I am recovering from a bout of pneumonia. I was not able to view my iPhone X without suffering a headache while sick, although I could look at my wife's 7+ without issue.
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No eye strain problem here with the XS Max. It replaced a Galaxy S7 Edge which replaced a Galaxy Note 4. Also have an 8" Galaxy Tab S2 with Super AMOLED screen (and a 10.5" iPad Pro).
I wonder if Samsung made any improvements to the PWM of their latest AMOLED displays. I’d be curious to test those (though I wouldn’t switch) to see if I have the same issue or whether FaceID contributes to the sensitivity. I did try the XR and while I was able to use it I did get intermittent throbbing pain after use.
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So after reading about how PWM was a likely source of my sudden cluster headaches and visual annoyances, I utilized the advice of operating my X with the brightness all the way up during the day to reduce flicker. Fun side effect is that my battery life is awful now but my headaches are gone. Can’t win!
I can’t tell if it is strictly just the phone, but seeing the generation we’re in; I feel like my eyes strain much quicker than when I was younger.
I want to say it’s my phone as it is the screen I am most intimate with, but I’m not the best control environment.
I feel like it could be my phone, but there’s also the laptop/office work environment and led lights everywhere. I think our future generations are just gonna be born blind lol.
I want to say it’s my phone as it is the screen I am most intimate with, but I’m not the best control environment.
I feel like it could be my phone, but there’s also the laptop/office work environment and led lights everywhere. I think our future generations are just gonna be born blind lol.
I checked the display models at a store and even staring at the XS or XS Max for a second almost makes me feel physically ill. There’s something seriously wrong with these displays, I’ve never felt this way about any display with PWM or any other OLED displays I’ve tried. The XR doesn’t exhibit this issue, but I found after trying it I preferred the 8+ as the XR presented too many compromises for me and I was ultimately disappointed with it. That’s not to say FaceID doesn’t potentially contribute to the sensitivity, but those displays are definitely problematic.
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I’m honestly surprised by the amount of commenters that are affected by PWM on a video with only 45k views that isn’t even explicitly about PWM. I think user sensitivity to iPhone X/XS’ PWM implementation is more prevalent than even Apple is aware.
Yeah it seems like a much bigger issue than it just affecting 10 percent of people which I’ve heard before from zollotech, I’m not sure If the flickering would bother me since I have the SE currently but am prone to headaches, also you can’t see the flickering to the naked eye but slow motion vids and some other cameras can pick it up, it’s pretty crazy in general.
Here is the link to the time in video where you can see the flickering.
Looks like embedding the video link doesn't allow you to jump to the specific time in the video. So just jump to the time 4:31 in the video
Looks like embedding the video link doesn't allow you to jump to the specific time in the video. So just jump to the time 4:31 in the video
Wow that video is crazy, i never noticed on my max when i had it. I am a believer now.
Well this is interesting. An alternative to PWM:
https://m.gsmarena.com/oneplus_work..._battle_lowbrightness_oled_pwm-news-36361.php
https://m.gsmarena.com/oneplus_work..._battle_lowbrightness_oled_pwm-news-36361.php
This is what we need DC dimming option so no PWM dimming:
https://www.smartprix.com/bytes/oneplus-7-pro-gets-dc-dimming-whats-it-and-how-to-enable-it/
https://www.smartprix.com/bytes/oneplus-7-pro-gets-dc-dimming-whats-it-and-how-to-enable-it/
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Gonna copy my reply from the XR thread:
Wow, that's pretty huge. It says that the feature was included in a software update, does that mean there are no specific hardware requirements? Or did the oneplus 7 have the actual screen configured for this ahead of time?
Either way, this shows that there IS a way around PWM for us in the future. Considering how good Apple is with accessibility (Switchcontrol, assistivetouch, display filters, hearing aid, etc), I'd be surprised if this didn't eventually come to iPhones.
Assuming this feature actually solves the issue for us, we should each submit feedback specifically asking for the DC Dimming option.
Funny that the "budget flagship" company OnePlus is solving this, where Samsung and Apple kinda don't seem to care. I do hope both companies take serious notice. It's a game changer. And I hate that phrase
Funny that the "budget flagship" company OnePlus is solving this, where Samsung and Apple kinda don't seem to care. I do hope both companies take serious notice. It's a game changer. And I hate that phrase
Really happy to see it's possible to adjust in a software update. Because a hardware update would mean it's too much of a hassle for Apple to fix. I could see them adding it to the next major OS. I highly doubt they'll adjust it soon, otherwise it would already have been done.
And now there are rumors for oled displays in iPads and more.
Not good news for some of us
https://www.macrumors.com/2019/05/23/samsung-oled-16-inch-macbook-pro-rumor/
I’d be seriously surprised if they kept the iPhone’s 240hz PWM on the macbooks and iPads. That would honestly be ridiculous.