Where? How are these people getting these surveys? I never see anything like this. Are they asking their friends and family or what? All android users i would imagine. No one with an iPhone wants this.. Madness. So sick of EU trying to destroy Apple products. They should have no power over a company not in the EU.
By mail? We will see as I would love to answer it.
Europeans: iMessage is not a thing here. It's barely used. Everyone already use WhatsApp and other cross-platform tools, unlike Americans.
Also Europeans: iMeSsAgE hAs A mOnOpOlY hErE
lol, nobody is talking about monopoly. We have 400 million citizens. About 100million iOS users and the DMA require 45 million monthly active end users established or located in the EU.
Still blows my mind that they check each service individually. I previously thought that once you are a „gatekeeper“, it counts for all the services as a whole within that company but looks like the EU is literally checking the amount of users of each service? Sounds like a ridiculous amount of work.
Why not just do …
Apple has X users (as a whole) and therefore considered a „Gatekeeper“ and thus their services such as iMessage and AppStore etc have to comply, otherwise the term doesn’t make any sense? They’d have to call it „Apple AppStore Gatekeeper“ since apparently not everything within „Apple“ is „gatekept“.
Because it would be incredibly unfair to do that. Just because Apple the company is a gate keeper doesn’t mean all their services are gatekeeping the market.
Just how the iPad, Mac, AppleTV, watches etc are not significantly enough impact on the market.(
see attachment)
This is what happens when the incompetent bureaucratic public sector pokes it's red tape laden nose into the real world of business , chaos ensues
No, this is the wrong interpretation when you don’t understand the purpose behind the law. To actually be fair instead of using broad strokes.
One way of looking into it would be what patents they could kill off, companies do try to avoid paying others for use of intellectual property when they can... Maybe the EU could develop and release to the public an open source/free to use , feature rich and secure system that everyone could adopt, then it being open source, the corporations will utilise it especially if they don't have to make payments to a rival...
That’s not EUs job. They don’t invent things.
This.
iMessage is hardly a monopoly. WhatsApp. Telegram. Signal. WeChat.
There are so many options out there, and unlike browsers they are largely unrestricted by iOS. Use whatever you like, but calling iMessage a monopoly is nonsense. No one needs the RCS protocol - it would be nice to unify around one messaging app but if you just need to establish basic communications SMS is fine.
RCS and sms aren’t compliant
- Where a gatekeeper provides number-independent interpersonal communications services that are listed in the designation decision pursuant to Article 3(9), it shall make the basic functionalities of its number-independent interpersonal communications services interoperable with the number-independent interpersonal communications services of another provider offering or intending to offer such services in the Union, by providing the necessary technical interfaces or similar solutions that facilitate interoperability, upon request, and free of charge.
I have a sneaking suspicion is it really only the carriers that want RCS to succeed - since it is meant to replace SMS, which has largely been superseded by standard internet data protocols, it’s a revenue stream they’d like to restore….
It has nothing to do with monopoly as a monopoly isn’t an illegal thing. Its interoperability between dominant services
According to the European Commission
a dominant position is “a position of economic strength enjoyed by an undertaking which enables it to prevent effective competition being maintained on the relevant market by affording it the power to behave to an appreciable extent independently of its competitors, customers and ultimately of its consumers”.
A dominant position is not in itself an infringement of EU competition law, and the holders of such positions are allowed to compete on merit, like any other company.
However, a position of dominance confers on the undertaking a special responsibility to ensure that its conduct does not distort competition.