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pretty sure they didn't use the word stopgap..

p.Schiller -- " we have plans on iMac, to move that line ahead, and do great things on iMac. It’s core to our Mac business and our customers, including making configurations of iMac specifically with the pro customer in mind and acknowledging that our most popular desktop with pros is an iMac. We want to do things with the iMac in the future to help address those pro needs, and make it… not only continue, but more of a capable machine for pro customers."

c.Federighi -- "That is a pretty incredible evolution that we’ve seen over the last decade. The original iMac, you never would’ve thought as remotely touching pro uses. And now you look at today’s 5k iMac, top configs, it’s incredibly powerful, and a huge fraction of what would’ve traditionally required the Mac Pros of old and are being well addressed by iMac — whether its audio editing, video editing, graphics, arts and so forth. But there’s still even further we can take iMac as a high performance, pro system, and we think that form factor can address even more of the pro market."

if i had to make a wild guess--
i'd say they at least considered killing off mac pro entirely while having this new imac as their top spec'd system.. it's sort of obvious they've been working on this thing well before the press conference in april.. then just prior to the press conference, a decision was made to keep macPro alive and do a 3rd design.
(again - no facts in any of that last bit)

The other angle here is that apple will monitor sales of the iMac pro, and if that is a success, they can turn around and claim that there is no need for a Mac Pro. Watch this space, the future of the Mac Pro is not secure. If the iMac pro is a dismal failure from the pro community, the Mac Pro will live.
 
BruceX: 16 seconds.
As it should!
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Did you do a clean install of 10.13? I wonder if upgrading from 10.12.6 Beta caused some conflicts.
Same as Theitsage from Sierra upgrade to 10.13, but my RX580 works without eGPU box.
 
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The other angle here is that apple will monitor sales of the iMac pro, and if that is a success, they can turn around and claim that there is no need for a Mac Pro. Watch this space, the future of the Mac Pro is not secure. If the iMac pro is a dismal failure from the pro community, the Mac Pro will live.
i think the timing is off for that to be the plan.

imac release in december 2017..
monitor sales for a year..
beginning of 2019 -- decide if they should make a macPro or not.
??
 
i think the timing is off for that to be the plan.

imac release in december 2017..
monitor sales for a year..
beginning of 2019 -- decide if they should make a macPro or not.
??

You can pull a product even just before launch. They will be working on a Mac Pro right now, there is no dependency to wait for sales analysis . Though once you commit to markert, you have to support for x years legally
 
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The other angle here is that apple will monitor sales of the iMac pro, and if that is a success, they can turn around and claim that there is no need for a Mac Pro. Watch this space, the future of the Mac Pro is not secure. If the iMac pro is a dismal failure from the pro community, the Mac Pro will live.
The cost of the base model iMac Pro is very high though. It's not going to have big sales. For some it's overkill. For some underkill. For the highest standards in the print industry, most customers arent going to replace Eizo screens with a glossy glass P3 screen. The machine can do very well but it doesn't cover every Pro need.
 
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Good news! It worked right out of the box. Upgraded from sierra.
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Great news, and thank you for sharing! If you are able to check please let me know if it is connecting at full PCIe speed on Windows and MacOS? cant wait for Vega to be available. That would be enough to hold me over until the New Mac Pro comes out.
 
Good news! It worked right out of the box. Upgraded from sierra.
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Thank you for the update. This is absolutely wonderful news. I thought it didn't make sense at all for the Polaris 10 cards not to work now that Apple has officially supported it in 10.13 beta.

It be must something with my setup. I have an Apple PCIe flash storage as the boot drive in Slot 4. GT 120 in Slot 1 and RX 480 in Slot 2.

Update: Sorry for the false alert. I did a clean install and that seemed to resolve it. Booted up successfully with RX 480. macOS shows R9 XXX though. It seems Audio may be working now with proper drivers.

mac-pro-tower-10-13-beta-rx-480-pcie.png mac-pro-tower-10-13-beta-rx-480.png
 
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Thank you for the update. This is absolutely wonderful news. I thought it didn't make sense at all for the Polaris 10 cards not to work now that Apple has officially supported it in 10.13 beta.

It be must something with my setup. I have an Apple PCIe flash storage as the boot drive in Slot 4. GT 120 in Slot 1 and RX 480 in Slot 2.

