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El Capitan sooo stable!
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Once I upgraded to Cubase Elements 8, because Steinberg wouldn't release an El Cap compatible version, all works stable indeed. I'm not pleased to be forced to spend money on upgrading software to fit an operating system, but what's done is done.
It's not the first time it happened... and won't be the last. Rosetta taught us all that lesson.
I'm currently running 10.11.4 beta, and have found it incredibly stable. I have no issues.
I get frequent hangs and restarts ("frequent" = two or three times a week). But I haven't installed the latest update yet.
Same here. Particularly when I'm using Safari, the whole system will freeze for 10-20 seconds (although music continues to play). Like you, it happens a couple of times per week, but I haven't had any restarts. 2015 MBP.
My 2012 13" MBP was sluggish and beach balled a lot between Lion and Yosemite. Now with El Capitan it's fast again and feels like a new machine. It was quite annoying to have such a sluggish machine for 2 years. Now it's great again.
My Mini i7 is pretty dad burn stable under 10.11.2 too. Only crashed once this week rather than once an hour under 10.11. One thing that helped was to nix my two USB 3 hubs. Once the hubs were gone, no more dropped hard drive connections albeit I have to manually pull /n plug drives to access data or backup. I'm afraid to try 10.11.3 as it might all go downhill again...
El Crap is somewhat stable, but I'm beginning to think it's the next Lion. Too many beachballs and Spotlight takes 30+ seconds to return any search results. Apps take 20-40 seconds to open. Apple has gone too far in the direction of eye-candy and lost the simplicity of what OS X used to be.
Sounds like a faulty SATA hard drive cable to me. SATA cable in non-Retina MacBook Pro or MacBook are quite fragile.
A few friends have experienced similar issue with their non-Retina MacBook Pro. After replacing their hard drive cables, beachballs are gone and apps take 1-2 seconds to launch.
I do not have any of these symptoms. Spotlight app shortcuts show up before I can type the second letter. Photos might take all of one second to load.
I did not have any major problems with Yosemite, so none of this represents a big change, but I share the sentiment that El Capitan is stable.
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While El Capitan still has some minor glitches from place to place, they are mostly cosmetic. For me, it is stable enough for mission-critical production jobs.
I'm curious do you mean either 1: El Capitan is as stable as Snow Leopard or 2: El Capitan is as fast as Snow Leopard?
In my experience its neither 1 or 2. Its stability isn't anywhere as good as 10.6 is, I have tested all versions of 10.11.0-.3 and result is 4 kernel panics. It took over 5 years of using 10.6 for 2 panics to appear so I am not exactly impressed... Mac was tested last month by authorised Mac reseller and they didn't find anything wrong with it so I'm fairly certain problem is 10.11 (clean install and no third party software).
I have hard time believing 10.11 could be as fast as 10.6 because it has much more features which means more demands for processor time and GPU.
I suspect the problem is USB3 drivers because I have similar problems with external drives and 10.11.3 didn't help. Drives work normally when I'm using Mavericks.
Agreed. Spotlight still cant find files reliably, to add insult into injury I opened folder which contains the files I was looking for and files are clearly visible but Spotlight cant find them! Forcing Spotlight reindex helps for short time but problem happens again in a day or two, I'm starting to doubt Apples competence because I reported this when 10.11 was released and it still hasn't been fixed!
There is no way I would upgrade production Mac to a new OS until .5 update because I better things to do than try to work around bugs...
El Capitan does have potential IF Apple fixes its bugs (I have no idea what they were thinking with Disk Utility) but currently I don't see any reason to "upgrade" from 10.9.5 which forks much better for my needs.
In my experience, 10.11 is just as performant and just as stable as any other OS X release I have worked with. Which means, not 100% stable but somewhere around the top experiences one can get with a modern day OS.
However, this Snow Leopard sentimentally is really puzzling to me. Is it because the OS is so old that it became a default 'back in the old days' memory? I work with Snow Leopard on daily basis (we need to maintain a local server with legacy software) and I really don't know what people mean when they praise it as a pinnacle of OS X. Its just as fast/stable OS as 10.11 but lacks a large amount of features of the later version.
However, this Snow Leopard sentimentally is really puzzling to me. Is it because the OS is so old that it became a default 'back in the old days' memory? I work with Snow Leopard on daily basis (we need to maintain a local server with legacy software) and I really don't know what people mean when they praise it as a pinnacle of OS X. Its just as fast/stable OS as 10.11 but lacks a large amount of features of the later version.
That's not a bug, it's a feature, and I wish I was joking. I'm reduced to using the Yosemite version while being scared that it will f*** something up.
What they were thinking is that it is probably not worth the effort to implement de-facto obsolete functionality (I assume you refer to removal of RAID GUI). That said, how much would you pay for a RAID GUI app? I would write one if there is a market for it
Finally got around to upgrading to EC--of course can't say about long term problems if any but that was certainly the easiest and fastest upgrade I've done. Pretty much the same as with IOS devices.
1) An apples to oranges comparison: People compare 10.6.8 to 10.x.0 and bemoan all the problems with the newer release. Snow Leopard had two *years* worth of updates applied to it. Comparing it to an initial release (or .1, .2, .3) is unfair.
2) Selective memory: People forget that when Snow Leopard initially came out there were all the same gloom-and-doom complaints as with every new release. It took several sets of updates before it was stable. Snow Leopard Server took even longer.
3) Honest nostalgia: Snow Leopard Server really was the last complete server release from an IT perspective. Apple made a clear change of direction after that, and some people did not care for it. But it is wrong to conflate unhappiness with the corporate vision and OS instability.
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