If I bought the edition watch and cost me a few grand I would definitely want the option to upgrade the chip and still keep my old case. I can't see this as an option for the sport because if it did cost $300 to upgrade the chip, most would pay the extra $50 to have a totally new watch. If I pay $3K for a watch upgrading the chip for $300 would be well worth it.
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Then you had never (and probably would never) own a piece of jewellery. If you do, I apologize, but you need to remember...
First and foremost, people need to get rid of the preconception that Apple Watch is just a high tech gear (I blame those cheap Android wears for this).
Apple does not nor will they try to sell Watch as a piece of technology device, but rather as an expensive jewellery. Most of the complains in this forum stem from 1 basic assumption: AppleWatch is same as AdroidWear.
It is not. It is a jewellery. It competes with Tag Heur, Rollex, and the likes. And you don't replace those watch every 10 years, let alone every year. With 1 exception. Apple gives you ability to upgrade the Tech gut inside.
If this is their strategy, I think this is the next Apple HiFi. Apple is not a luxury brand. They are not high end. This watch has next to nothing in common with those brands. I don't believe Apple will try to push this as high end, luxury, jewelry. To me, that just seems silly. But hey, I could be wrong!
Thanks.
I mean, I may be buying into the marketing hype, but let's be honest: Apple is always very careful with their message, and there's a reason tis is being presented the way it is. Apple is deliberately making these comparisons for a reason, and coming up short in something as important as the longevity ("timelessness") of the device would invite some major negative comparisons--negative comparisons that they could easily avoid by just not presenting the device the way they are.Oh, I agree completely. Apple would have you bring it in for service by their certified technicians, just like with any other part replacement. Just because Apple might make it upgradeable/modular does not mean they'll let go of their control.
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Clearly, you haven't been paying attention.
They're making a GOLD watch.
They hired Burberry's CEO.
They hired people from Swiss watchmaking companies.
They invited fashion journalists to the unveiling.
They showed it off at a major French fashion show.
They had it modeled in China's Vogue magazine.
This is very much being treated as a fashion accessory in addition to being a wristbound computer. There's no getting around that. Is it competing with high-end luxury watches? No, it's not in that tier. But it's definitely a "high-end" product compared to Apple's normal standards.
Will they fail? Maybe. But Apple didn't make this move without doing their homework and hiring the right people. So I won't bet against them.
Thanks DC Wallaby - you wrote it so clearly than myself
That's exactly my point. It's difficult to predict how successful AppleWatch will be since we only know half the facts of the product itself. Apple has been very careful in every steps to ensure people know about it and yet not enough to limit any expectations. I suspect they don't really mind about Android Wears (since AppleWatch will be very different than those) and they don't really care what people think of it either (most people have said they are not interested so far). It's likely that Apple is very confident on this one.
I really really agree with DC Wallaby, and I had never thought of any of this before!! It is a piece of jewellery, a highly personal item. I form emotional attachments to my watches... As do many people to their jewellery.
I'll be very interested to hear what Apple does. Hopefully it is upgradable as for once Apple would be giving some advantage to the consumer.
I'll be very interested to hear what Apple does. Hopefully it is upgradable as for once Apple would be giving some advantage to the consumer.
Wow, this is the first I'm hearing about this but I'm very intrigued for sure. I'm not sure that it sounds like something Apple would do, but who really knows.
apple are going to have to be very careful with the refresh cycle time of this watch too short and at the prices they are asking i really can't see it being a huge success too long and if its not well received from day one then it won't be sold in large numbers
personally however i think it will be a success and will blow away other smart watches what we don't know yet is how successful it will be in apple terms
personally however i think it will be a success and will blow away other smart watches what we don't know yet is how successful it will be in apple terms
I absolutely agree, they will need to bring the price down dramatically as soon as the 2nd generation if they want this to continue to be a massive success. As a new product, we know it'll sell very well at first. But at $350, I do feel it'll be a tough sell to the average, non-tech geek consumer. I can see them bringing it down to $250 and maybe even $199 within 2-3 years.
But why? Fashion changes are arbitrary or maybe seasonal. People so vain and obsessed with the latest will buy whatever, whenever. The rest of the sane will continue to use what they have until it doesn't suit them any longer.
This whole notion that product and software cycles need to be long just so people can always have the latest drives me crazy. People need to get over themselves.
The watch indeed any of apples products are time limited, we see that in product sales, we see iPhone sales slump as we approach a new release. Which ever way you look at this the watch is first and foremost a piece of techno (its very limited without an iPhone) the fashion angle is nothing more than a selling tool Apple are using to justify the price, and you have fallen for it
As fashion goes there are more fashionable watches out there
Yes i will be buying one probably the watch but I'm a bit of a gadget guy but i also like a decent watch.
I haven't fallen for anything. This entire thread is about how the watch is somehow different. That was the basis of my question, not what I believe. I think it's a gadget and there isn't much value outside of the convenience and novelty. Some on here think the watch will run up to $15K. My gut says no way but we'll see soon enough!