Update: Sorry for the false alert. I did a clean install and that seemed to resolve it. Booted up successfully with RX 480. macOS shows R9 XXX though. It seems Audio may be working now with proper drivers.

View attachment 703319 View attachment 703320

Thanks! Is your RX480 used with a modified kext? Or is it a clean, default installed on High Sierra?
 
No modified kexts at all. This is a clean/vanilla install of 10.13 and the RX 480 was plug and play.

Whoa! Sounds promising - and thanks for sharing.

What is the brand/model of your RX480?

And any tests done yet with FCPX or some gaming benchmarks to test stability?
 
The other angle here is that apple will monitor sales of the iMac pro, and if that is a success, they can turn around and claim that there is no need for a Mac Pro. Watch this space, the future of the Mac Pro is not secure. If the iMac pro is a dismal failure from the pro community, the Mac Pro will live.
I think you can argue it either way: if the iMac Pro sells well, then Apple can say there is still demand for high-end, professional-level computers and thus that it's justified to continue development on the Mac Pro. If it doesn't sell well, then they can say that everyone is using the regular Macs and there's no longer a need for the higher-end machines.

Apple said they're developing the next Mac Pro, so I suspect they'll bring it out regardless of how the iMac Pro does. The time and resources needed to develop the new Mac Pro means the decision is unlikely to be based simply on the iMac Pro's sales.
 
Thank you for the update. This is absolutely wonderful news. I thought it didn't make sense at all for the Polaris 10 cards not to work now that Apple has officially supported it in 10.13 beta.

It be must something with my setup. I have an Apple PCIe flash storage as the boot drive in Slot 4. GT 120 in Slot 1 and RX 480 in Slot 2.

Update: Sorry for the false alert. I did a clean install and that seemed to resolve it. Booted up successfully with RX 480. macOS shows R9 XXX though. It seems Audio may be working now with proper drivers.

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RX 480 and 580 share the same PCI ID but not the same revision ID. Maybe it comes from this ?

RX 480: 0xC4 and 0xC7 (maybe 4GB vs 8GB)
RX 580: 0xC1, 0xC3, 0xE7
 
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10.13 Beta 2 has drivers for Vega. It also looks like there's external graphics support for GPUs other than RX 580.

### AMDLegacySupport.kext
* pci device: 6704 - Cayman PRO GL [FirePro V7900]
* pci device: 6718 - Cayman XT [Radeon HD 6970]
* pci device: 6719 - Cayman PRO [Radeon HD 6950]
* pci device: 6720 - Blackcomb [Radeon HD 6970M/6990M]
* pci device: 6722 - unknown device
* pci device: 6738 - Barts XT [Radeon HD 6870]
* pci device: 6739 - Barts PRO [Radeon HD 6850]
* pci device: 6740 - Whistler [Radeon HD 6730M/6770M/7690M XT]
* pci device: 6741 - Whistler [Radeon HD 6630M/6650M/6750M/7670M/7690M]
* pci device: 6745 - unknown device
* pci device: 6750 - Onega [Radeon HD 6650A/7650A]
* pci device: 6758 - Turks XT [Radeon HD 6670/7670]
* pci device: 6759 - Turks PRO [Radeon HD 6570/7570/8550]
* pci device: 6760 - Seymour [Radeon HD 6400M/7400M Series]
* pci device: 6761 - Seymour LP [Radeon HD 6430M]
* pci device: 6768 - Caicos
* pci device: 6770 - Caicos [Radeon HD 6450A/7450A]
* pci device: 6779 - Caicos [Radeon HD 6450/7450/8450 / R5 230 OEM]
* pci device: 6840 - Thames [Radeon HD 7500M/7600M Series]
* pci device: 6841 - Thames [Radeon HD 7550M/7570M/7650M]
* pci device: 6898 - Cypress XT [Radeon HD 5870]
* pci device: 6899 - Cypress PRO [Radeon HD 5850]
* pci device: 68a0 - Broadway XT [Mobility Radeon HD 5870]
* pci device: 68a1 - Broadway PRO [Mobility Radeon HD 5850]
* pci device: 68b0 - unknown device
* pci device: 68b1 - unknown device
* pci device: 68b8 - Juniper XT [Radeon HD 5770]
* pci device: 68c0 - Madison [Mobility Radeon HD 5730 / 6570M]
* pci device: 68c1 - Madison [Mobility Radeon HD 5650/5750 / 6530M/6550M]
* pci device: 68d8 - Redwood XT [Radeon HD 5670/5690/5730]
* pci device: 68d9 - Redwood PRO [Radeon HD 5550/5570/5630/6510/6610/7570]
* pci device: 68e0 - Park [Mobility Radeon HD 5430/5450/5470]
* pci device: 68e1 - Park [Mobility Radeon HD 5430]
* pci device: 9440 - RV770 [Radeon HD 4870]
* pci device: 944a - RV770/M98L [Mobility Radeon HD 4850]
* pci device: 9488 - RV730/M96-XT [Mobility Radeon HD 4670]
* pci device: 9490 - RV730 XT [Radeon HD 4670]
* pci device: 94c8 - RV610/M74 [Mobility Radeon HD 2400 XT]
* pci device: 9501 - RV670 [Radeon HD 3870]
* pci device: 9540 - RV710 [Radeon HD 4550]
* pci device: 9553 - RV710/M92 [Mobility Radeon HD 4530/4570/545v]
* pci device: 9583 - RV630/M76 [Mobility Radeon HD 2600 XT/2700]
* pci device: 9588 - RV630 XT [Radeon HD 2600 XT]

