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It says that you can not sell phones without USB-C charge connection from late 2024 and onwards.
So if apple wants to sell the previous generations of iPhone by then, they need to have USB-C. So I hope they will add it next year. But knowing Apple, they probably wait until the very last moment and then just adjust the current lineup to comply with the laws.
Apple will definitely exploit the move to USB-C as much as they can by firstly making it exclusive to Pro iPhones initially and probably only implement it for the rest of the line-up at the very last possible moment maximising the chances of consumers buying outdated Lightning devices and then having to upgrade in late 2024 or 2025 unless they want to remain in the Lightning for iPhones + USB-C for every other product hell moving forward.
 
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Terrible news. This will stifle innovation and competition. For example, it will limit the desire to create connectors that are more efficient, faster, cheaper, easier to use than USB-C.

It will also increase costs for everyone because USB-C is significantly more expensive to implement than micro-USB or USB-A for cheap devices.

In addition, now we have to throw away countless e-waste from lightning cables, lightning chargers, and lightning accessories.

Once again, EU government is stepping into things that they shouldn't have. Thanks to them, I've had to click on cookie prompts at least 10,000 times already and I honestly could careless if websites used cookies.

I'm not against Apple using USB-C on all your devices. They're slowly getting there regardless. I'm against this kind of regulation because it will have unintended consequences.
I agree with your general point: This is a is mistake and governments have no business regulating something like this. It will stifle innovation and frankly I prefer Lightning connector to USB-C. But as for your point regarding the EU and cookie prompts, the companies have intentionally done this in the most awkward way possible to make it look like a burden. What they want is not to have to ask your permission at all to track everything you do online, which was how it was before the EU stepped in. Frankly I think they should simplify things further and ban cookies and other forms of surveillance capitalism, but that's just me.
 
So EU thinks that USC-C is an ultimate connection that will not evolve beyond its current state? I don't care for Lightning or else but this is shortsighted Bollocks.
 
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In addition, now we have to throw away countless e-waste from lightning cables, lightning chargers, and lightning accessories.
This will just result in more e-waste.
I don't think they actually care about e-waste. Creating a common port seems to be a bigger deal than e-waste.
What if Apple come up with even better port than usbC like they did when they came with lightning while the standard was microusb ?!
The first iPhone with two charge ports, one USBC and one Lightning 2.0, side by side 😂
 
Terrible news. This will stifle innovation and competition. For example, it will limit the desire to create connectors that are more efficient, faster, cheaper, easier to use than USB-C.

It will also increase costs for everyone because USB-C is significantly more expensive to implement than micro-USB or USB-A for cheap devices.

In addition, now we have to throw away countless e-waste from lightning cables, lightning chargers, and lightning accessories.

Once again, EU government is stepping into things that they shouldn't have. Thanks to them, I've had to click on cookie prompts at least 10,000 times already and I honestly could careless if websites used cookies.

I'm not against Apple using USB-C on all your devices. They're slowly getting there regardless. I'm against this kind of regulation because it will have unintended consequences.
Can you please point to me the massive I/O innovation that the EU is preventing Apple from implementing? What exactly have they done to upgrade the Lightning ports on its portable devices apart from briefly doing a USB 3.0 version of Lightning (for iPads Pro) and then ditching it entirely for its most capable, most "Pro" devices, iPads Pro, and opting for the cross-compatible USB-C/Thunderbolt on MacBooks and iPads?

I keep hearing the EU-USBC-naysayers bemoan supposed stifling of amazing I/O innovation and yet there's not a single port or cable standard on the horizon being implemented by any company that isn't some iteration of USB-C/Thunderbolt.

Show me the tech, show me the individual or company that's presenting us with this tech that's just so efficient and superior to any iteration of USB-C that it makes the E.U.'s regulation look like the crime that you're alleging it is. WHERE IS THE INNOVATION??

Besides adopting USB-C for a limited selection of its own products, Apple has only put out new iterations of MagSafe for Watch, iPhone and MacBooks. But MagSafe, while way more convenient, doesn't offer any improvements on data transfer speeds or charging speed/efficiency. In fact, MagSafe only carries power so it's not even an actual I/O.

In other words, Apple has put out ZERO new I/O tech in 10+ but instead opted to stick to its inferior, outdated USB 2.0 port, Lightning.

What innovation is the E.U. keeping Apple from implementing?

You can't just refer to some abstract "innovation" without showing us something tangible, a product, a new I/O standard.
 
Hope not. Because transfering raw photos and 4k videos wirelessly is sloooow.
I guess that's true if you don't use some sort of cloud photo library or need an immediate transfer to your computer and have an old wireless setup. Wifi 5 & 6 speeds are around 1 Gbs.

I'd guess that most people don't spend much time thinking about transfer speed. The photos and videos are just synced in the background and available where you need it.
 
reduces electronic waste? throwing a lightning cord away wouldn't be electronic waste?
Imagine 10 consumers who live ten separate lives. All of them go out and buy a bunch of new Apple and new non-Apple products but none of the product boxes come with chargers or cables.

But all 10 consumers happen to buy at least 1 Apple product with a Lightning port.

Now, instead of just being able to by one, single cable that charges all the products, the 10 consumers have to each buy at least 1 USB-C cable and 1 Lightning cable.

That's 20 cables instead of 10. When the cables wear out eventually, that will be 20 cables in the landfill instead of just 10.

And then add 10 additional cables on top of that if each consumer gets an Apple Watch.

