Espresso Enthusiasts

[Kissaragi]

Heres an interesting thread about resting coffee for anyone interested.

http://www.home-barista.com/coffees/why-coffee-needs-to-rest-before-making-espresso-t1289.html

 

[Shrink]

Heres an interesting thread about resting coffee for anyone interested.

http://www.home-barista.com/coffees/why-coffee-needs-to-rest-before-making-espresso-t1289.html

Really interesting thread!! Thanks for the link.

Although I read the "anti-aging" comments, and can't really argue from an informed position, the majority opinion holds that resting is called for. While, of course, this could be ultimately proven wrong, for the moment I will go with the conventional wisdom and continue resting my beans after roast.

While accepted practices and wisdom can be changed with the proper proven data, being a complete ignoramus regarding the cited chemistry, I'll have to wait and see the proof that the long held practice is wrong. It certainly could happen....

Thanks again for the link...

 

[Kissaragi]

Really interesting thread!! Thanks for the link.

Although I read the "anti-aging" comments, and can't really argue from an informed position, the majority opinion holds that resting is called for. While, of course, this could be ultimately proven wrong, for the moment I will go with the conventional wisdom and continue resting my beans after roast.

While accepted practices and wisdom can be changed with the proper proven data, being a complete ignoramus regarding the cited chemistry, I'll have to wait and see the proof that the long held practice is wrong. It certainly could happen....

Thanks again for the link...

Ive never roasted my own so the freshest coffee ive had is around 24 hours old. Think the majority of people prefer coffee aged a little bit tho.

 

[ijohn.8.80]

Heres an interesting thread about resting coffee for anyone interested.

http://www.home-barista.com/coffees/why-coffee-needs-to-rest-before-making-espresso-t1289.html

Thanks Kissaragi, very interesting to hear the thought that 75% of CO2 may leave during grinding. I'll have to speak to the resident Micro-Biologist/Wife about this.

I'm only on the second page, but no mention of what occurs to the oils as yet, fingers crossed.

 

[ijohn.8.80]

For Shrink's travels...

Shrink, I just stumbled upon this a short while ago and thought of you travelling to your brothers place deprived of your espresso.

Nomad The Go Everywhere Espresso Machine by UniTerra

It's a Kickstarter product that has already met funding, but you may be able to wangle one if you get in contact with the creators. I love that it's 100% manual and probably as good if not better than many espresso machines out there!

Here's a bad picture of it. The lever on the top right is what you pump like a seesaw to move your liquid extraction.

It's only 6"x6" in size, so could possibly be small enough to take with you, wherever you travel.

 

[Kissaragi]

Not sure how far they will get with that as theres already other products that do the same thing. It is cool tho and a nice design.

 

[Shrink]

Shrink, I just stumbled upon this a short while ago and thought of you travelling to your brothers place deprived of your espresso.

Nomad The Go Everywhere Espresso Machine by UniTerra

It's a Kickstarter product that has already met funding, but you may be able to wangle one if you get in contact with the creators. I love that it's 100% manual and probably as good if not better than many espresso machines out there!

Here's a bad picture of it. The lever on the top right is what you pump like a seesaw to move your liquid extraction.

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It's only 6"x6" in size, so could possibly be small enough to take with you, wherever you travel.

Thanks for the find!!!

If I decide to get something to take with me for visits to sister (one sibling is enough!! No brother...) this goes on the list of possibles. I avoid visits like the plague...after an hour of talking about the weather, my head explodes...but when a visit becomes unavoidable, I will take something to make espresso with me. I can get out of the murderously boring conversations with..."I need to make some coffee"!!

 

[Kissaragi]

Thanks for the find!!!

If I decide to get something to take with me for visits to sister (one sibling is enough!! No brother...) this goes on the list of possibles. I avoid visits like the plague...after an hour of talking about the weather, my head explodes...but when a visit becomes unavoidable, I will take something to make espresso with me. I can get out of the murderously boring conversations with..."I need to make some coffee"!!

