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[OT] some forum observations

Originally posted by stcanard
This has been gone over so many times I'm sick of hearing the mis-information.

start-button+D does not come anything close to expose because it does not remember which apps were not minimized after you open something from the desktop. That is the whole point of expose. It remembers everything about your window placement

Without that feature "show desktop" is useless to expose's core audience, those of us who have a workflow that requires large numbers of open windows.

Do a search and you can find long threads discussing this exact issue.
Uhh, any helpful suggestions what to search for that would make it easier to find what you're referring to?

Forum searching is arguably most effective if you're looking for something you've previously read or written. Otherwise it easily becomes tedious and time consuming since topics and discussions are often so loosely structured and overlapping. Newcomers stand little chance of finding relevant topic history by searching large forums (like this one) so you inevitably end up with lots of redundancy. And veterans are "penalized" (e.g. stcanard's "sick of hearing" quoted comment above) by having to see and/or filter it.

I think many forums encourage a "sloppy" style of group communication, almost by design. Said more positively, they're "casual", a major reason why they're so popular. Yet they don't really scale well beyond a certain amount of traffic. Maybe they'll evolve into something more "beneficial" for their large diversity of participants? Certainly we'll evolve... :)

Sometimes I wish it were easier ignoring that theme as an undercurrent with much of my forum usage tho' I'm too stubborn to take it for granted that this is as good as it gets.

That's all. Now, back to our regularly scrambled topic... :)
 
Originally posted by Sabenth
bit late on this post but had to say HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA..... to the poor sod who bought it lmao..



Sorry mate but thats somthing you just dont do ....

Oh and If your on jag still you wont see exspose in a million years on Jag sorry

Uhhh, I sprung for it and it works just fine. Not as smooth as Panther, of course, and it seems to take "snapshots" of the windows rather than show them live, but it has the basic functionality depicted in the flash demo, at least on a Toshiba 17 inch notebook with a desktop pentium 4 2.8 gz with XP home. The keyboard remapping doesn't work on mine, but the hot corners are fine.
 
Out of curiosity, I purchased "Expose' for Windows". It does work, but the performance sucks. The windows sort of "chunk" as they slide to the side. They hop more than slide actually.

More importantly, the app sits in your tray and effects your system performance negatively while you're working (and not using the product.) Your mouse will lag intermittently as you move it, and scrolling similarly lags (even with the "no freeze" thing checked.

I've disabled the product and will soon uninstall it. I don't have Panther installed on my iBook yet so I can't compare the two products, but I can't imagine that it performs nearly as badly as winexpose.
 
Originally posted by stcanard
????

For me the whole point of expose is that now I _don't_ have to minimize windows I am using to find things, which is what XP forces me to do.

With, Tile/Cascade, Minimize/Restore(some or all), and the taskbar, Expose is totally unecessary in XP and every version of Windows since Windows 95.

Moving from one-click Windows management to using key combinations is a step backwards. I don't expect much success for this at all.
 
You have got to be kidding me. Pushing a button and having access to every window in any way I need or a quick view of the desktop is more efficient by leaps and bounds than minimizing, restoring, and searching the taskbar for the right windows in Windows.
 
Originally posted by MorganX
With, Tile/Cascade, Minimize/Restore(some or all), and the taskbar, Expose is totally unecessary in XP and every version of Windows since Windows 95.

You've missed the point.

Minimzing windows I'm using destroys my workflow because I have to go searching for it again when I need it 20 seconds later.

Minimize all is worse because now I lose every window.

Again, to re-iterate the statement in my post that you apparently ignored:

The point of expose is that you don't need to minimize windows

Now if you only use one or two active windows at a time I can see not understanding the need for this.

Every single day on my work computer I lament the lack of an expose feature because there is no easy way to get at the desktop or buried windows without changing my active window positioning.
 
Also...

for Windows XP, the closest thing to Expose would be the Alt+Tab XP PowerToy at the Microsoft Windows XP downloads site.
 
I wonder if they have now heard from Apple's lawyers as the site is now selling "WinPLOSION" not "WinEXPOSÉ". However, it doesn't look like there has been any change to the software...yet.
 
Originally posted by DVDSP
I wonder if they have now heard from Apple's lawyers as the site is now selling "WinPLOSION" not "WinEXPOSÉ". However, it doesn't look like there has been any change to the software...yet.
curious indeed.
 
i have a mate who came by this so called exspose. his reaction to it was put it on tried it out put it in the bin dont go near it. Keeps crashing etc etc. No use what so ever
 
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