We have to make a hard transition and 2024 is the year that this happens. Lightning can finally get Apple's stamp of "vintage" just as all its other 2012 products.

*No, the same argument can't be made in defense of Apple because its not even consistent on ports itself -Apple uses both USB-C, Lightning, and Magsafe, so you can't just stick to Lightning and be set.
 
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Can you please point to me the massive I/O innovation that the EU is preventing Apple from implementing? What exactly have they done to upgrade the Lightning ports on its portable devices apart from briefly doing a USB 3.0 version of Lightning (for iPads Pro) and then ditching it entirely for its most capable, most "Pro" devices, iPads Pro, and opting for the cross-compatible USB-C/Thunderbolt on MacBooks and iPads?

I keep hearing the EU-USBC-naysayers bemoan supposed stifling of amazing I/O innovation and yet there's not a single port or cable standard on the horizon being implemented by any company that isn't some iteration of USB-C/Thunderbolt.

Show me the tech, show me the individual or company that's presenting us with this tech that's just so efficient and superior to any iteration of USB-C that it makes the E.U.'s regulation look like the crime that you're alleging it is. WHERE IS THE INNOVATION??

Besides adopting USB-C for a limited selection of its own products, Apple has only put out new iterations of MagSafe for Watch, iPhone and MacBooks. But MagSafe, while way more convenient, doesn't offer any improvements on data transfer speeds or charging speed/efficiency. In fact, MagSafe only carries power so it's not even an actual I/O.

In other words, Apple has put out ZERO new I/O tech in 10+ but instead opted to stick to its inferior, outdated USB 2.0 port, Lightning.

What innovation is the E.U. keeping Apple from implementing?

You can't just refer to some abstract "innovation" without showing us something tangible, a product, a new I/O standard.
That's a silly demand. Apple isn't going to announce what innovation they would have come up with without the EU regulation. The EU is basically ending competition for ports. Future changes will be decided by a standards body. This will undoubtedly slow innovation. If Apple planned something to replace lightning after a decade, they would have dropped the project because of the impending regulation.

IMO, this is all for show. Short term pain for no long term benefit. Because the next major innovation in "ports" will be to get rid of the ports.
 
Just because its USB-C doesn't mean it will be USB-3 speeds or higher. Likewise, I had a Lightning iPad that was able to get USB-3 speeds just fine.
 
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Imagine 10 consumers who live ten separate lives. All of them go out and buy a bunch of new Apple and new non-Apple products but none of the product boxes come with chargers or cables.

But all 10 consumers happen to buy at least 1 Apple product with a Lightning port.

Now, instead of just being able to by one, single cable that charges all the products, the 10 consumers have to each buy at least 1 USB-C cable and 1 Lightning cable.

That's 20 cables instead of 10. When the cables wear out eventually, that will be 20 cables in the landfill instead of just 10.

And then add 10 additional cables on top of that if each consumer gets an Apple Watch.

We have to make a hard transition and 2024 is the year that this happens. Lightning can finally get Apple's stamp of "vintage" just as all its other 2012 products.

*No, the same argument can't be made in defense of Apple because its not even consistent on ports itself -Apple uses both USB-C, Lightning, and Magsafe, so you can't just stick to Lightning and be set.
In your scenario, but with my current setup, I'd be throwing out a bunch of lightning cables and USB-A chargers and buying new USB-C cables and chargers.
 
Apple will go the Nintendo route and have USB C but if you use anything other than the official chargers you will risk bricking the device because it will have poor negotiation. Oh you used an Anker charger and the port died? $300 repair charge. You should always use a Apple approved charger.
Nah, Apple has adopted the standard USB-PD fast charging even with lightning. This is the part where I have to give them credit, for actually adopting a standard right away, unlike the various Android OEMs who are making their own fast charging proprietary methods.
 
They'll have to start using UBC-C next year, as to keep the previous iPhone generation on sale in 2024, 2023's phones will need to have UBC-C.

Ditto the SE.
 
I guess that's true if you don't use some sort of cloud photo library or need an immediate transfer to your computer and have an old wireless setup. Wifi 5 & 6 speeds are around 1 Gbs.

I'd guess that most people don't spend much time thinking about transfer speed. The photos and videos are just synced in the background and available where you need it.

Try pushing a ProRaw file around.

Wi-Fi speeds are theoretical and generally never meet the theoretical
 
I agree with your general point: This is a is mistake and governments have no business regulating something like this. It will stifle innovation and frankly I prefer Lightning connector to USB-C. But as for your point regarding the EU and cookie prompts, the companies have intentionally done this in the most awkward way possible to make it look like a burden. What they want is not to have to ask your permission at all to track everything you do online, which was how it was before the EU stepped in. Frankly I think they should simplify things further and ban cookies and other forms of surveillance capitalism, but that's just me.
Businesses don't make and sell their products to consumers in a vacuum that has no impact on societies or the environment at large.

So when governments represent the opinions of citizens and take measures that will, in the long-term, lower e-waste generation and ensure consumers can use and reuse chargers and cables across brands and devices, in their own homes or with colleagues, without arbitrary limitations set by companies like Apple, then governments are wrong for not stepping in and regulating.

Apple doesn't have to do what the E.U. dictates: It can just can buy a tiny island and move all its business and proprietary, arbitrary ports and charging tech there. No consumers or governments to bother it there but also nobody to peddle its useless Lightning cables to.

Either way, we all win.
 
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