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arkitect said:
I'll hazard a guess.

CA = Central American (Though CA usually means California.)
SA = South American (Could be South Africa, but I don't think they're huge coffee growers.)

I may be I'm wrong, but I do sometimes wish people would try to spell things out, at least the first time it is referred to in an article…
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Thank you.

As I knew that CA is often used (by Americans) as an abbreviation for California, - and California is not a coffee growing region - I wasn't sure what to make of the post.

And, in our part of the world, a bullock is a male member of the bovine species who has been deprived of that which might have made him reproductively active, and hence - as a consequence - is usually raised for beef.

However, I doubt that this is what @Zenithal had in mind when he used the word.
 
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Scepticalscribe said:
Thank you.

As I knew that CA is often used (by Americans) as an abbreviation for California, - and California is not a coffee growing region - I wasn't sure what to make of the post.

And, in our part of the world, a bullock is a male member of the bovine species who has been deprived of that which might have made him reproductively active, and hence - as a consequence - is usually raised for beef.

However, I doubt that this is what @Zenithal had in mind when he used the word.
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I think he meant bollocks. :)
 
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Scepticalscribe said:
Thanks - but I am (was) pretty sure that is what he meant.

Having said that, there are many other adjectives lying around - nice, descriptive ones - with which one can describe a foul tasting cup of coffee.
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Wow, of all things to pop into my head reading that an old Peanuts (one of my favourite cartoons and much deeper than most think) strip. Linus brought his sister Lucy some hot chocolate and asked her how it was - she said it was terrible like someone dipped a brown crayon in warm water. Linus tastes it, and agrees, then he says "I'll go put in another crayon".

All to say I've tasted coffee like that, not here in Europe more often in North America. Here I have had coffee that tastes like someone poured bitter ash in the cup (Starbucks) or just bitter with no aroma.
 
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decafjava said:
Wow, of all things to pop into my head reading that an old Peanuts (one of my favourite cartoons and much deeper than most think) strip. Linus brought his sister Lucy some hot chocolate and asked her how it was - she said it was terrible like someone dipped a brown crayon in warm water. Linus tastes it, and agrees, then he says "I'll go put in another crayon".

All to say I've tasted coffee like that, not here in Europe more often in North America. Here I have had coffee that tastes like someone poured bitter ash in the cup (Starbucks) or just bitter with no aroma.
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Oh, yes, Starbuck's.

Well, I will admit to liking the ambience of the place. A Starbuck's is usually comfortable, and fairly elegantly laid out.

But - to be quite candid, as has been discussed here endlessly - the coffee - and coffee is what a coffee shop should be judged on - is quite, perfectly, awful.
 
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Far from tasting like testicles, I've had some quite tasty coffee from Sidamo.
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Scepticalscribe said:
Oh, yes, Starbuck's.

Well, I will admit to liking the ambience of the place. A Starbuck's is usually comfortable, and fairly elegantly laid out.

But - to be quite candid, as has been discussed here endlessly - the coffee - and coffee is what a coffee shop should be judged on - is quite, perfectly, awful.
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Not only is the coffee hot acidic charcoal water, but they roll through Africa lying to, manipulating, and exploiting the local coffee farmers.
 
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Scepticalscribe said:
Agreed.

But I still prefer Yirgacheffe.
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Actually, this (coffee) is one of the few cases where I've developed a strong and overriding preference for a very specific style/origin. Whereas I have wider interests in beer, wine, and cheese (for example), I'm in agreement with you that Yirgacheffe is by and far my preferred coffee.
 
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Starbucks is garbage for the most part, much like some types of coffee such as the aforementioned. The only merit some of their beans have is what we, as coffee drinkers, would get, but at a higher premium. 12 oz of third-wave quality would set you back $30-50 whereas it would cost around $20. The majority consumer of Starbucks are people who'll get a mixed coffee drink that may contain 1-3 oz of coffee and the rest water, sugar, milk or cream, and other excess consumables.
 
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Zenithal said:
Starbucks is garbage for the most part, much like some types of coffee such as the aforementioned. The only merit some of their beans have is what we, as coffee drinkers, would get, but at a higher premium. 12 oz of third-wave quality would set you back $30-50 whereas it would cost around $20. The majority consumer of Starbucks are people who'll get a mixed coffee drink that may contain 1-3 oz of coffee and the rest water, sugar, milk or cream, and other excess consumables.
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Indeed. Agreed.

And on that note, off to prepare some paper coffee.
 
Zenithal said:
Paper coffee? Is that the Chemex or the Japanese pour over brew dripper you recently purchased?
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Oops. Mea culpa.

A typo, and that wretched auto-correct which sometimes re-writes words I have written. To my chagrin, I never subject posts to preview before pressing send.

Not "paper coffee" although I did use the dripper (two drippers) to prepare coffee for the substitute carer and myself (a ceramic Hario dripper, and a lovely Japanese copper one - they each user a different type of filter paper, as it happens).

No. I meant to write "proper" coffee.
 
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Just had a lovely cup of Arabica coffee, "Lazy Sunday" from Taylor's of Harrogate. It was as it says on the pack, "laid-back and lovely". I used on tablespoon of beans, ground them quite coarsely (still not sure about the grind for cafeteria coffee) and let brew for 4 minutes. Then, a dash of whole milk (makes all the difference). A nice smooth drink. Lovely!
 
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Dave Meadows said:
Just had a lovely cup of Arabica coffee, "Lazy Sunday" from Taylor's of Harrogate. It was as it says on the pack, "laid-back and lovely". I used on tablespoon of beans, ground them quite coarsely (still not sure about the grind for cafeteria coffee) and let brew for 4 minutes. Then, a dash of whole milk (makes all the difference). A nice smooth drink. Lovely!
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Agree about the whole milk, it does make a difference.

Have just had a lovely pot of freshly ground coffee: The pot: Le Creuset, the mugs, likewise, the coffee, a blend of Kenyan and Ethiopian.
 
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Easier to post a few pics. There is one that might be of interest to you. "White Mulberries" at Katherine docks London who state "The Ethiopian espresso from Dark Arts is great".
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Having some delicious sencha with some dried coconut preserve. Will be making coffee in an hour. Hopefully it solves the twitch in my left ring finger. It's been there since yesterday afternoon. Woke up this morning to feel myself tapping my head. Like a Chinese water torture. Yeesh.
 
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