I doubt it. Mac users bitch incessantly as it is now, can you imagine the uproar about a laptop with an 11" screen? People would be bitching about the footprint, the battery, the temperature... no thanks.
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"I fail to see the fascination with Eeeeee Pc, or whatever that POS is called"
seconded and third too.
the thing is cheap looking, slow, butt ugly, and nearly useless. even before the iPhone SDK it compares more to the phone than to the MBA.
now it just looks like a joke.
what is the obsession some of you have with this POS?
"I fail to see the fascination with Eeeeee Pc, or whatever that POS is called"
seconded and third too.
the thing is cheap looking, slow, butt ugly, and nearly useless. even before the iPhone SDK it compares more to the phone than to the MBA.
now it just looks like a joke.
what is the obsession some of you have with this POS?
Get over it.
Wow, calling it a "POS", saying that it "looks like a joke" and assuming we have some kind of "obsession" with it really enhances your argument.
What you should be asking yourself is why it bothers YOU personally so much? I assumed we lived in a world where we had individual free choice to like / dislike whichever product we wanted. Yet according to you, anyone who dares show an interest in the EEE over the MBA or iPhone is clearly deluded and should be immediately carted away to the asylum.
The EEE is an extremely good value for money and extremely portable product that allows its users to surf the internet, check e-mail and do basic office work. It isn't designed to write novels on or perform processor hungry tasks. It has its purpose and target audience as does the MBA.
Whether you like it or not is your own personal preference, but don't you dare assume that everybody else should follow your view or be damned. You don't speak for or represent everyone. If you like the MBA then sing its praises rather than making snide attacks on another product in a manner that's obviously inviting people to flame you.
I bid you good day.
"I fail to see the fascination with Eeeeee Pc, or whatever that POS is called"
seconded and third too.
the thing is cheap looking, slow, butt ugly, and nearly useless. even before the iPhone SDK it compares more to the phone than to the MBA.
now it just looks like a joke.
what is the obsession some of you have with this POS?
Wow, calling it a "POS", saying that it "looks like a joke" and assuming we have some kind of "obsession" with it really enhances your argument.
What you should be asking yourself is why it bothers YOU personally so much? I assumed we lived in a world where we had individual free choice to like / dislike whichever product we wanted. Yet according to you, anyone who dares show an interest in the EEE over the MBA or iPhone is clearly deluded and should be immediately carted away to the asylum.
The EEE is an extremely good value for money and extremely portable product that allows its users to surf the internet, check e-mail and do basic office work. It isn't designed to write novels on or perform processor hungry tasks. It has its purpose and target audience as does the MBA.
Whether you like it or not is your own personal preference, but don't you dare assume that everybody else should follow your view or be damned. You don't speak for or represent everyone. If you like the MBA then sing its praises rather than making snide attacks on another product in a manner that's obviously inviting people to flame you.
I bid you good day.
I fail to see the fascination with Eeeeee Pc, or whatever that POS is called. Go to eBay, click "buy it now" on a decent used laptop with a 12, 13, or 14" screen with an nVidia gpu, and put Ubuntu on it. You save money, get a laptop with a screen that you don't have to use a microscope to read, and get an actual laptop to use.
I too struggle with the following specs:
Linux Operating System
512 MB Memory
4 GB Hard Drive
7" Display
Built In Webcam
Microphone
Wireless Enabled
HD Audio Stereo Speakers
0.92 Kg Weight
Up to 2.8 hrs Battery Life
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Full specification
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Internal Memory 512 MB
Processor speed 400 The higher the number of Megahertz (MHZ) the faster the processor should be
Integrated Speakers YES
Width 225 mm
Depth 160 mm
Height 35 mm
Weight 916G kg This is the weight of the appliance in KG
Battery Type LI-ION 4 CELL
PC Compatible YES
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When for the same price you could get a 16GB iPod Touch with 22 hrs of battery life from Amazon. Sure you don't get the webcam or some of the expandability options, but which is going to be more useful in the real world?
"I fail to see the fascination with Eeeeee Pc, or whatever that POS is called"
seconded and third too.
the thing is cheap looking, slow, butt ugly, and nearly useless. even before the iPhone SDK it compares more to the phone than to the MBA.
now it just looks like a joke.
what is the obsession some of you have with this POS?
The EEE is a great little computer. I got one so I can take it with me on vacation (not as sad as it sounds at first: I run my own business and have to have access to e-mail, and remote desktop connections 24/7): I don't really fancy taking my MBA (or my iPhone) because there's never anywhere truly safe to stash your valuables in the typical vacation hotel. The EEE cost me £200 and if it gets nicked out of the hotel whilst I'm sunning myself I don't really care too much
Does it feel cheap? Yes, but it was!