### AMD7000Controller.kext
* pci device: 2200 - unknown device
* pci device: 2600 - unknown device
* pci device: 6780 - Tahiti XT GL [FirePro W9000]
* pci device: 6790 - unknown device
* pci device: 6798 - Tahiti XT [Radeon HD 7970/8970 OEM / R9 280X]
* pci device: 679a - Tahiti PRO [Radeon HD 7950/8950 OEM / R9 280]
* pci device: 679e - Tahiti LE [Radeon HD 7870 XT]
* pci device: 6800 - Wimbledon XT [Radeon HD 7970M]
* pci device: 6801 - Neptune XT [Radeon HD 8970M]
* pci device: 6806 - Neptune
* pci device: 6808 - Pitcairn XT GL [FirePro W7000]
* pci device: 6810 - Curacao XT / Trinidad XT [Radeon R7 370 / R9 270X/370X]
* pci device: 6818 - Pitcairn XT [Radeon HD 7870 GHz Edition]
* pci device: 6819 - Pitcairn PRO [Radeon HD 7850 / R7 265 / R9 270 1024SP]
* pci device: 6820 - Venus XTX [Radeon HD 8890M / R9 M275X/M375X]
* pci device: 6821 - Venus XT [Radeon HD 8870M / R9 M270X/M370X]
* pci device: 6823 - Venus PRO [Radeon HD 8850M / R9 M265X]
* pci device: 6825 - Heathrow XT [Radeon HD 7870M]
* pci device: 6827 - Heathrow PRO [Radeon HD 7850M/8850M]
* pci device: 682b - Venus LE [Radeon HD 8830M]
* pci device: 682d - Chelsea XT GL [FirePro M4000]
* pci device: 682f - Chelsea LP [Radeon HD 7730M]
* pci device: 6835 - Cape Verde PRX [Radeon R9 255 OEM]
* pci device: 6839 - unknown device
* pci device: 683b - unknown device
* pci device: 683d - Cape Verde XT [Radeon HD 7770/8760 / R7 250X]
* pci device: 683f - Cape Verde PRO [Radeon HD 7750/8740 / R7 250E]

### AMD9520Controller.kext
* pci device: 67c0 - Ellesmere [Radeon Pro WX 7100]
* pci device: 67df - Ellesmere [Radeon RX 470/480/580]
* pci device: 67e0 - Baffin [Polaris11]
* pci device: 67ef - Baffin [Radeon RX 460]
* pci device: 67ff - Baffin [Radeon RX 560]

