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Nothing, the stylus is the only one I can vouch for personally (snap+AMOLED). Edge 2026 (and whatever equivalent global variants) look great. In US, 2 years of OS updates + 3 years of security updates is what moto offers. Motorola Edge 70 Fusion looks good.
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Pixel 11 news keeps leaking and nothing about a better/safer screen is being leaked.
If Pixel or Samsung does something, then Apple will be forced to follow. Until then, I don't see Apple doing anything.
Aside from the display issue, I also don't like the lack of physical SIM card option.
I'm definitely on my last iPhone (SE 2022).
AshX
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Hi guys,
I don’t know if anyone here might be able to help. My only usable device of any kind (computer, phone) has been an iPhone 13 on iOS 15.6.1 for the past several years. Earlier this week while walking out the door I apparently ghost touched the control center Lock Screen and disabled True Tone. I immediately re-enabled it, but ever since my previously super comfortable iPhone 13 has been giving me issues.
I gave it a few days, but it’s definitely the phone. I’ve had no special settings since I got this phone in 2022. I use True Tone, Night Shift from 10 PM to 1 PM the next day, and have auto brightness enabled.
Now, when I use low powered mode, the phone feels worse. Prior to this it didn’t matter whether I had low power mode on or off - the phone felt the same.
I don’t understand what could’ve happened. I’ve combed through forum posts and Apple Support articles and none of this makes sense. To my understanding True Tone only affects white balance and the color temperature based on readings from the ambient light sensors. Is it possible that by briefly disabling True Tone, I reset some sort of “memory” based on years of use? I believe Apple claimed auto brightness learns your preferred brightness over time. Does True Tone influence the auto brightness curve?
I’m at a loss. This is my only device. I have an autoimmune disease and long COVID and this phone has basically been my only tether to the outside world. I’ve not updated the OS or made any other changes.
I don’t know if anyone here might be able to help. My only usable device of any kind (computer, phone) has been an iPhone 13 on iOS 15.6.1 for the past several years. Earlier this week while walking out the door I apparently ghost touched the control center Lock Screen and disabled True Tone. I immediately re-enabled it, but ever since my previously super comfortable iPhone 13 has been giving me issues.
I gave it a few days, but it’s definitely the phone. I’ve had no special settings since I got this phone in 2022. I use True Tone, Night Shift from 10 PM to 1 PM the next day, and have auto brightness enabled.
Now, when I use low powered mode, the phone feels worse. Prior to this it didn’t matter whether I had low power mode on or off - the phone felt the same.
I don’t understand what could’ve happened. I’ve combed through forum posts and Apple Support articles and none of this makes sense. To my understanding True Tone only affects white balance and the color temperature based on readings from the ambient light sensors. Is it possible that by briefly disabling True Tone, I reset some sort of “memory” based on years of use? I believe Apple claimed auto brightness learns your preferred brightness over time. Does True Tone influence the auto brightness curve?
I’m at a loss. This is my only device. I have an autoimmune disease and long COVID and this phone has basically been my only tether to the outside world. I’ve not updated the OS or made any other changes.
AshX
macrumors regular
Hi guys. Brief update. I did a forced reboot and it seemed to help a little. The phone booted up and it was much warmer. But a few hours later True Tone just stopped working. Symptoms were better, but it seems like something is wrong with True Tone or my ambient light sensors, at least on iOS 15, and that toggling True Tone triggered it. Unsure if this is going to be usable long term…insane that something like this can modify a device so significantly…especially one that was usable for so long.
For what it’s worth, I have a GVC panel, so it’s LG.
What happens if you disable True Tone and permanently enable Night Shift? The colors may be off, but it may help the phone be usable. That's what I do. But mine is a 2022 SE with an LCD display.
Yes above ^: True Tone is continuously changing the color of the display which likely the brain doesn’t find too pleasant. Just find a Night Shift setting you like and have it set to run always. That’s what I do. I really don’t like True Tone at all.
And if it gets to desperation time - view the screen in grayscale. That’s been a lifesaver for me.
And if it gets to desperation time - view the screen in grayscale. That’s been a lifesaver for me.
MICHAELSD
macrumors 603
This is still not ideal because I’m getting to the point where I need a new phone and there’s still no solution. None of the frequencies across the generations and models have ever not caused a headache response, and the PWM toggle doesn’t do enough. I almost want to an order an iPhone 17, but I’ll have to continue to see if iPhone 18 offers any improvement.
Have you tried Android at all? I fear that is what I will be forced to do. Hoping to hear some success stories before I take the leap.
I am nearly 100% certain that Apple will NOT address this issue.
To everyone’s surprise they brought a pwm feature (although useless for the most part) who knows what surprises they might have for pwm sensitive users on the 18 series.
aliensporebomb
macrumors 68000
"Eye twitching video on the new iPhone Twitch". I don't know, I remember when I first got my iPhoneX the video took some getting used to.
I don't seem to have the issue with the 12 PM, 15 PM and or my newer 17 PM. So, am I just used to it and don't notice it now or has it been addressed?
I don't seem to have the issue with the 12 PM, 15 PM and or my newer 17 PM. So, am I just used to it and don't notice it now or has it been addressed?
LTPO = terrible variable refresh rate
Deep, variable PWM modulation = eye strain
DV, HDR10 = dithering; shimmering effect like you can't focus on text; watching any video should turn this on
Nothing has been fixed at all. If you truly feel nothing, you likely have no issues with PWM at all. Screen lotto is a red herring.
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LTPO is terrible. LTPO+ will be even worse.
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Pixel 11 released. Appears to have the same PWM/screen.