Is it slow? Yes, but it gets the job done
Is it a POS? Definitely not
Is there anything like it in the price bracket? Not currently, which is why it's so popular!
Does the iphone have a USB port?? They are 2 different devices meant to do different things. the eeePC is a very good device and a very good option for people who want a fully functional laptop that costs $299 or $399.
"I fail to see the fascination with Eeeeee Pc, or whatever that POS is called"
seconded and third too.
the thing is cheap looking, slow, butt ugly, and nearly useless. even before the iPhone SDK it compares more to the phone than to the MBA.
now it just looks like a joke.
what is the obsession some of you have with this POS?
but did you buy a "New" T30 for $299 , I guess not. Do not do such lame comparisons..
Here we go again, You are trying to compare 2 different product lines!!. Stop such lame comparisons. What you are trying to do is to compare a banana and a mango. They are totally different even though they are fruits(in this case, electronic devices).
I don't see what's so great about them, but I guess that's only a factor of what I use my laptop for, I need a fairly powerful computer for media work, but I can't afford to have two machines, especially when the other one is so... limited.
It is great for people who want a laptop for $299!! Plus the flexibility of the USB port means you can add an external portable HDD to increase HD space.
Also note that the RAM can be increased too (if neded) . Plus the fact that you can run windows XP means that you can essentially use it as a mainstream laptop.
Of course everyone has different requirements and for some the MBA is their idea of a dream machine but for OUR uses the EEE is perfect and that's all that matters in the end, right?
As long as the computer functions and meets the users needs, I think that's all that really matters
.Seems cool, I personally don't see myself using one of these but then again I don't see myself ever buying a Macbook Air.
The Eee obviously. Unless I missed the part where the iPod had Open Office installed.
Here's the thing - use both devices and then decide. We tend to criticize one over the other without spending time using each one.
Strengths of the Eee PC include the size and weight, Linux, USB ports (2 more), SD card reader, Ethernet port and price.
Strengths of the Macbook Air include size and weight, Mac OS X, 802.11n, Bluetooth, multi-touch trackpad, CPU speed and storage and back-lit keyboard.
The weight difference is 1lb and I think I can say that this is not that significant unless you are a grade school kid.
The size - the Eee PC has this as its strong point because it is small and easy to carry. However, this is at the expense of small screen and small keyboard.
The size - the MBA has this as its strong point as well. Whilst it is not as small as the Eee PC, it has a full-size keyboard and larger screen (better).
The Eee PC definitely has an edge in the number of USB ports. However, the single USB port of the MBA requires some behavioral adjustment or change in computing style. At the very least, you connect the mouse (recommended for the Eee PC) and storage (USB external HDD or thumbdrive).
The SD card reader is very convenient for those using digital cameras. For the Eee PC, this is crucial to add more storage. However, this adds cost to the overall price of the Eee PC.
The Ethernet port is convenient, of course. However, some folks just do not use it anymore. Besides, the MBA supports it (but at a cost - both in money and in USB port).
Linux and Mac OS X have its own advantages and disadvantages. No contest here since this is more of a personal choice.
802.11n is a strong point of the MBA. Faster networking. Unfortunately, this is often limited to home/office setup. Public wifi does not support it (yet).
Bluetooth and multi-touch trackpad remove the need for a mouse tethered on the USB port, i.e., freeing it up for the USB storage. Makes it a bit more at par with the Eee PC for most instances.
The back-lit keyboard is not a deal-breaker for most but to some, it is. Frankly, I prefer keyboards to be back-lit.
Processor speed and storage are far better on the MBA than Eee PC. 1.6Ghz Core 2 vs 900Mhz single processor. 4GB/8GB vs 80GB.
Price. You can buy 4 Eee PCs for the price of a single MBA. If you do not have the funds for the MBA but really need a small and functional notebook, the Eee PC is a great device.
Now, to add to the picture - if you have iTunes library collection with an iPod and/or an iPhone, it is no brainer to choose the MBA over the Eee PC.
Personally, my recommendation is often like this - if you have the money, get the MBA. Otherwise, get the Eee PC.
Strengths of the Eee PC include the size and weight, Linux, USB ports (2 more), SD card reader, Ethernet port and price.
Strengths of the Macbook Air include size and weight, Mac OS X, 802.11n, Bluetooth, multi-touch trackpad, CPU speed and storage and back-lit keyboard.