### AMD2400Controller.kext
* pci device: 94c8 - RV610/M74 [Mobility Radeon HD 2400 XT]

### AMD6000Controller.kext
* pci device: 6704 - Cayman PRO GL [FirePro V7900]
* pci device: 6718 - Cayman XT [Radeon HD 6970]
* pci device: 6719 - Cayman PRO [Radeon HD 6950]
* pci device: 6720 - Blackcomb [Radeon HD 6970M/6990M]
* pci device: 6722 - unknown device
* pci device: 6738 - Barts XT [Radeon HD 6870]
* pci device: 6739 - Barts PRO [Radeon HD 6850]
* pci device: 6740 - Whistler [Radeon HD 6730M/6770M/7690M XT]
* pci device: 6741 - Whistler [Radeon HD 6630M/6650M/6750M/7670M/7690M]
* pci device: 6745 - unknown device
* pci device: 6750 - Onega [Radeon HD 6650A/7650A]
* pci device: 6758 - Turks XT [Radeon HD 6670/7670]
* pci device: 6759 - Turks PRO [Radeon HD 6570/7570/8550]
* pci device: 6760 - Seymour [Radeon HD 6400M/7400M Series]
* pci device: 6761 - Seymour LP [Radeon HD 6430M]
* pci device: 6768 - Caicos
* pci device: 6770 - Caicos [Radeon HD 6450A/7450A]
* pci device: 6779 - Caicos [Radeon HD 6450/7450/8450 / R5 230 OEM]
* pci device: 6840 - Thames [Radeon HD 7500M/7600M Series]
* pci device: 6841 - Thames [Radeon HD 7550M/7570M/7650M]

### AMD5000Controller.kext
* pci device: 6898 - Cypress XT [Radeon HD 5870]
* pci device: 6899 - Cypress PRO [Radeon HD 5850]
* pci device: 68a0 - Broadway XT [Mobility Radeon HD 5870]
* pci device: 68a1 - Broadway PRO [Mobility Radeon HD 5850]
* pci device: 68b0 - unknown device
* pci device: 68b1 - unknown device
* pci device: 68b8 - Juniper XT [Radeon HD 5770]
* pci device: 68c0 - Madison [Mobility Radeon HD 5730 / 6570M]
* pci device: 68c1 - Madison [Mobility Radeon HD 5650/5750 / 6530M/6550M]
* pci device: 68d8 - Redwood XT [Radeon HD 5670/5690/5730]
* pci device: 68d9 - Redwood PRO [Radeon HD 5550/5570/5630/6510/6610/7570]
* pci device: 68e0 - Park [Mobility Radeon HD 5430/5450/5470]
* pci device: 68e1 - Park [Mobility Radeon HD 5430]

### AMD9300Controller.kext
* pci device: 7300 - Fiji [Radeon R9 FURY / NANO Series]

### AMD8000Controller.kext
* pci device: 4500 - unknown device
* pci device: 4600 - unknown device
* pci device: 6640 - Saturn XT [FirePro M6100]
* pci device: 6641 - Saturn PRO [Radeon HD 8930M]
* pci device: 6646 - Bonaire XT [Radeon R9 M280X]
* pci device: 6647 - Bonaire PRO [Radeon R9 M270X]
* pci device: 6650 - Bonaire
* pci device: 6651 - Bonaire
* pci device: 665c - Bonaire XT [Radeon HD 7790/8770 / R7 360 / R9 260/360 OEM]
* pci device: 665d - Bonaire [Radeon R7 200 Series]
* pci device: 67b0 - Hawaii XT / Grenada XT [Radeon R9 290X/390X]

### AMD9000Controller.kext
* pci device: 6920 - unknown device
* pci device: 6921 - Amethyst XT [Radeon R9 M295X]
* pci device: 6930 - unknown device
* pci device: 6938 - Tonga XT / Amethyst XT [Radeon R9 380X / R9 M295X]
* pci device: 6939 - Tonga PRO [Radeon R9 285/380]

### AMD4800Controller.kext
* pci device: 9440 - RV770 [Radeon HD 4870]
* pci device: 944a - RV770/M98L [Mobility Radeon HD 4850]

### AMD2600Controller.kext
* pci device: 9583 - RV630/M76 [Mobility Radeon HD 2600 XT/2700]
* pci device: 9588 - RV630 XT [Radeon HD 2600 XT]

### AMD9510Controller.kext
* pci device: 67ef - Baffin [Radeon RX 460]

### AMD4600Controller.kext
* pci device: 9488 - RV730/M96-XT [Mobility Radeon HD 4670]
* pci device: 9490 - RV730 XT [Radeon HD 4670]

