Phil Schiller stated the chance of a random person being able to unlock another device with the Touch ID was one in 50,000 and Face ID should have a one in 1,000,000 chance of a false positive.
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iPhone X FaceID is not really more secure!
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Phil Schiller stated the chance of a random person being able to unlock another device with the Touch ID was one in 50,000 and Face ID should have a one in 1,000,000 chance of a false positive.
what a stupid and pointless „what if“ thread.
What if i step out of my new car and get run over tomorrow. I THOUGHT MY CAR WAS MORE SECURE
What if i step out of my new car and get run over tomorrow. I THOUGHT MY CAR WAS MORE SECURE
Well, the one vital flaw in your plan there is that you've just told the internet... Cracking it, for those who look at your MacRumors profile, will be easy now!
The number is 10, if I remember correctly.
Last time I changed my passcode, I put the new code in 1Password. The only problem with that process was that I didn't actually enter what I thought I had. A case of my mind moving faster than my fingers. I rebooted my phone to test the new passcode. And sure enough, I was met with the not correct passcode; failed attempt 1 message. Tried two more times to the same message. Looked back at 1Password and realizsed that my saved password was 2 digits off from what had been entered. After a total of 5 attempts, I was good to go. Needless to say, I changed the code again to make sure it matched my 1Password entry. Good thing the attempt threshold was higher, as I did not want to have to head to the Apple store and show proof of purchase etc. to get it unlocked.
Touch ID falls back to a PIN too. Not really getting your point at all.
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This thread should just get closed already.Touch ID falls back to a PIN too. Not really getting your point at all.
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No it shouldn't. This thread highlights that most people have no idea what the reasons behind biometric security are. The fact that people think Face ID somehow makes their device more secure is laughable. (it may be more convenient, depending on the user).
As per usual here, people are focusing on that they think the X is being criticised and reacting to that.
I agree. Consumers Security is always the upmost concern and should be priority, but biometric is also extremely reliable for what it is. Touch ID perfect example of that. I’m actually more curious than anything to see how Apple spans on Face ID for the next upcoming versions of the iPhone.
Yep, this is actually a transcription of the keynotes.
"Now how do we compare that to Touch ID? How secure is it? Well, there’s no perfect system, not even biometric ones but as we said earlier, Touch ID is the gold standard for consumer device biometric protection. And the data for Touch ID has been one in 50,000. Meaning that the chance that a random person could use their fingerprint to unlock your iPhone has been about one in 50,000 and it’s been great.
So what are the similar statistics for Face ID? One in a million. The chance that a random person in the population could look at your iPhone 10 and unlock it with their face is about one in a million. And of course, the statistics are lower if that person shares a close genetic relationship with you. So, for example, if you happen to have an evil twin, you really need to protect your pass code or your sensitive data with a pass code. Hopefully you don’t."
I said they made it clear earlier however I should have said they were precise. If someone confuses that....well they are just hearing what they want to hear and fit it into an agenda. They even say you need to use a PASS CODE! Lol good stuff...
I think you’ve missed the point of FaceId and TouchID.
You’re right, they will never be more secure than a passcode because the device will ALWAYS allow a passcode override. In fact, power off the device and you must enter the passcode to unlock before it will accept Face or TouchID. Try to make any changes to the security setting of your device and it requires the passcode.
TouchID and FaceID are convenience features to allow for a secure way to avoid having to enter a passcode every time you unlock your device or authorize a purchase, but really, your device has only ever been as secure as your passcode.
So if you’re worried about it, just make your passcode crazy strong because you should seldom have to use it. It doesn’t have to be just a 4 digit pin. It can be 6 digits, or a full alphanumeric case sensitive password.
That's the daftest thing I have heard in ages. If you hand over your passcode to anyone, then your security is gone. Common sense. FaceID is a shortcut. The passcode is security.
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Actually, less secure. According to Apple, one in a million faces can unlock your phone. But if I can't unlock your phone with FaceID the first time, then I can try as often as I like, it's not going to work. (That one in a million person will unlock it every time, but 99.9999% of people have no chance to unlock it ever). With your passcode, I can try again and again. Well, at least ten times. So the chance is ten times higher.
Actually, if we can convince you to use eight digits instead of four, which you can do because you rarely need to type it in, then FaceId makes your phone more secure.
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I don't know what Apple can do, but they cannot unlock your phone. If they cannot unlock the phone of a criminal when the police produces a search warrant, then they cannot unlock your phone.
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