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Apple’s greed has (once again) screwed us all. Lightning is both mechanically superior and electrically-comparable to the Type C connector system. Apple foolishly decided to keep the connector system proprietary while participating in the USB Implementors Forum… they could have given Lightning to humanity, but instead chose to profit from a “walled garden” accessory ecosystem. It is as simple as that: greed.

I have dozens of 30-pin devices, dozens of Lightning devices, and now 3 Type C devices. The failure rate of the 30-pin system was greater than Lightning, by a noticeable margin. I personally have never had a Lightning port failure, only plug or cable failure (less expensive cable-side “repair”), and Lightning port failures I have seen on client devices have been overwhelmingly from physical misuse (dropping directly on a plugged-in device or carelessness), obstruction (pocket lint), or electrical damage (using damaged cables or cheap charger blocks), with legit port failure only a handful of times (and usually always covered under warranty). HOWEVER, of my three Type C devices, two have already had their Type C ports replaced under warranty; and I have seen similar failure rates over the past 5 years with client Apple “Pro” devices. It isn’t even close, Lightning is far superior to Type C in my experience. (Which makes sense, Lightning is a 1x mechanically simpler system.)

Thanks, Tim Apple, for your greed, and the greediness of the Exec team you’ve surrounded yourself with… you’ve made us all worse off. You obviously didn’t even listen to your own engineers, much less push their connector system out to humanity when you had the opportunity. Monumentally stupid. #NotMyApple
You are absolutely misguided here. Apple proposed a USB Type C solution, including the Lightning one. The USB foundation fought for 7 years over what to do, and Apple gave up.
 
In before diehards scorn the EU then praise Apple when they introduce USBC to all its products.

Looks like I’m already too late.
With Apple & the Faithful singing "Apple was going to go to USB-C" anyhow without the EU mandate
 
What next? EU demands all phones have an EU flag displayed at boot up?
No wonder the EU is increasingly unpopular.
This is only within the EU market, but of course many if not all companies don't want one version of connector just for the EU market and another for the rest of the world.

It's not so unusual for a region to dictate standards within its market. As I understand, cars sold within the US have to have certain tail lights in a fixed part of the car (typically the fender area) and cannot rely solely on lights that are mounted to the trunk lid. You'll see that same model cars sold in the EU and US sometimes have tail lights in slightly different areas because of the US market requirement.
 
Easy! Just eliminate all the ports, and sell wireless changing deck with USB-C separately.
Problem solved!
 
USB-C seems perfectly fine to keep it. Just like we don't need new wall plugs.
The only way i can see things improving is wirelessly. And i don't mean stuck to the desk wireless, but really wireless. And this is not preventing that.

We don't need new wall plugs because we're not changing the size and build of our electrical outlets to fit smaller and smaller walls. And yeah, we don't even have a global standard for that in over 200 years.

The fact that you think that what you can see improving is the limit of what can improve is exactly why this is the wrong direction. The Type C connector has a host of issues, and the size is STILL one of them. Do you know how many iterations of USB Type B there were? Over the past 20 years, Apple has used 2 connectors. You cannot say the same for any of the other smartphone manufacturers. Most of them have used more than 5 different connectors in the same time frame, some of them had more than 5 at one time on their different models, and some of them used more than 20 over an 8 year period. The industry moved to USB Type C on its own, it finally got there. Now the industry should decide what and when the next connector will be, and the EU shouldn't even be part of the discussion.

True wireless charging is so far away you might as well be talking about flying cars becoming the standard. All wireless charging is inefficient as well, in a world where we're looking to reduce energy consumption, it's not going to fly as the standard anyway. By the time that happens, we will have had to have moved to renewables worldwide and decide we have gone at least 10-15% beyond the world's energy usage. Don't expect to see that in your future children's lifetimes.
 
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Unless that company is forced to be in that country or economic area, they are free to leave if they are not happy. No one is infringing on their freedom if they are not forced to be there. Rules can be particular to a certain country for many reasons (economic, safety and so on). For example, cars made in the EU that are sold in the UK must have headlights with the beams adjusted for driving on the right side of the road. I find this to be normal and not an infringement on the freedom of the manufacturers.

Considering you are not in the EU, my first thought is to respectfully ask you to stay in your lane and direct your time and energy into convincing Apple to make future iPhones with a Lightning port instead of USB-C and sell them where you live.

Ahh yes, because we're all buying cars from the same factories in China on a yearly basis. The world needs a single standard, the EU shouldn't be dictating it. It would be counterproductive to everyone involved if there were multiple versions of phones for every region based on local laws. So as far as staying in a lane, you're really not staying in your own.
 
