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Other Eye-strain while using iPhone X and up

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I’m not sure if I’m kinda paranoid, but since I’ve got the iPhone 11 Pro, I feel like being ”observed“. Like when it’s lying on the desk next to me and I’m doing stuff, this happens. Very weird sensation!
 
Can anyone report if there is any difference between the 11 Pro series and the new iPhone 12? Would very much like to buy one but had bad eyestrain with the 11 series.
 
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This is very promising. Now we wait for notebookcheck’s numbers. I’m not pulling the trigger til I can confirm the frequency rate is higher this year.
 
AJAAY said:
This is very promising. Now we wait for notebookcheck’s numbers. I’m not pulling the trigger til I can confirm the frequency rate is higher this year.
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It’s the same for me, but if the frequency is higher, I might get the pro and see if I can live with it despite FaceID still being the only authentication option. Would’ve preferred also TouchID, but I’d like a better camera than the one on the SE.
 
Complete anecdotal non scientific post here. I suffer from PWM. I figured this out when I purchased an XS two years ago and had to return it back to my local Apple Store within 48 hours due to splitting headaches.

My wife just took advantage of the $800 trade in promo on her XR and got an iPhone 12. I just set it up and activated it for her, and I swear within a few minutes of using the phone, I could feel eye-strain/headache brewing.

This is just my experience, and only for a very short period of time, but from that short amount of time I spent using it, it appears (AT LEAST FOR ME) the PWM mess has not been solved or cared for, at least at my level PWM sensitivity (which I assume is high).

I hope I’m wrong and/or in the minority. Really curious to see what kind of feedback we see over the coming weeks. I suspect there is a spectrum amongst those that suffer from PWM, so it may be possible Apple has made enough modifications to where some who suffered previously no longer do on the new panels, where others who may be even more sensitive to PWM still experience problems.
 
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AJAAY said:
This is very promising. Now we wait for notebookcheck’s numbers. I’m not pulling the trigger til I can confirm the frequency rate is higher this year.
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There's a reply to that tweet:
The iPhone 12 screen technology you need to know is that more than 25% brightness automatically turns to DC modulation.

So above 25% pwm is not used.
 
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brig2221 said:
Complete anecdotal non scientific post here. I suffer from PWM. I figured this out when I purchased an XS two years ago and had to return it back to my local Apple Store within 48 hours due to splitting headaches.

My wife just took advantage of the $800 trade in promo on her XR and got an iPhone 12. I just set it up and activated it for her, and I swear within a few minutes of using the phone, I could feel eye-strain/headache brewing.

This is just my experience, and only for a very short period of time, but from that short amount of time I spent using it, it appears (AT LEAST FOR ME) that the PWM mess has not been solved or cared for, at least at my level PWN sensitivity (which I assume is high).

I hope I’m wrong and/or in the minority. Really curious to see what kind of feedback we see over the coming weeks. I suspect there is a spectrum amongst those that suffer from PWM, so it may be possible Apple has made enough modifications to where some who suffered previously no longer do on the new panels, where others who may be even more sensitive to PWM still experience problems.
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Thanks for posting your experience and I’m sorry you‘re still having problems with the 12. :(

The max brightness is higher in the 12 pros (800 nits) compared to the 12/mini (625 nits). I wonder if there is a PWM difference in those displays. The iPhone 11 pros were also 800 nits and those are the only Apple OLED panels that I have seen positive reports (and higher frequency PWM) from folks previously sensitive to the X or XS (both also 625 nits)...or perhaps it’s just wishful thinking.

I really like the new 12 series phones and would love to upgrade...but I’m going to hold out until more folks such as yourself are able to report their experience. Having said that, even if Apple did make changes, it’s still likely going to be different from one person to the next. So I guess I will have to weigh taking the chance of a positive outcome versus the inconvenience and PITA factor of dealing with a return process.

...or I just stick with my trusty 8+ until it dies or Apple changes things...or maybe I’ll get an iPhone 11 to satisfy my desire for an upgrade.
 
I grabbed a 12 this morning and have been messing around with it for a few hours. Unfortunately, I have the same eye strain symptoms as I did with the 11 Pro.

I’m not sure if the Hz increased, but it’s not enough for me. I think I’m really sensitive to flicker though, since I even get symptoms from the XR/11. Hope you guys have a better experience 😅
 
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matthijst said:
There's a reply to that tweet:
The iPhone 12 screen technology you need to know is that more than 25% brightness automatically turns to DC modulation.

So above 25% pwm is not used.
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That sounds promising, but until there’s a formal measurement I’m not considering that to be accurate.

it is possible that it flickers without the use of PWM above 25%. That would be a step in the right direction.
 
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I have had a demo model iPhone 12 in my hand yesterday, just for 5 minutes or so. Didn't get any eyestrain yet, that is promising cause the 10 and 11 gave me within 3 minutes eyestrain. Looks like the frequentie is some what higher? I will have to play some more time with the 12 to see if I can handle this model, but yet again, it looks promising, at least for me that is. - I hope for all of you people!
 
Hi there
Today I got my IPhone 12 .. before I tell you what happened I wanna tell you my last 2 years experience :

-I bought the iphone xs and had headache, nausea and eye tiredness then I sold it and return to Iphone 8 Lcd
-I bought the 11pro and had headache, nausea and eye tiredness then I sold it and got Iphone 11 Lcd

Today I got my iphone 12 and unfortunately after 20mins of usage I felt sick and had a nausea .. I'll give it a chance for 48 hors and if it's still the same I think I'm going back to the 11 Lcd
 
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I know how to fix the eye strain problem. It's the attention awareness feature, not PWM. Turn off the Face ID attention awareness setting. I had the same eye strain, but with this setting off, I immediately felt 100% better, and have had 0 eye problems since. Also to note, I keep the brightness above 50% just in case. But everyone please try turning the attention awareness off and increasing brightness above 50% and I promise the eye strain will stop.

The attention awareness is continuously shooting the IR into our eyes, I believe that is what's causing the strain. I never got the horrible pain again since I turned it off. The relief was immediate. The sandy, dry feeling in your eyes, the sharp, achy mid forehead pain, the stabbing back of the eye pain, all of that was gone. Improved my whole experience.

Please let me know if this helps anyone, I'm curious to know if it works for others.
 
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