### AMD9515Controller.kext
* pci device: 67ef - Baffin [Radeon RX 460]

### AMD9500Controller.kext
* pci device: 67c0 - Ellesmere [Radeon Pro WX 7100]
* pci device: 67c0 - Ellesmere [Radeon Pro WX 7100]
* pci device: 67df - Ellesmere [Radeon RX 470/480/580]
* pci device: 67df - Ellesmere [Radeon RX 470/480/580]
* pci device: 67e0 - Baffin [Polaris11]
* pci device: 67e0 - Baffin [Polaris11]
* pci device: 67ef - Baffin [Radeon RX 460]
* pci device: 67ef - Baffin [Radeon RX 460]
* pci device: 67ff - Baffin [Radeon RX 560]
* pci device: 67ff - Baffin [Radeon RX 560]

### AMD10000Controller.kext
* pci device: 6860 - unknown device
* pci device: 6860 - unknown device
* pci device: 6867 - unknown device
* pci device: 6867 - unknown device
* pci device: 687f - Vega [Radeon RX Vega]
* pci device: 687f - Vega [Radeon RX Vega]

### AMD3800Controller.kext
* pci device: 9501 - RV670 [Radeon HD 3870]

### AMDRadeonX4100.kext
* pci device: 67e0 - Baffin [Polaris11]
* pci device: 67ef - Baffin [Radeon RX 460]
* pci device: 67ff - Baffin [Radeon RX 560]

### AMDRadeonX3000.kext
* pci device: 6720 - Blackcomb [Radeon HD 6970M/6990M]
* pci device: 6722 - unknown device
* pci device: 6738 - Barts XT [Radeon HD 6870]
* pci device: 6739 - Barts PRO [Radeon HD 6850]
* pci device: 6740 - Whistler [Radeon HD 6730M/6770M/7690M XT]
* pci device: 6741 - Whistler [Radeon HD 6630M/6650M/6750M/7670M/7690M]
* pci device: 6745 - unknown device
* pci device: 6750 - Onega [Radeon HD 6650A/7650A]
* pci device: 6758 - Turks XT [Radeon HD 6670/7670]
* pci device: 6759 - Turks PRO [Radeon HD 6570/7570/8550]
* pci device: 6760 - Seymour [Radeon HD 6400M/7400M Series]
* pci device: 6761 - Seymour LP [Radeon HD 6430M]
* pci device: 6768 - Caicos
* pci device: 6770 - Caicos [Radeon HD 6450A/7450A]
* pci device: 6779 - Caicos [Radeon HD 6450/7450/8450 / R5 230 OEM]
* pci device: 6840 - Thames [Radeon HD 7500M/7600M Series]
* pci device: 6841 - Thames [Radeon HD 7550M/7570M/7650M]
* pci device: 6898 - Cypress XT [Radeon HD 5870]
* pci device: 6899 - Cypress PRO [Radeon HD 5850]
* pci device: 68a0 - Broadway XT [Mobility Radeon HD 5870]
* pci device: 68a1 - Broadway PRO [Mobility Radeon HD 5850]
* pci device: 68b0 - unknown device
* pci device: 68b1 - unknown device
* pci device: 68b8 - Juniper XT [Radeon HD 5770]
* pci device: 68c0 - Madison [Mobility Radeon HD 5730 / 6570M]
* pci device: 68c1 - Madison [Mobility Radeon HD 5650/5750 / 6530M/6550M]
* pci device: 68d8 - Redwood XT [Radeon HD 5670/5690/5730]
* pci device: 68d9 - Redwood PRO [Radeon HD 5550/5570/5630/6510/6610/7570]
* pci device: 68e0 - Park [Mobility Radeon HD 5430/5450/5470]

### AMDRadeonX5000HWServices.kext
* pci device: 6860 - unknown device
* pci device: 6861 - unknown device
* pci device: 6862 - unknown device
* pci device: 6863 - unknown device
* pci device: 6867 - unknown device
* pci device: 686c - unknown device
* pci device: 687f - Vega [Radeon RX Vega]

### AMDRadeonX4500HWServices.kext
* pci device: 7300 - Fiji [Radeon R9 FURY / NANO Series]

### AMDRadeonX4150.kext
* pci device: 67e0 - Baffin [Polaris11]
* pci device: 67ef - Baffin [Radeon RX 460]
* pci device: 67ff - Baffin [Radeon RX 560]

