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Engadget: MacBook Air with Penryn launch imminent?
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It is just a gut feeling. Let us see what happens on that date. If something does, great. If something does not, oh well. I have a feeling something will.
i think too many people are quick to believe this rumor because they desperately want it to be true, but the original rumor is obviously flawed-- 25W in the Air when it's already having trouble with heat dispersion? I seriously doubt that.
Of course it's more likely to be the 17W ULV processors-- but that's not what the rumor said. If the source was a good one they would've know about the ULV processors. Since one part was wrong, everything from the source must be looked at with skepticism, including the time frame.
Of course it's more likely to be the 17W ULV processors-- but that's not what the rumor said. If the source was a good one they would've know about the ULV processors. Since one part was wrong, everything from the source must be looked at with skepticism, including the time frame.
Well, seeing how my graduate school classes resume on August 26, '08, I can't afford to wait. Even if they come out with something after my purchase next week, I plan on upgrading in January '09 after the MWSF '09...
Well, seeing how my graduate school classes resume on August 26, '08, I can't afford to wait. Even if they come out with something after my purchase next week, I plan on upgrading in January '09 after the MWSF '09...
Well I've come to the same conclusion, and honestly in a month from now I'll be so oblivious to the outside world because of how insanely busy i'll be studying that I won't have time to readjust in taking notes and such. Anyway, this update doesn't seem to increase performance by a large amount and there won't be any more ports.
If the MBA does what I need from it then I probably won't upgrade until after I'm done with law school. Although I do have to say it's taking way too long for Apple to build this thing, it's goin on 4+ days now...
You convince me !!! I will reorder my Air now !!!
you are going to be a good lawyer mate according to your first reason
you are saying they will leave behind all the previous owners of the mba(early adaptors) and will continue to sell a "fixed" unit with no overheat issues?
No No. I think the overheat issues that people are having with MBA cannot be fixed without a new cpu, motherboard, etc.... But I am no expert, its just my opinion..
But for the latter, 22% off is pretty good deal !!!
The current generation of MBP has minor changes - the CPU and the multitouch trackpad. There is a world of difference in heat and fan speed due mainly to the drop in power dissapation for the Penryn vs Merom core.
Again, my guess is they will do a similar CPU switch which will cool the machine down without significant other changes. The machine won't be much faster so previous owners who don't mind the heat/fan or don't really think there is a problem to begin with - are fine.
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I expect to see a pretty nice price drop, especially if they don't tweak the internals that much.
I expect to see a pretty nice price drop, especially if they don't tweak the internals that much.
i don't think that will be happening, unless you count slightly cheaper SSD options as a price drop.
You convince me !!! I will reorder my Air now !!!
Thanks for the compliment. You should get it if you need it right away and the current one does everything you want from it. It's really hard to fight that itch for having the best possible gadget of the moment, but it comes down to boring old practicality. My mba is still in shipment, but at least now its somwhere in the states. I wish I had known about the shipping delays for a CTO (5 days plus shipping). But I supposed that is life, I did lodge a complaint for it but we all know how far that really goes.
we are then waiting until next week
We were going to buy a MBA this week but then we see all of these rumours about the Penryn/possible changes. Do any of you have enough of a history with this kind of thing to say that these kind of rumours "tend" to end be fairly accurate?
We were going to buy a MBA this week but then we see all of these rumours about the Penryn/possible changes. Do any of you have enough of a history with this kind of thing to say that these kind of rumours "tend" to end be fairly accurate?
As release dates get closer, rumors do tend to converge and appear on more sites, including those of traditional publications and organizations like the Wall Street Journal. Of course, you have to factor in what is known, such as:
1. It's been 215 days since the MBA was released, which is longer than the interval to most recent updates of Apple computers.
2. There are new processors that Apple could use in the Air.
3. Higher capacity SSDs are now available, probably at a reasonable price point, and Apple did drop the price of the SSD version not too long ago.
Does this guarantee an imminent update? No, but I'm in the market for an Air to replace my five-year-old PowerBook, and I'm planning on waiting at least another few weeks.
True. Absolutely true. It's just like geometric sequences. Convergence = Will happen soon. Divergence = Will not happen soon. And precise release dates (not MWSF, WWDC etc. but a "random" date) are also sure signs of an imminent update. Given this, I think it's fairly likely that we'll see a MacBook Air update next week ("imminent" release rumor + IDF next week rumor).
I would also say things like new product numbers and other "last-minute" signs of an update just seal the deal. Hopefully we'll see those next week.
Just came from the Apple Store in Tampa at the International Mall, and 5 sales staff denied anything was going to happen upgrade wise to the MBA, let alone anything "imminent", swore they new "nothing" about any newer,thinner MB.
