in essenscence -- engage in price fixing. The prices are the same everywhere.

Actually, I'll say that thanks to the list price being honored everywhere, some stores are not selling way higher. Supply and demand would dictate for (more than likely) a higher price since there isn't that big of a supply.

  • Apple tells you how to get a paltry 5% discount and permits you do so without checks or balances.

There are in fact checks and balances. And even if there weren't, they ask you if you are in college and you have to agree to their terms of use.

  • Yet you don't want to feel bad so you pay retail price for something that has 300% markup.

300% mark up? people like to compare it to pc's that basically have no good software included. All macs come with ilife, software like these could sell for about 100-200 with no problems.
 
Don't be a sucker janey... and don't tell me and others what to do.
Okay, how about this.

Apple assembles their own computers, and yes there is competition if you haven't noticed. Apple could choose to stick with doing whatever they feel like doing, but when everyone else is using the same hardware for their own laptops too, Apple sure as hell can't charge $2000 for the same thing Lenovo or HP is charging $1000 for. And they aren't, just in case you haven't noticed Apple's prices being on par with the rest of the industry's.

Hence, Apple cannot engage in price fixing the way they want to because they risk losing a lot of customers if someone can go buy a newer setup for half the price instead of going with the outdated Mac that just looks good. Cause it doesn't matter if it's running Mac OS X or Windows for most college students because we all need the same set of apps, and they're all available on both platforms (like Office and iTunes).

Education discounts are certainly not 5% - it is 5% for the MacBooks but can go up or down depending on what is purchased. Apple marks up their hardware. Duh. How else are they gonna get money for R&D? Oh wait, Apple's a company, just like everyone else. And they're all counting on the fact that if certain discounts are only available to certain select small markets (education, developer, volume and so on), they can benefit, although with an initial loss, and those certain customers can benefit as well. But the moment that half their customers take this route, they won't be so happy about it.

It's called an education discount for a reason. And I'm a college student, so I'm gonna use that discount cause it's useful, and I don't want some idiot going around telling people who normally wouldn't go for the discount cause it's edu only that Apple doesn't check or care most of the time so you should lie your way into getting a few bucks off of a laptop. (well, to be honest, not really if I had the alternate vastly superior choice of the developer hardware discount available, but you can't even sign up for the student adc membership if you can't provide proof, yay)

Telling people to do this is not the same as getting a discount some other way, via coupons or special promos or refurb. You're telling people that it's okay to lie to get a measly $50 off a MacBook, which isn't even relevant to the OP's issue.

An eye for an eye leaves the whole world blind. It's irrational to expect Apple to be pro-consumer, but that money doesn't just line part of SJ's pockets, it goes to paying for the salaries of all the people who work to get this stuff to you from the executives to the software devs to the guys working in China to assemble and test them, for using during hard times or when there's a new product launch...Apple can do whatever they want and once it becomes uncomfortably unprofitable to keep giving good student discounts and promos, they will stop, be it with worthless discounts or no more summer deals like last year's free 2gb iPods. Not something that people who qualify and need such discounts wants to see happen because other people who didn't qualify believed it was okay to go and do this all they want by lying about it.

If $50 is such a big deal, go legit with refurbs.

That's not to mention you also agree to Apple's education store terms, which also include the nice tidbit about being charged the difference if they ever catch you. So if paying back the discount seriously makes a dent in your wallet, don't do it.

http://store.apple.com/Catalog/US/Images/salespoliciesEdIndividual.html said:
AUDIT RIGHTS
Apple routinely audits the purchases of customers at the Apple Store for Education to insure that only eligible purchases have ordered and that all purchase conditions have been observed. Should an audit disclose after delivery (or should Apple otherwise discover) that you were not an eligible purchaser at the time you placed your order or that you have not observed all of the conditions applicable to your purchase, you authorize Apple:
  • If you placed your order by credit card, to charge to your credit card the difference between the amount you paid for the delivered goods and the price that Apple charged the general public for the same goods at the Apple Store, in effect on the date that you placed your order; and
  • If you paid by a means other than credit card, to (a) invoice you for the difference between the amount that you paid for the delivered goods and the price that Apple charged the general public for the same goods at the Apple Store, payable in fifteen days from the date of the invoice, and (b), should you fail to pay the invoice when due, institute legal action against you in a court of competent jurisdiction, with the prevailing party entitled to attorneys' fees.
  • Should Apple not offer to the general public the specific products that you purchased at the Apple Store for education, your credit card will be charged or you will be invoiced the difference between the amount you paid for the delivered goods and the price that Apple charged the general public for the closest equivalent goods at the Apple Store, in effect on the date that you placed your order.
 
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