Your sister would fit in very well in Britain. The weather is our favourite topic

 

[Shrink]

Your sister would fit in very well in Britain. The weather is our favourite topic

Um...if you would like to take her over there, you would have my undying gratitude!! At least with the daily phone call, I can make an excuse to end the conversation. But when I visit...OY!!

Sorry all...no more OT posting.

On topic...I'm going to be tasting that Sumatran I roasted a few days ago. I'll probably get to it this afternoon, I have a bit of my current roast to finish.

 

[ijohn.8.80]

Not sure how far they will get with that as theres already other products that do the same thing. It is cool tho and a nice design.

I'd never seen anything like it before and thought it was quite cute, in a minimalist (or should that be cubist?) way.

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Thanks for the find!!!

If I decide to get something to take with me for visits to sister (one sibling is enough!! No brother...) this goes on the list of possibles. I avoid visits like the plague...after an hour of talking about the weather, my head explodes...but when a visit becomes unavoidable, I will take something to make espresso with me. I can get out of the murderously boring conversations with..."I need to make some coffee"!!

You are welcome Shrink. Sorry for the mixup regarding siblings, I have an appalling memory in some regards and I'm not quite old enough to blame the 60's.

 

[Shrink]

You are welcome Shrink. Sorry for the mixup regarding siblings, I have an appalling memory in some regards and I'm not quite old enough to blame the 60's.

No worries, Mate! (Note pathetic attempt by Yank to sound like an Aussie!!)

We must be close in age, because my college and grad school years were all in the 60's...so seriously burnt out brain cells is my excuse, too!!

 

[Shrink]

OK, I know you all have been waiting, anxiously and with incredible anticipation, for my review of the Aged Sumatra Aceh Pwani - 2007 Vintage beans I recently slightly over roasted. Not eating, not sleeping...just waiting for me to post.

Well, let me start with an apology. I don't have the taster"s nomenclature down at all (..."slightly musty, with apricot and leather overtones, and the gentle finish with a hint of toenail clippings..."). I guess I have a fair palate, but limited vocabulary.

First, it's different from ANY coffee I have had before. There is absolutely no "bite"...it very smooth. It is not knock-you-down strong, but very complex. The cupping review I read said it is "peppery" on first sip..not too bad a description. It's so different from other coffees I have had, it's almost not like coffee, but an interesting different drink. It's really earthy.

I just went back to the cupping review for help in describing this stuff, and came upon the below, which said it is hard to describe, so I don't feel so bad...

This coffee is unique too because many flavors are sapid but difficult to pin down, and many occur on the palate, in the range between bittering and savory, rather than volatile aromas that are sensed in the olfactory. It's an interesting experience, this Aged Sumatra Aceh, and one you might find infinitely pleasing ... or maybe not.

It's been about 1/2 an hour since I drank it, and I still have a bit of a very pleasant aftertaste going.

I need to adjust the grind a bit, it extracted a bit too fast.

So, I need to try some more to decide if I really like it or not. It sure is different, and I'll be interest to see how I feel after going through the first 1/2 pound I roasted. I also will try to lighten up the roast when I do my next roast of the stuff.

 

[S.B.G]

I was telling my dad about the espresso machine I have and he asked if that's the stuff he tasted in France in the late 1960's. He said he and some Army guys stopped off for coffee and all they sold at this place was espresso. So he tried it and once he tasted it, he spit it back out because as he put it, "it tasted like mud". LOL

Dad doesn't like espresso.

 

[Shrink]

I was telling my dad about the espresso machine I have and he asked if that's the stuff he tasted in France in the late 1960's. He said he and some Army guys stopped off for coffee and all they sold at this place was espresso. So he tried it and once he tasted it, he spit it back out because as he put it, "it tasted like mud". LOL

Dad doesn't like espresso.

It's an acquired taste...I guess.

Of course, if he was used to Army coffee...well...

I hesitate to ask, but what kind of coffee does your Dad drink now?

