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AbSoluTc

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Tell me about it. I have 4 authentic Apple lightning cables and all of them are frayed.

Stop using them as jump ropes and you won't have a problem. I have 3 cables from when lightning was first introduced that I am still using. No issues.

Problem is people don't take care of them. They bend and twist them while using the phone when it's plugged in. They yank on the cable when unplugging it instead of connector itself. It's no wonder they don't last.
 

Armen

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Stop using them as jump ropes and you won't have a problem. I have 3 cables from when lightning was first introduced that I am still using. No issues.

Problem is people don't take care of them. They bend and twist them while using the phone when it's plugged in. They yank on the cable when unplugging it instead of connector itself. It's no wonder they don't last.

I'm not one of those people. The one in my car is in terrible shape and it's never rolled up, coiled or yanked. up to 5" of the casing is missing with the braided metal showing. No idea how that is possible considering it just sits in my car.
 

Act3

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Stop using them as jump ropes and you won't have a problem. I have 3 cables from when lightning was first introduced that I am still using. No issues.

Problem is people don't take care of them. They bend and twist them while using the phone when it's plugged in. They yank on the cable when unplugging it instead of connector itself. It's no wonder they don't last.

Sorry to continue with this off topic discussion in this thread but...

http://www.apple.com/shop/product/MD818AM/A/lightning-to-usb-cable

Over 1000 reviews (over 50% of the total reviews) give it one star on the apple site. That is alot of people using them for jump rope, lol.
The cable is poor quality for the price they charge for it. I have some micro usb cables from walmart that cost a few dollars that hold out better.

I'd rather see the headphone jack stick around for functionality/convenience.
 
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AbSoluTc

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Sorry to continue with this off topic discussion in this thread but...

http://www.apple.com/shop/product/MD818AM/A/lightning-to-usb-cable

Over 1000 reviews (over 50% of the total reviews) give it one star on the apple site. That is alot of people using them for jump rope, lol.
The cable is poor quality for the price they charge for it. I have some micro usb cables from walmart that cost a few dollars that hold out better.

I'd rather see the headphone jack stick around for functionality/convenience.

Like I said, the number one reason these don't last is abuse. People treat them like they are made of titanium, don't care and treat them like crap. I see it every day, day in and day out. When people say they don't do that, I tend not to believe them because I can watch them do it right after they say they don't.

They unplug the cable by pulling the cord itself. Yanking it right out. That over and over will make it last a month if that. People leave the phone plugged in and while it's plugged in, use the phone. Twist it, bend it, twist it again, over and over. The cord gets twisted, they don't care. They then yank it out.

Stuff just doesn't break because. It breaks because of abuse. Those usb cables are also 10x thicker than a lightning cable. If Apple were to include that you would have people go OMG!!!! ITS SO THICK APPLE - zeeeOMGwhy???? #applefail #cordgate

Fraying is the result of constantly bending the cord at harsh angles. Over and over again. That's all it is.
 

Suckfest 9001

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Good riddance:

- It's 50 year old technology
And it's still the most widely used audio standard, and all serious headphones come with it and only it.

- Not having the headphone jack will allow Apple to make to the iPhone 7 even thinner
Yes because I totally want my phone to be even more like a bar of soap and have even more tragic battery life

- Many people are transitioning over to wireless headphones for the convenience.
These people are the ones that couldn't care less about lossless audio. Thanks but no thanks

- Expect new wireless ear pods to debut by Apple that may or may not use sensors to determine the position of your head. why?

So if you're listening to a track and hear a specific instrument in the left ear if you turn your head left the instrument will pan to the middle and eventually to the right ear if you keep turning. What live music is supposed to sound like.
No offence but that's the worst idea since Ping. I don't want to keep turning my head a specific direction because the earphones keep screwing with the balance. I do hope you're just joking with this post, and more specifically with this point.

then again, this is the "magical" Apple in my head. Tim Cook's Apple may just remove the jack and charge $29 for a lightning > headphone jack adapter and stop shipping with headphones altogether to save 20 cents.

Edit:

-removed statement about lack of headphone jack making waterproofing the device easier.


