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yoink

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If it's a toss-up between the 680GTX and K5000 even at the crazy gouged prices (really for both) for a card that's going in a 5,1 we hope to move out of our A edit bay and into our B edit bay (with the god-I-hope-so-announcement of a new Mac Pro) it seems like the 680GTX is a better bet for now, especially to replace a Quadro 4000.

The K5000 could go into the *new* machine (and the 680 might still beat it at some tasks.... figures.)

I just wish we could get better After Effects/CUDA benchmarks.
 

Tesselator

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http://www.evga.com/articles/00730/

Not seeing anything about a release date, but it looks to be identical to their regular GTX 680 cards.

NVidia PDF said:
REQUIREMENTS
  • Mac Pro (Early 2008) or later.
  • [Models: MacPro3,1 or later] with PCI Express® 2.0 slot.
  • Mac OS X v10.8.3 or later.
Awesome news! http://www.evga.com/products/pdf/02G-P4-3682.pdf

So what happens when we put this card in a MacPro1,1 upgraded to 2,1 with 64bit EFI running ML 10.8.3, it just works? I forget, does the MP1,1 have PCIe 2.0 ports or is it all 1.x ?

And to power it what, just split the single 6-pin MB connector using a Y-cable?
 
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jav6454

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Coolness, how about the power requirements? (Sorry, I edited my post while you were replying..)

That I know off, all Mac Pros come with a 960W PSU, that should be enough. In regards to enough connectors, not sure on that. I do know many users drain power from a DVD drive to accomplish 2x 8-pin connections (I'm not 100% sure what's free in the MP PSU).
 

Tesselator

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That I know off, all Mac Pros come with a 960W PSU, that should be enough. In regards to enough connectors, not sure on that. I do know many users drain power from a DVD drive to accomplish 2x 8-pin connections (I'm not 100% sure what's free in the MP PSU).

By looking at the 3D view of the card on that NVidia page it looks like it has two 6-pin connectors. I believe the MP1,1 PSU is plenty strong enough - even to run two of these cards (three would be pushing the limits but probably still doable power-wise), but it's just how to go about connecting it up. I dunno how the mac pro 1,1 PSU's rails are arranged? If the PSU is a single rail design then I guess I can just Y the cable but if it's separate rails then I guess I would need to pull from different areas?
 

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I believe the MP1,1 is 2.0. Saw a post not to long ago about this.

This is 100% incorrect.

1,1 and 2,1 are PCIE 1.0

3,1 has 2 slots at PCIE 2.0 and 2 @ 1.0

It is 4,1 and later that have PCIE 2.0 on all 4


Seems like a winner if that's true. The 7950 disaster didn't even support two.

The Mac 7950 runs 4 displays just fine. I have one from Saphire here now, runs 4 with ease, provided that 2 are MDP or DP.
 

Tesselator

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This is 100% incorrect.

1,1 and 2,1 are PCIE 1.0

3,1 has 2 slots at PCIE 2.0 and 2 @ 1.0

It is 4,1 and later that have PCIE 2.0 on all 4

So what happens when you put a PCIe 2.0 or 3.0 device in a 1.x slot? It just runs slower? How much of a hit are we talking about? Also on the power thing, just a Y-cable is fine for two 6-pin connectors on a MP1,1?
 

jav6454

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This is 100% incorrect.

1,1 and 2,1 are PCIE 1.0

3,1 has 2 slots at PCIE 2.0 and 2 @ 1.0

It is 4,1 and later that have PCIE 2.0 on all 4

Thank you, I based that information on a post here. At any rate, being PCIe 1.0 doesn't matter as the card will just run at PCIe 1.0 speeds. Just like 3.0 on a 2.0 and so on.
 

xav8tor

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Looks like no mini displayport = fail

How is that a fail? A ten buck cable takes care of it. I'm using one right now and it has never been a problem. Also many professional Mac Pro users are using monitors with DP, not MDP input on an ACD.
 

goMac

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How is that a fail? A ten buck cable takes care of it. I'm using one right now and it has never been a problem. Also many professional Mac Pro users are using monitors with DP, not MDP input on an ACD.

It's only got one DP connection, which is a minor fail. If you've got two Cinema Displays this card is a problem.
 

dakhein

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How is that a fail? A ten buck cable takes care of it. I'm using one right now and it has never been a problem. Also many professional Mac Pro users are using monitors with DP, not MDP input on an ACD.

I have one too the point is that to call itself a "Mac Edition" and NOT directly out of the box work with a Apple's own display is what I call fail. You can get that feature easily on Radeon PC and Mac products (Sapphire 7950 Mac Edition has TWO mini displayports). We know it exists on nVidia hardware but in this generation I've only seen it on a 690 (search of Newegg).
 
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MacVidCards

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Which makes me "utter fail" when I think about the amount that I have actually spent on video cards for my favorite machine :(

Well, you can always buy an iMac, and you'll never HAVE to update your GPU again.

The Mac K5000 comes with the $8 cable as did the Q4000 before it so I would imagine that the GTX680 will as well. One less thing to cry about.
 

ActionableMango

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It's only got one DP connection, which is a minor fail. If you've got two Cinema Displays this card is a problem.

That's a complete deal-breaker for people with two ACDs.

But it's not a problem at all for everyone else.
 

goMac

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That's a complete deal-breaker for people with two ACDs.

But it's not a problem at all for everyone else.

Sure, but my next likely display configuration happens to be two ACDs. If you don't care about gloss but are a pro user (I know), they're some of the best displays on the market. And hopefully the new ACDs are similar to the iMac and reduce the gloss.

This card was looking super attractive until I saw that, but likely I'm not buying those displays until my next machine anyway.
 
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Macsonic

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I'll wait for lab tests or reviews on this to find out it's performance and if it's worth its price tag. Hope it's good.
 
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