### AMDRadeonX4000.kext
* pci device: 6640 - Saturn XT [FirePro M6100]
* pci device: 6641 - Saturn PRO [Radeon HD 8930M]
* pci device: 6646 - Bonaire XT [Radeon R9 M280X]
* pci device: 6647 - Bonaire PRO [Radeon R9 M270X]
* pci device: 6650 - Bonaire
* pci device: 6651 - Bonaire
* pci device: 665c - Bonaire XT [Radeon HD 7790/8770 / R7 360 / R9 260/360 OEM]
* pci device: 665d - Bonaire [Radeon R7 200 Series]
* pci device: 6780 - Tahiti XT GL [FirePro W9000]
* pci device: 6790 - unknown device
* pci device: 6798 - Tahiti XT [Radeon HD 7970/8970 OEM / R9 280X]
* pci device: 679a - Tahiti PRO [Radeon HD 7950/8950 OEM / R9 280]
* pci device: 679e - Tahiti LE [Radeon HD 7870 XT]
* pci device: 67b0 - Hawaii XT / Grenada XT [Radeon R9 290X/390X]
* pci device: 67c0 - Ellesmere [Radeon Pro WX 7100]
* pci device: 67df - Ellesmere [Radeon RX 470/480/580]
* pci device: 6800 - Wimbledon XT [Radeon HD 7970M]
* pci device: 6801 - Neptune XT [Radeon HD 8970M]
* pci device: 6806 - Neptune
* pci device: 6808 - Pitcairn XT GL [FirePro W7000]
* pci device: 6810 - Curacao XT / Trinidad XT [Radeon R7 370 / R9 270X/370X]
* pci device: 6818 - Pitcairn XT [Radeon HD 7870 GHz Edition]
* pci device: 6819 - Pitcairn PRO [Radeon HD 7850 / R7 265 / R9 270 1024SP]
* pci device: 6820 - Venus XTX [Radeon HD 8890M / R9 M275X/M375X]
* pci device: 6821 - Venus XT [Radeon HD 8870M / R9 M270X/M370X]
* pci device: 6823 - Venus PRO [Radeon HD 8850M / R9 M265X]
* pci device: 6825 - Heathrow XT [Radeon HD 7870M]
* pci device: 6827 - Heathrow PRO [Radeon HD 7850M/8850M]
* pci device: 682b - Venus LE [Radeon HD 8830M]
* pci device: 682d - Chelsea XT GL [FirePro M4000]
* pci device: 682f - Chelsea LP [Radeon HD 7730M]
* pci device: 6835 - Cape Verde PRX [Radeon R9 255 OEM]
* pci device: 6839 - unknown device
* pci device: 683b - unknown device
* pci device: 683d - Cape Verde XT [Radeon HD 7770/8760 / R7 250X]
* pci device: 683f - Cape Verde PRO [Radeon HD 7750/8740 / R7 250E]
* pci device: 6920 - unknown device
* pci device: 6921 - Amethyst XT [Radeon R9 M295X]
* pci device: 6930 - unknown device
* pci device: 6938 - Tonga XT / Amethyst XT [Radeon R9 380X / R9 M295X]
* pci device: 6939 - Tonga PRO [Radeon R9 285/380]

### AMDRadeonX5000.kext
* pci device: 6860 - unknown device
* pci device: 6867 - unknown device
* pci device: 687f - Vega [Radeon RX Vega]

### AMDRadeonX4200.kext
* pci device: 67c0 - Ellesmere [Radeon Pro WX 7100]
* pci device: 67df - Ellesmere [Radeon RX 470/480/580]
* pci device: 67ef - Baffin [Radeon RX 460]
* pci device: 67ff - Baffin [Radeon RX 560]