Here is an article: http://www.reuters.com/article/ny-fmi-idUSnBw156453a+100+BSW20150915
All this is is Apple being ~edgy~ and taking a gamble on what common technology standard they should get rid of and make proprietary. Except they're not simply pulling a Floppy here; there's nothing more widespread and nothing better than the 3.5mm standard. Forcing us to use their dumb probably 39.99 dollar adapters if we want to listen to music in good quality is typical of Apple in my opinion, and is another step in furthering themselves from the power user crowd. Now they're more interested in making fashion toys than functional devices that work for you.

So they're effectively taken the battery out and given us an ugly case with a battery hump, they're taking out the 3.5mm and giving us an ugly inconvenient adapter... What's next? Making the screen an external accessory that you plug in? Stop making the phone thinner. Nobody out there is upset about the "fatness" of the iPhone. In fact, the most comfortable iPhone they made was the 3G/3GS. It sat in the hand just right and had the perfect feel to it. Now these phones are sharp and thin and slippery and pretty much unusable without a case, but they still want to keep going? And in the process they're going to get rid of the most popular portable audio standard in the world? Apple pls get serious
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Like I said, the number one reason these don't last is abuse. People treat them like they are made of titanium, don't care and treat them like crap. I see it every day, day in and day out. When people say they don't do that, I tend not to believe them because I can watch them do it right after they say they don't.

They unplug the cable by pulling the cord itself. Yanking it right out. That over and over will make it last a month if that. People leave the phone plugged in and while it's plugged in, use the phone. Twist it, bend it, twist it again, over and over. The cord gets twisted, they don't care. They then yank it out.

Stuff just doesn't break because. It breaks because of abuse. Those usb cables are also 10x thicker than a lightning cable. If Apple were to include that you would have people go OMG!!!! ITS SO THICK APPLE - zeeeOMGwhy???? #applefail #cordgate

Fraying is the result of constantly bending the cord at harsh angles. Over and over again. That's all it is.
That's totally wrong by the way. Apple's cables have historically been a joke in terms of longevity. I've been through many lightning cables that all eventually die for the same reason: the wiring getting exposed at the edges. I don't ~mistreat~ them or whatever excuse you want to grant Apple here. I simply plug in plug out and that's it. You'll just have to accept that the reason they have horrid ratings is because people use them as they regularly use cables and yet they're falling apart very quickly. It's not like you're the only one who apparently knows how to ~treat cables just right~ and everybody else online are a bunch of savage cable abusers.

On the contrary, and interestingly, their EarPods are well made and have lasted me over a year and they frankly go through a lot more usage/abuse. I know a crap cable when I see one and when a cheap Chinese MFi cable has been in service in my car for 3 years in temperatures going from -40C to +40C without a single problem, while Apple Official Lightning Cables can't seem to last over 6 months next to my bed in comfortable room temperature then there's clearly something wrong with Apple's cables.
 

AbSoluTc

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That's totally wrong by the way. Apple's cables have historically been a joke in terms of longevity. I've been through many lightning cables that all eventually die for the same reason: the wiring getting exposed at the edges. I don't ~mistreat~ them or whatever excuse you want to grant Apple here. I simply plug in plug out and that's it. You'll just have to accept that the reason they have horrid ratings is because people use them as they regularly use cables and yet they're falling apart very quickly. It's not like you're the only one who apparently knows how to ~treat cables just right~ and everybody else online are a bunch of savage cable abusers.

On the contrary, and interestingly, their EarPods are well made and have lasted me over a year and they frankly go through a lot more usage/abuse. I know a crap cable when I see one and when a cheap Chinese MFi cable has been in service in my car for 3 years in temperatures going from -40C to +40C without a single problem, while Apple Official Lightning Cables can't seem to last over 6 months next to my bed in comfortable room temperature then there's clearly something wrong with Apple's cables.

If you're cables only last 6 months, you're doing it wrong. Can you explain why I have lightning cables from day 1 when they were introduced with the iPhone 5 and I have no issues with them? I use them daily. I have two in my car and have been in there for 4 years, used weekly over that time. No issues.

I would love to see how you all plug, unplug and use your cables on a daily/weekly basis. I'm pretty sure you're not as careful as you say you are.
 

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If you're cables only last 6 months, you're doing it wrong. Can you explain why I have lightning cables from day 1 when they were introduced with the iPhone 5 and I have no issues with them? I use them daily. I have two in my car and have been in there for 4 years, used weekly over that time. No issues.

