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Interestingly that while reviewing the 13 Pro Max (skip to 9:13 mark), he notes that while recording the screen at 240 fps he does not detect flicker and asks if it could possibly be flicker free. This is stark contrast to what he said during the 13 and 13 mini reviews.
Not surprising. Why bother making a better screen on a phone $200-$300 dollars cheaper?
This would be so great. And the pwm shall be on the pro 480 Hz. Apple could also made a LCD Version of the iphone 13 series when they could currently not solve the problem. The success of the iphone 11 shows, that many people are fine with LCD Display and don't need a OLED Display at all.
Confirmed: Pro models are either flicker-free or operating at a higher refresh rate that can’t be caught on camera at 240Hz slo-mo. No flicker visible in the video.
Flicker visible on a 240fps slow mo video clip only means it’s out of sync with the camera shutter. If the flicker is bumped up (or down) a few hz to sync with the 240FPS shutter - you can’t see the flickering on the video.
The camera not being able to see flickering with a slow mo clip means nothing far as potential eye strain is concerned.
But we’ll all find out for real when people actually start using the phone and report back their findings.
The camera not being able to see flickering with a slow mo clip means nothing far as potential eye strain is concerned.
But we’ll all find out for real when people actually start using the phone and report back their findings.
I will let you guys know tomorrow but I’m beginning to believe this is the year that we’ll be able to get back on the iPhone upgrade cycle.
I do plan on sticking with the 6.1” Pro and I can foresee myself returning it, but this time it will be to upgrade to the Max instead of due to migraines.
I guess they don’t care, then, and figure the ones suffering are willing to pay $$$ for it.
Just a reminder for all you PWM test mules who are getting your iPhone 13s tomorrow…
My experience with a non PWM LCD plus iPhone (401 ppi) is that for me anyway, using Dark Mode makes my eyes more burny feeling after a few hours compared to using regular White Mode — so take that into consideration.
It may have something to do with pupil dilation: the brighter the overall screen, the easier it is for the eyes to focus because pupils are smaller.
My experience with a non PWM LCD plus iPhone (401 ppi) is that for me anyway, using Dark Mode makes my eyes more burny feeling after a few hours compared to using regular White Mode — so take that into consideration.
It may have something to do with pupil dilation: the brighter the overall screen, the easier it is for the eyes to focus because pupils are smaller.
OMG that's great news!! Not all flickering is created equal. There is flicker everywhere. When I record my TV at home with slow motion, it flickers, but it doesn't affect me.
I will definitively try out a PRO model this winter and see how it goes for me.
I will definitively try out a PRO model this winter and see how it goes for me.
I absolutely agree. Night mode may save my battery, but it's murder on my eyes. I have that turned off everywhere.
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I don’t need it either and also both Pros are heavy bricks. 13 pro is even heavier than 11…. for gods shake.
Another user on the forum measured it at 480Hz on iPhone 13 Pro Max, which would still be a major improvement. However I’d wait for Notebookcheck to know for sure what the rate is.
Here is the video for the 13 Pro. 7:58 slow motion with the 12 Pro:
The same difference like on the pro max
The same difference like on the pro max
Good enough for me. OLED iPhone’s usually flickered like crazy with slo-mo video. This seems like the first generation where Apple has made a meaningful improvement.Here is the video for the 13 Pro. 7:58 slow motion with the 12 Pro:
The same difference like on the pro max
If I had gone into the store and did a slo-mo test I’d probably walk away ecstatic and not even want to research further into PWM rates.
What I’m expecting is that since there’s still PWM, or flicker as they’re not entirely interchangeable terms, it’s possible I might still get more mild migraines/headaches. I’ll have to decide whether it’s worth using for the next year if that’s the case. I’d be pleasantly surprised if I went from basically 24/7 migraines and headaches on iPhone 12 to no headaches at all on iPhone 13.