Just how is it more flexible to mandate a single port? Isn't that the opposite of flexible?

If EU got what they wanted about 10 years ago all phones would be required to use micro-USB. What about when a new, stronger and smaller connector comes around and nobody can use it because of a law?

I'm all for Apple going USB-C even though I like the lightning connectors solid feel more, but for politicians to decide what ports a device have to use to get power is a slippery slope that risks holding back innovation. This time it's USB-C and most people are happy but what's next?

Let's not kid ourselves. Corporate greed is not what drives innovation. On the other hand, most developed countries are mandated by their constitution to devote resources and have a science and research yearly budget.

The intention of the EU directive is to unify a fragmented market, under one connector. The point is to have a unified connector, not to lock us specifically to USB-C. And creates a frameworks where updated technologies can be implemented, as long as they are done in sync with other manufacturers and adhere to laws relating to interoperability and openness. The directive also mentions considerations for future technologies.

 
And exactly how will that ball ever get rolling? May as well close up shop on the USB Foundation, since the EU will determine the direction.
I am guessing that the large manufacturers will keep developing the USB-C until they start to see the limits of the connector or diminishing returns that do not make financial sense. They will work and develop a connector that will meet their requirements and submit the new proposal to the legislators.

This is not hard at all. It would be easier if you and the rest of people getting upset at this would say what really bothers you/them. I seriously doubt it's the technical aspect of a connector. Some people are desperately trying to make this discussion about politics.
 
You can still have an opinion on any countries rules, and those rules are still infringing on the freedom of a private company. I would oppose this regulation if it were the American government doing it, Japan doing it, I don't care.

I'm in my 20's and do not live in the EU. My iPhone is one of my only devices that doesn't use USB-C and it would make my life easier as well, so would a new law where they steal a rich persons money and give it all to me; doesn't make it moral. There are many bad things that could make your life easier.
What’s that freedom of a private company principle you talk about? Countries have rules, you can obbey them or leave the market.

Should companies be allowed to do all they wanted to do, no restrictions whatsoever? Is that what you’re saying?
 
The only reason the iPhone 15 Pros are getting it this year instead of next is because Apple wants the lead time to make 2023 iPhone seem ‘special’ before all other products get it throughout 2024.
 
I am guessing that the large manufacturers will keep developing the USB-C until they start to see the limits of the connector or diminishing returns that do not make financial sense. They will work and develop a connector that will meet their requirements and submit the new proposal to the legislators.

This is not hard at all. It would be easier if you and the rest of people getting upset at this would say what really bothers you/them. I seriously doubt it's the technical aspect of a connector. Some people are desperately trying to make this discussion about politics.

They're not at all developing USB Type C anymore, they're manufacturing it. You completely overestimate how this foundation comes to decisions, it usually takes them FAR longer than it should because they are already their own bureaucracy. And the foundation practically disbands until someone puts forward a suggestion. In this case, it was Apple that was pushing forward to USB Type C. The same goes for eSIMs. It was almost 10 years ago when Apple started the push for eSIMs.

I've been a proponent of USB Type C since 2009. Literally every purchase I make is predicated on whether or not it has a USB Type C connector. I watched the EU almost force MicroUSB on everything, when MicroUSB could not even do half of what a Lightning connector could let alone USB Type C, and that should tell you plenty about how "easy" this really is.

What really bothers me is that I'm a technologist, I am constantly looking forward to what will be next to improve upon technology. I'm a liberal, a progressive, and a US government employee. Nothing here from my political leanings aligns with my concerns. I'm FOR government regulation. But all of these years in government has also taught me that once laws are built around things, they nearly always end up bumping against something unexpected. And fixing those laws, when it comes to technology, will not get the attention it needs unless it's a current hot button issue. In five years or so when these officials in the EU inevitably move on to other appointed or elected positions, it will not be the priority for their replacements to keep an eye on the tech world. It COULD go that way, but it likely won't, and any promise that it will is not able to be kept in a democracy.

So, I've been waiting forever for Apple to move iPhone to USB Type C. I've been patient, as I know this is far bigger issue for them than the people here who think they're making a fortune off of selling a connector seem to realize. It's not nearly as simple as what is on the surface here. I'm extremely pleased that we're finally at the point that iPhone will have it...but after 14 years or so of following this connector, I'm already starting to look at 2030. Where will this go in another 10 years when this connector, which really wasn't even the best the foundation could come up with, starts to show its limitations?
 
The only reason the iPhone 15 Pros are getting it this year instead of next is because Apple wants the lead time to make 2023 iPhone seem ‘special’ before all other products get it throughout 2024.
All other products? Are you aware of what Apple products are even left that don't have USB Type C?
 
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