### AMDRadeonX4250.kext
* pci device: 67c0 - Ellesmere [Radeon Pro WX 7100]
* pci device: 67c1 - unknown device
* pci device: 67c2 - unknown device
* pci device: 67c4 - Ellesmere [Radeon Pro WX 7100]
* pci device: 67c7 - Ellesmere [Radeon Pro WX 5100]
* pci device: 67c8 - unknown device
* pci device: 67c9 - unknown device
* pci device: 67ca - Ellesmere [Polaris10]
* pci device: 67cc - Ellesmere [Polaris10]
* pci device: 67cf - Ellesmere [Polaris10]
* pci device: 67d0 - unknown device
* pci device: 67df - Ellesmere [Radeon RX 470/480/580]
* pci device: 67e0 - Baffin [Polaris11]
* pci device: 67e1 - Baffin [Polaris11]
* pci device: 67e3 - Baffin [Radeon Pro WX 4100]
* pci device: 67e7 - unknown device
* pci device: 67e8 - Baffin [Polaris11]
* pci device: 67e9 - Baffin [Polaris11]
* pci device: 67eb - Baffin [Polaris11]
* pci device: 67ef - Baffin [Radeon RX 460]
* pci device: 67ff - Baffin [Radeon RX 560]
 
Could you send me your shell env ? Output should be sorted from a few commits ago ... this triggers me ! (maybe do a git pull origin master)

P.S: Also, on dev branch, I'm slowly working on a framebuffer extractor script.
 
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theitsage said:
### AMD10000Controller.kext
* pci device: 6860 - unknown device
* pci device: 6860 - unknown device
* pci device: 6867 - unknown device
* pci device: 6867 - unknown device
* pci device: 687f - Vega [Radeon RX Vega]
* pci device: 687f - Vega [Radeon RX Vega]
All of those DeviceID's are related to Vega architecture. Example:

{0x1002, 0x6860, PCI_ANY_ID, PCI_ANY_ID, 0, 0, CHIP_VEGA10},
{0x1002, 0x6861, PCI_ANY_ID, PCI_ANY_ID, 0, 0, CHIP_VEGA10},
{0x1002, 0x6862, PCI_ANY_ID, PCI_ANY_ID, 0, 0, CHIP_VEGA10},
{0x1002, 0x6863, PCI_ANY_ID, PCI_ANY_ID, 0, 0, CHIP_VEGA10},
{0x1002, 0x6867, PCI_ANY_ID, PCI_ANY_ID, 0, 0, CHIP_VEGA10},
{0x1002, 0x686c, PCI_ANY_ID, PCI_ANY_ID, 0, 0, CHIP_VEGA10},
{0x1002, 0x687f, PCI_ANY_ID, PCI_ANY_ID, 0, 0, CHIP_VEGA10},
 
### AMD9300Controller.kext
* pci device: 7300 - Fiji [Radeon R9 FURY / NANO Series]

So; do we have now "native" support on R9 cards?
 
It's unclear, but probably only basic support, and no acceleration. (Card not present in standard AMDRadeonX* kexts).
 
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According to some new leaks Vega 10 is dual 8 pin and up to 375w. We can forget the suitability of this in cMP. Even if you can mod the cables there will be too much heat build up in that terrible case unless the side panel stays off.

Apple will have their own custom versions in the pro range.
 
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According to some new leaks Vega 10 is dual 8 pin and up to 375w. We can forget the suitability of this in cMP. Even if you can mod the cables there will be too much heat build up in that terrible case unless the side panel stays off.

Apple will have their own custom versions in the pro range.
That 375W TBP is the MAXIMUM power the cooler can handle. Not the actual power consumption.
 
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I state above how much heat accumulates in a cMP. The PCIE compartment is too small and not ventilated enough unless the side case is removed. It's a system design not intended to be used with high power GPUs. Every time we violate the system design we come across something that makes the system lose appeal and aesthetics.
 
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The Vega Frontier edition has dual 8-pin connectors. That will not work for a cMP without some serious power modding (no thanks).

We really don't know what the Vega RX editions will have. I'd imagine that they would have some lower-power options if they are intended to compete with nVidia, something in the GTX 1070 range that maybe only has a single 8-pin connector. That should be no problem for a cMP as far as heat is concerned.

Good time to ask, but, is the cMP's thermal design really that bad? It has a big ass fan in the front of the PCI area of the case. And the case is pretty sizable. Sure, it would be nice to have a rear blower as well, but I don't think that makes it awful depending on the type of cooler the GPU has.

I guess that's why it's a good idea to stick to blower designs for GPUs, but that shouldn't preclude you from buying new GPUs if you can manage to get one with a blower, heat should be no problem as long as the TDP is less than 225w.
 
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