The Watch should not be compared to other Apple products, such as an iPhone for example.
When a new Watch model comes out, if you buy it, your don't have to stop wearing the old one. In fact, you could have as many different
Watch models as your money can buy and use them depending on your mood/clothes/occasion.
Just as with any other brand that makes watches, new models won't necessarily replace the old ones. They will just become part of the collection.
In this context, upgradable battery/internals would make sense.
When a new Watch model comes out, if you buy it, your don't have to stop wearing the old one. In fact, you could have as many different
Watch models as your money can buy and use them depending on your mood/clothes/occasion.Just as with any other brand that makes watches, new models won't necessarily replace the old ones. They will just become part of the collection.
In this context, upgradable battery/internals would make sense.
The Watch should not be compared to other Apple products, such as an iPhone for example.
When a new Watch model comes out, if you buy it, your don't have to stop wearing the old one. In fact, you could have as many different
Just as with any other brand that makes watches, new models won't necessarily replace the old ones. They will just become part of the collection.
In this context, upgradable battery/internals would make sense.
If Apple either takes too long to bring out the 2nd iteration, or the 2nd iteration isn't enough of an upgrade to make the 1st gen seem old fashioned, they will get hammered by reviewers and other manufacturers. I don't care what the marketing spin says. Apple is a tech company and the
Watch is a tech device. Tech devices get abandoned as new, faster, shinier models are introduced. I would love to be wrong, but I don't see the Watch changing that in any way. I also don't think Apple believes it will. I think you are falling for the famous Apple marketing.My guess is Apple know they will sell almost exclusively the Sport. The SS and Edition will be there as high margin cash grabs. This could change if the Stainless is priced to sell.
apologies i agree its a gadget sadly for me I'm a gadget guy and worse still an apple gadget guy so I'm screwed, i dread to think how much of the stuff i have
For me i think that the watch will start at £499 GBP (north of $700) and then u pay more for the leather or metal straps
I agree $15K for an apple watch not a hope in hell for that u would want a serious top of the range either that or you have more money than sense
sadly i haver the money burning a hole in my pocket and no doubt so have many others and apple knows this
after this purchase however that will be it i think i have every product category you can have iPhone, iPad, iPod, mac mini, time machine
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If Apple either takes too long to bring out the 2nd iteration, or the 2nd iteration isn't enough of an upgrade to make the 1st gen seem old fashioned, they will get hammered by reviewers and other manufacturers. I don't care what the marketing spin says. Apple is a tech company and the
My guess is Apple know they will sell almost exclusively the Sport. The SS and Edition will be there as high margin cash grabs. This could change if the Stainless is priced to sell.
i think the obvious upgrade would be increased battery performance and increased memory to run bigger apps and make the watch less dependant on the iPhone. Also if it had a killer feature, non invasive blood glucose monitoring, they will fly off the shelf.
As it stands it highly probable that they will out sell within the first 2 months what all the other smart watches combined have sold over the last 2 years.
Will apple pull it of course they will
I think anyone that subscribes to this idea really hasn't thought it through.
What benefits would replacing the S1 with an S2 do? Cook tipped his hat at D10 a few years back, there is going to be an explosion of sensors in the wearable market. Replacing the brain of the watch won't suddenly allow it to do things that are definitely coming down the road such as read skin temperature, blood O2 levels, glucose, etc.
Replacing the brain without a way to interact with the new limbs doesn't make any sense, business or otherwise.
What benefits would replacing the S1 with an S2 do? Cook tipped his hat at D10 a few years back, there is going to be an explosion of sensors in the wearable market. Replacing the brain of the watch won't suddenly allow it to do things that are definitely coming down the road such as read skin temperature, blood O2 levels, glucose, etc.
Replacing the brain without a way to interact with the new limbs doesn't make any sense, business or otherwise.
agree totally also these units are IP67 (or something like that) which means they are factory sealed they are not going to be opening these in Apple stores and run the risk of associated warranty issues if its not done correctly
i think there will be tweaks and improvements but i can't see step changes without changes to the watch itself to accommodate more sensors
A crystalift is all it takes to open an IP67 watch. This is a simple to use tool that all jewelry stores have.
I agree with JayLenochiniMac on the Trade-in's. I trade my iPhones and IPads in and get around a hundred to buy the new.
By the same percentage a Editotion Watch would get a lot better amount, maybe in the thousands, back to help buy a new one?
I agree, but I think it's plausible that if the S1 can be replaced, then the means of access to that chip can be upgraded as well. That is, in this scenario, I'm assuming that the back cover (containing the sensors) could be designed with future upgrades in mind.
Looking at the Apple watch design, you will not be able to use a Crystalift on it.
There is no edge for the device to get a hold of.
Perhaps it's been designed for a suction device to pull it apart.