I am hoping the people who have been doing these reviews just have giant hands. Coming from both a Sidekick 3 and an 8125 [yes two providers] it will be tough to not have easy input.
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I'm sure the keyboard will take some time to get use to, but my main purpose for it won't be for texting/messaging, anyway.
He's wrong. I've used capacitive screens that seem to need a "hard press".
Part of the problem is that about 5% of the population has some problem with them. Callouses, hand lotions, long fingernails, and just plain human uniqueness all can cause difficulties.
That article has some good responses. One I like best talks about the fact that there's been touch screen keyboards on mobile devices for at least ten years. There's a good reason why the rest of the world has moved to hardware keyboards.
The good reason being that the software behind the touch screen keyboards have sucked. OSX has never been used to run one - so who knows.
Which devices are you referring to that have a capacitive screen?
Hardware keyboards add improved accuracy and speed at the cost of bulk or reduced screen size. There's no perfect system.
For text-inputting the iPhone screen isn't much if any larger than other smart phones with hardware keyboards. The only real advantage the iPhone has for text input is the changeable button layout for different applications, and I think for text input this will be of limited use.
I still covert the Nokia e90.
Casino gaming terminals. I programmed a few, that have since been used by millions of people. So I have a little experience on the topic of glass-faced screens
The touch screens couldn't be pressure sensitive because of worries about knives and other sharp objects being used. I've got a million stories about them.
Agreed. According to user wishes, the perfect handheld has a 10" screen and a full keyboard... all the size of a pack of cigarettes and thin as paper. Perhaps with the coming miniature screen projectors built into handhelds, and with that laser-projected keyboard, you'd have it. Or monitors in sunglasses and hand pickle finger keyboards.
Heh. What's funny is, the geeks DID finally triumph. The Revenge of the Nerds is that everyone now carries funny geek devices and wears silly geek headphones.
Don't forget the major point that Steve made in the original keynote. The reason hardware keypads aren't great is because they can't be changed. Once they start getting feedback, it is as easy as a firmware update to alter the size and style of the keypad. It could be changed to work in landscape mode for a larger size or changed completely.
attachable BT keyboard anyone? I think we might see something along those lines from Apple in the future after there have been some user complaints because lets face it touch screen keyboard isnt for everyon.
It does seem like a bit of a smear job. They basically picked every bad thing about it and went even further.
I call FUD.
That being said, until it hits my shiny little hands, I shall worry not.
Nothing is faster than typing on a full keyboard (like this Macbook Pro) even my Treo 680 is just "ok".
BZ
I call FUD.
That being said, until it hits my shiny little hands, I shall worry not.
Nothing is faster than typing on a full keyboard (like this Macbook Pro) even my Treo 680 is just "ok".
BZ
First it's Engadget. They LOVE to hate on Apple.
Just wait to get the iPhone in your own hands. I'm sure there will be some who don't like the keyboard, but there will be just as many who love it. It's not going to be a thing where it will be unusable with 100% of consumers.
Just wait to get the iPhone in your own hands. I'm sure there will be some who don't like the keyboard, but there will be just as many who love it. It's not going to be a thing where it will be unusable with 100% of consumers.
Really?
Engadget's one of the best technology blogs out th.... oh wait, you must be a fanboy, and they once said something bad about stevie & company. Take off the rose-colored glasses, not everyone marches in lock step with apple.
Engadget's one of the best technology blogs out th.... oh wait, you must be a fanboy, and they once said something bad about stevie & company. Take off the rose-colored glasses, not everyone marches in lock step with apple.
The point is not that it has a large screen while inputting text, it is that the keyboard space can be used as screen space for web-browsing, viewing emails, browsing music, watching video etc.
That is a huge advantage. Whether that outweighs the lack of a physical keyboard depends on your needs. Heavy texters who have little need for the other features of the iPhone and are fine listening to MP3s on their current devices are not the target market of the iPhone.
I seriously doubt they are going to change it. What is the point in having a keyboard that can change, if they aren't going to change it?
I kind of disagree and agree. For general technology, Engadget is fine. Engadget knows though that Apple stories garner their biggest interest and page views and thus the most money. Couple that with Ryan Blocks general dislike of most Apple products (hey, thats his opinion...not hating on that) and you get a general slant that is negative in my opinion.
I can almost guarantee his iPhone review will focus disproportionately on the smaller, niggly points to taint the article.
LOL, Ryan Block is far from an Apple hater. Him and Veronica Belmont both own Macbook Pro's.
Not that this says anything worth getting riled up about, but I actually had this impression too. Three somewhat suspicious things to note:
- Nothing new.
- EVERY point is a negative comment.
- ALSO, interesting, that given the demonstration of the technology on Apple's website (click here), that anyone would imply this is "resistive" (pressure based) touch screen technology and not "capacitive" (conductive).
Useful Reading:
Think "static electricity", and whether you need to press your finger HARDER to that unsuspecting vicitm, after moving about in your socks, or whether pressure isn't that relevant. Sometimes I hate watching the trouble makers out there. They usually prey on ignorance, with relatively good success.
~ CB
there are three things about this post that makes me think it isnt real....
1) its negativity, nothing nice to say about the phone, its got to have something good to talk about
2) the hard pressed for the screen (which was discussed earlier)
3) magsafe power adapter for the bt headset??? that makes no sense, magsafe was made so when someone trips on the cord it doesnt yank the electronic with it.. a bt headset doesnt have enough weight to detach from the adapter.. it makes no sense at all...
1) its negativity, nothing nice to say about the phone, its got to have something good to talk about
2) the hard pressed for the screen (which was discussed earlier)
3) magsafe power adapter for the bt headset??? that makes no sense, magsafe was made so when someone trips on the cord it doesnt yank the electronic with it.. a bt headset doesnt have enough weight to detach from the adapter.. it makes no sense at all...
Right. When everything is positive it's true.
That's not surprising. They said it ignores unintended touches.
Actually it makes perfect sense. It would just snap into place.
Who asked for it to be completely positive??
It would make sense if there were some positives and some negatives...Ryan Block owns a lot of products and I would damn well expect the editor of the biggest gadget blog on the net to own a Mac in order to conduct its reviews. That does not take from the fact that he is generally negative towards Apple both in his articles and on the Engadget podcast. He will always poo poo the iPod and the Apple TV for instance, for whatever Archos or Sansa device he is using at that time. Thats fine, and personal opinion, but I feel most of it is wanting to be a balance to a lot of the media love Apple gets. Which is not being objective. I also have to be wary about the large amount of advertising money Microsoft pays to Engadget and take that into consideration.
Secondly, I didn't say he was a hater. Please dont put words in my mouth.
Thirdly, everybody knows Veronica is an Apple fan. What is your point? That couples have to like everything the same?