I would love to see how you all plug, unplug and use your cables on a daily/weekly basis. I'm pretty sure you're not as careful as you say you are.
Cables aren't supposed to be ~handled with finesse~, they're meant to be used by real people in the real world, not at Starbucks with medical gloves in a sterile environment with microscopic precision. Form over function has been the theme of this thread so I guess thanks for bringing cables into the discussion because that's exactly the problem with them. Maybe the cable lasts for gentle souls but for everyone else in the world it's horrible. Like I said, I treat my cheap knockoff cables much worse and they've lasted over 6 times as long at this point and show no signs of deterioration. If we're paying 1300 for a new phone (yes that's what they actually have the guts to charge for these up here in Canada) we'd like cables that are at least on par with China's offerings. Hell it's probably being manufactured a few blocks down from Foxconn, why not sneak in a new partnership because apparently Apple couldn't be bothered.
 

acorntoy

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that could be many things, and I don't see the word "jack" there. Maybe that is for checking if anything is plugged into headphone jack, possibly to mute the built in speaker if something is?
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Where you get that from? How many iphones and ipods did Apple sell this past year? It is my opinion many of those people just use what came with their device, and probably is alot of wired ear buds out there, many more than the most people that have wireless ones.

Not sure what the headphone jack has to do with waterproofing? Is the lightning jack going away too ?

Actually when lightning first came out on the 5 I remember hearing it was waterproof. This wasn't during the official announcement but several months later when Apple was starting to certify the first MFI Lightning products they let it slip. It was on macrumors it's where I saw it.

http://www.cultofmac.com/200445/lig...ers-have-to-be-as-ethical-as-apple-to-use-it/

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Here's cult of Mac on it. So it would be much easier for Apple to waterproof by removing the audio jack and using lightning.
 

masands

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The next iPhone will not run iOS 9 so why do some thing like that in the code for iOS 9 and no wait to iOS 10?

Wait so you are suggesting that Apple is planning to remove the headphone jack from all current models with an iOS update?

Holy ****!
 

LovingTeddy

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I am ready to throw iPhone under the bus when that happens. I have at least 6 Android phone from Nexus 6P to Moto E, the last thing I am worrying about is phone. If Apple really dropping 3.5mm headphone jack, then iPhone 6S is my last iPhone. The last thing I want is lightning headphone that is not compatible with anything other than iOS devices.
 

Armen

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I am ready to throw iPhone under the bus when that happens. I have at least 6 Android phone from Nexus 6P to Moto E, the last thing I am worrying about is phone. If Apple really dropping 3.5mm headphone jack, then iPhone 6S is my last iPhone. The last thing I want is lightning headphone that is not compatible with anything other than iOS devices.

What are you going to do when other phone manufacturers follow Apple on this? You won't even consider wireless headphones?
 

LovingTeddy

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What are you going to do when other phone manufacturers follow Apple on this? You won't even consider wireless headphones?

Believe or not, there are still Windows laptop with DVD drive and there are laptop with more than 2 USB ports. I don't think all Android manufacturers will follow the suit. As long as there is demand for phomr with 3.5mm, there will be phone aviliable.

Look, I am sure some other cool technology will replace 3.5mm in the future, but only open standard will success. Not lot of peoe will buy a set of headphone only works with iPhone.

And to answer your question: no I am not looking for buying wireless headset. Bluetooth headphones does not offer similar sound quality as wired headphone and I don't want charge my headphone.
 
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Dieseldk

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It is in testing right now and iOS 10 isn't ready yet..?
iOS 10 is probably as ready for test as an iPhone 7 whit no mini jack.
I'm not saying iPhone 7 will have a mini jack I just don't think this code is prof that it don't will
 

Act3

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Apple no doubt has a running Alpha version of iOS 10 internally in their labs. So, still no reason to include code in iOS 9 for no headphone jack.

maybe the 4" rumored model coming out in the spring will be without a headphone jack
 

steve62388

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If you're cables only last 6 months, you're doing it wrong. Can you explain why I have lightning cables from day 1 when they were introduced with the iPhone 5 and I have no issues with them? I use them daily. I have two in my car and have been in there for 4 years, used weekly over that time. No issues.

I would love to see how you all plug, unplug and use your cables on a daily/weekly basis. I'm pretty sure you're not as careful as you say you are.

Can you explain why any other brand of cable lasts longer than an Apple original despite treating it like crap?
 
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