WTF, I guess they have to toe the party line, but that kind of attitude just serves to piss me off.
Anywho, I did get to put the MBA through it's paces, found both the HDD and SSD versions snappy as hell,(my next purchase for the wife) drooled over the 3.0 i-Mac, (Family Christmas Present).
Outside, the line of 50 or so, waited for the new i-Phone,(mine was in my pocket)
As I was on my way out, one of the 5 that poo-pood the "rumors" came up to me an told me "don't believe anything you read/hear on MR", just leads to "disappointment"
Unbelievable!!
WTF,
I guess they have to toe the party line, but that kind of attitude just serves to piss me off.Anywho, I did get to put the MBA through it's paces, found both the HDD and SSD versions snappy as hell,(my next purchase for the wife) drooled over the 3.0 i-Mac, (Family Christmas Present).
Outside, the line of 50 or so, waited for the new i-Phone,(mine was in my pocket)
As I was on my way out, one of the 5 that poo-pood the "rumors" came up to me an told me "don't believe anything you read/hear on MR", just leads to "disappointment"
Unbelievable!!
Yeah, 1.86 / 2xUSB / SATA 64Gb SDD and I'm jumping the fence baby
I bet they realize that MBA appeals to much bigger audience, than they sell to right now.
It'll forever will remain "niche" machine (tech "forever" goes for ≈ 3 years)
Yet should they make it a little bit more useful .... and bit closer to idea of upgradeability we've come to expect (SATA HHD/SSD & maybe one RAM slot a'la PB 12" with soldered main RAM ?) - more people will realize - I can happily live with this limitations.
It's nothing unrealistic : SATA, 2xUSBs, 1 RAM slot ...
Please Apple, do it and I'm all yours
I bet they realize that MBA appeals to much bigger audience, than they sell to right now.
It'll forever will remain "niche" machine (tech "forever" goes for ≈ 3 years
)Yet should they make it a little bit more useful .... and bit closer to idea of upgradeability we've come to expect (SATA HHD/SSD & maybe one RAM slot a'la PB 12" with soldered main RAM ?
) - more people will realize - I can happily live with this limitations.It's nothing unrealistic : SATA, 2xUSBs, 1 RAM slot ...
Please Apple, do it and I'm all yours
I have even better idea
forgo USB & DVI, give us ExpressCard/34 (a'la MBP)
Then everybody can equip it to his heart's content.
Also we have proprietary USB-DVDD, so we can have proprietary, shortened ExCard/34
(to save on internal space - make it comparable to a space USB door uses)
That's an additional revenue stream for Apple - selling & franchising such cards.
Just imagine : USB, FW800, DVI, even 3G can live in it.
Some of them even together! And upgrading to USB3.0 & FW3200 will be much easier
forgo USB & DVI, give us ExpressCard/34 (a'la MBP)
Then everybody can equip it to his heart's content.
Also we have proprietary USB-DVDD, so we can have proprietary, shortened ExCard/34
(to save on internal space - make it comparable to a space USB door uses)
That's an additional revenue stream for Apple - selling & franchising such cards.
Just imagine : USB, FW800, DVI, even 3G can live in it.
Some of them even together! And upgrading to USB3.0 & FW3200 will be much easier
I have even better idea
forgo USB & DVI, give us ExpressCard/34 (a'la MBP)
Then everybody can equip it to his heart's content.
Also we have proprietary USB-DVDD, so we can have proprietary, shortened ExCard/34
(to save on internal space - make it comparable to a space USB door uses)
That's an additional revenue stream for Apple - selling & franchising such cards.
Just imagine : USB, FW800, DVI, even 3G can live in it.
Some of them even together! And upgrading to USB3.0 & FW3200 will be much easier
Why don't you send these to Jobs?
to be fair, we've only had 2 rumors of new Airs. everything else has been updated macbooks and macbook pros.
also, when you're guessing at an "update next week" I'm assuming you mean announced but not released? Because there have been absolutely no signs of a release-- product going out of stock, mysterious deliveries, etc.-- I'd say there's a 1% chance of a update available next week.
Personally, it think it's still too early to expect an update. The penryn in question hasn't been officially released yet and when it is Apple will be fighting with Lenovo for stock (supposedly same CPU in their x300 line).
Apple virtually never preannounces Macs. The only "case" I can come up with is WWDC'05, when they announced Intel switch & 1 year to transition.
(And I believe there was not once speed/cpu bump preannounced)
Yeah, that's all true. Most probably not going to happen in August.
But I can wait so I'm not nervous on "next tuesday" release, as students do.
And I'm cheering as more rumors make it more viable.