The weight difference is 1lb and I think I can say that this is not that significant unless you are a grade school kid.
The size - the Eee PC has this as its strong point because it is small and easy to carry. However, this is at the expense of small screen and small keyboard.
The size - the MBA has this as its strong point as well. Whilst it is not as small as the Eee PC, it has a full-size keyboard and larger screen (better).
The Eee PC definitely has an edge in the number of USB ports. However, the single USB port of the MBA requires some behavioral adjustment or change in computing style. At the very least, you connect the mouse (recommended for the Eee PC) and storage (USB external HDD or thumbdrive).
The SD card reader is very convenient for those using digital cameras. For the Eee PC, this is crucial to add more storage. However, this adds cost to the overall price of the Eee PC.
The Ethernet port is convenient, of course. However, some folks just do not use it anymore. Besides, the MBA supports it (but at a cost - both in money and in USB port).
Linux and Mac OS X have its own advantages and disadvantages. No contest here since this is more of a personal choice.
802.11n is a strong point of the MBA. Faster networking. Unfortunately, this is often limited to home/office setup. Public wifi does not support it (yet).
Bluetooth and multi-touch trackpad remove the need for a mouse tethered on the USB port, i.e., freeing it up for the USB storage. Makes it a bit more at par with the Eee PC for most instances.
The back-lit keyboard is not a deal-breaker for most but to some, it is. Frankly, I prefer keyboards to be back-lit.
Processor speed and storage are far better on the MBA than Eee PC. 1.6Ghz Core 2 vs 900Mhz single processor. 4GB/8GB vs 80GB.
Price. You can buy 4 Eee PCs for the price of a single MBA. If you do not have the funds for the MBA but really need a small and functional notebook, the Eee PC is a great device.
Now, to add to the picture - if you have iTunes library collection with an iPod and/or an iPhone, it is no brainer to choose the MBA over the Eee PC.
Personally, my recommendation is often like this - if you have the money, get the MBA. Otherwise, get the Eee PC.
If you're going to say that people should try both and decide for themselves, why do you have to follow it up with this kind of unnecessary antagonism? A pound is a pound. An inch is an inch. If there is a certain weight that one is comfortable carrying in their daily bag, then that weight is just what it is. A pound less of it taken up by one's computer is a pound for other things to carry -- an extra folder or two, an umbrella, a DS lite, whatever....
It may not be important to you, but it's absurd to say it's not important to anyone but a grade schooler.
The EEE is going to be more useful for many people.
The 22 hrs. on the Touch is only for audio playback, not web browsing.
And the 2.8 hr thing is for the Surf models.
iPod touch
- Premium media player / PDA thing
- ARM processor
- No Flash support
- Little input methods
- Bigger storage
- Tiny screen and keyboard (relatively)
- 4.2 ounces
EEE PC
- Low-cost full-fledged computer
- Basic x86 processor capable of running multiple operating systems
- Full web browser, can even edit movies in a pinch
- 3 USB ports, SD memory card, VGA output, Ethernet, AC adapter included
- Smaller storage, but expandable
- Small touch-type keyboard
- Medium-sized screen (between MIDs and full-size laptops)
- 2lbs
MacBook Air
- High-end ultraportable with more power
- Fast x86 processor capable of running multiple operating systems
- 1 USB port, video-out
- Big storage capacity (relatively)
- Full-size display and keyboard
- Large footprint, but thin
- 3 lbs
Very different markets, but I think it's safe to say the EEE has more mass-market appeal than the Air.
Very different products, too.
The iPod touch is not a full x86 computer in the traditional sense.
Can you type an essay on it? If you're OK with Google Docs and thumb typing.
Can you attach a flash drive? No.
Can you run Windows? No.
Can you run audio editing or connect another iPod to it? No and no.
Can you view flash? No.
Very well put - If anyone still bashes the eeePC by comparing it to a IPod, they are doing it out of spite
New EEE Details!
From Engadget today:
Woah, that makes things even more interesting and no doubt more desirable an option for some.
Although I agree with most of your points, this point I'm afraid I can't agree with. My friend has an MBA with the 64GB SSD drive and after the operating system and other must have applications have been installed there's just not that much space left for your entire video, music and photo collection. He's got an 80GB iPod so he can store more media on there than he can on his MBA! Even the standard 80GB hard disk on the MBA would have less free space than his iPod.
This lack of space makes him reluctant to transfer his media back and forth from the MBA and instead keeps it all on his PC. The fact is if you have an iTunes library collection with an iPod or iPhone then the EEE and MBA are the two things you DON'T want to use exclusively with it!