 

[S.B.G]

I hesitate to ask, but what kind of coffee does your Dad drink now?

Your hesitation to ask comes with the appropriate amount of prudence. I dare not blaspheme this thread with the type of coffee he does drink.

 

[Shrink]

Your hesitation to ask comes with the appropriate amount of prudence. I dare not blaspheme this thread with the type of coffee he does drink.

Say no more. Your respect for the sensibilities of the members of this thread speaks volumes about your class!!

Maybe when your Dad next visits, you could make him a latte, maybe even with some flavoring stuff in it. Don't tell him it's an espresso based drink...and perhaps he will enjoy it.

This, of course, does not suggest he will change his "coffee" habits...but just to make a gentle point.

 

[S.B.G]

Say no more. Your respect for the sensibilities of the members of this thread speaks volumes about your class!!

Maybe when your Dad next visits, you could make him a latte, maybe even with some flavoring stuff in it. Don't tell him it's an espresso based drink...and perhaps he will enjoy it.

This, of course, does not suggest he will change his "coffee" habits...but just to make a gentle point.

Precisely what I had intended to do the next time he visits (which isn't very often). I won't make him a straight espresso, but a latté instead, which with the sweetness of the extra flavoring I add, he should enjoy.

 

[Shrink]

Precisely what I had intended to do the next time he visits (which isn't very often). I won't make him a straight espresso, but a latté instead, which with the sweetness of the extra flavoring I add, he should enjoy.

Straight espresso would taste much too much like actual coffee, and he's not used to that right now. But a latté, all spruced up with flavoring, just tastes like a wonderful hot "fountain" drink.

Then spring it on him...or not, depending on how he takes being "tricked".

 

[S.B.G]

Then spring it on him...or not, depending on how he takes being "tricked".

I know dad far too well and he *does not* like being tricked. It's akin to lying to him, an anathema and an abomination.

If he says it tasted like mud to him in the 60's, then I am willing to bet my life that it still tastes like mud today.

 

[Shrink]

I know dad far too well and he *does not* like being tricked. It's akin to lying to him, an anathema and an abomination.

If he says it tasted like mud to him in the 60's, then I am willing to bet my life that it still tastes like mud today.

Yup, forget that idea!!

 

[S.B.G]

I'm still wanting a drip coffee maker.

I'm looking at this one by Cuisinart and it seems to have a lot of good reviews on Amazon.

Cuisinart DGB-625BC Grind-and-Brew 12-Cup Automatic Coffeemaker, Brushed Metal

Video

Looking for opinons on this or another programmable grind and brew coffee maker.

EDIT: I'm not totally sold on the grind & brew either (Shrink). I'll still likely get a separate burr grinder too.

 

[Shrink]

I'm still wanting a drip coffee maker.

I'm looking at this one by Cuisinart and it seems to have a lot of good reviews on Amazon.

Cuisinart DGB-625BC Grind-and-Brew 12-Cup Automatic Coffeemaker, Brushed Metal

Video

Looking for opinons on this or another programmable grind and brew coffee maker.

EDIT: I'm not totally sold on the grind & brew either (Shrink). I'll still likely get a separate burr grinder too.

I'm sure others can give you much better advice than I can on these machines. I checked all my usual coffee equipment sites (other than Amazon)...nada.

I did find this comparison review...you might give it a look.

 

[S.B.G]

I'm sure others can give you much better advice than I can on these machines. I checked all my usual coffee equipment sites (other than Amazon)...nada.

I did find this comparison review...you might give it a look.

Thanks for the site. I now have a new favorite.

Hamilton Beach 48464 Brewstation Summit 12-Cup Programmable Coffeemaker

 

[ijohn.8.80]

Shrink have you seen this device?

 

[Shrink]

Shrink have you seen this device?

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Yep, saw it.

Actually, this is the one I really like!! I think it can be had for less on a US site...just too lazy to look for that site right now!

Thanks much for the suggestion.