Here's my take on it:
From Engadget today:
Woah, that makes things even more interesting and no doubt more desirable an option for some.
Although I agree with most of your points, this point I'm afraid I can't agree with. My friend has an MBA with the 64GB SSD drive and after the operating system and other must have applications have been installed there's just not that much space left for your entire video, music and photo collection. He's got an 80GB iPod so he can store more media on there than he can on his MBA! Even the standard 80GB hard disk on the MBA would have less free space than his iPod.
This lack of space makes him reluctant to transfer his media back and forth from the MBA and instead keeps it all on his PC. The fact is if you have an iTunes library collection with an iPod or iPhone then the EEE and MBA are the two things you DON'T want to use exclusively with it!
Here's my take on it:
- If you have the money, need superior battery life and space is at a premium get the Sony VAIO TZ e.g. if you want to put it into a handbag and are gonna be away from a power adapter for a long time.
- If you have the money, don't mind carrying something the size of a Manilla envelope around, need Mac OS X, need performance, a full size keyboard and want the sexiest design then get the MBA.
- If you don't have the money and need a small a footprint as possible then get the Asus EEE PC.
I hate to say it, but anything with the word "Sony" on it has to be the worst of its kind. Sony is not the "end all, be all" of the electronics world. I had one, I should know. And no matter how many usb ports a computer has, it still runs Windows.
That's a bit of a blanket statement isn't it just cos of one Sony prouduct you had? I'm sure there's a lot of happy PS3 owners out there that would disagree with you along with those with Bravia TV's and Blu-ray players.
Let's be honest here, most ultraportables are gonna be used for basic tasks such as web browsing, word processing and e-mail. Whether you're using Linux, Windows or Mac OS there isn't gonna be THAT much of a difference. Now if you're gonna be doing a lot of multitasking, gonna be installing a lot of programs and need good window management then, yes, Mac OS would excel in those situations. But I'm sure most people would be happy otherwise for their humble uses of an ultraportable.
All iPods have a dock/docking cable that connects to USB, not to mention Email, WiFi and Bluetooth Options on the iPhone.
My point i, that a device with a 2GB drive is not a desktop replacement or even a laptop replacement. Therefore it will in most cases be supplementary, something you take away to conferences and on business trips. And yes, I admit there is probably a niche between the iPod Touch/iPhone and a laptop where this product sits. But for a good majority it will be the choice between needing Internet access to grab and view information on the fly and travelling with a laptop to get serious work done. The reason I am excited about low cost Linux PCs is for my children's generation - not only will it save parents a fortune if they take off, but they will also have the opportunity to really get to grips with programming if they so desire.
You are right, a pound is a pound is a pound. The reference to the grade school kid is more on the ability to choose which items to bring everyday. Most grade school kids are required to carry notebooks, textbooks and other stuff. Contrast this to most people who have a choice on what to bring, then a pound can easily be substituted with some other items, as you have pointed out.
Well, it might take some time for OpenOffice, considering that a native Aqua version for OS X has taken so long, but MS are already interested in porting Office. See MacUser article: http://www.pcpro.co.uk/macuser/news/181281/microsoft-planning-office-for-iphone.html# If they bundled it with the Office Suite then people could make last minute changes to their PowerPoint presentations on the iPhone.
I do see what you mean... I remember having to actually take books back and forth from school. Ugh. Although it seems to me that I see the issue for professionals at least as much, if not more. I don't have a lot of upper body strength, readily admitted, and I don't care to carry a very heavy bag. But there was that phase of the roller-bag mafia, where people started carry more and more things and ultimately ditched their attaches for ones that were half the size of a standard weekend wheeled suitcase, with wheels and a handle, and were carrying around 30-50 lbs of stuff in them. I went in the opposite direction -- briefcases that can only really fit about 10 lbs of things in them. No shoulder strap. And I force myself to pack as lightly as possible. But at the same time, I like to be connected... So anyway, the pound still ends up making a difference to me.
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Perhaps but then we would need to know if it was read only access - unless MS are going to sell a mobile Office Suite which allowed document creation or editing to Apple. In addition I'm not sure a 3.5" screen - of which a good part is taken up by keyboard - is going to be useful for this.
But you never know. I just don't see it happening for a while if at all.
Perhaps but then we would need to know if it was read only access - unless MS are going to sell a mobile Office Suite which allowed document creation or editing to Apple. In addition I'm not sure a 3.5" screen - of which a good part is taken up by keyboard - is going to be useful for this.
But you never know. I just don't see it happening for a while if at all.