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Few questions about rooting and stuff?

3bs said:
No problem. Feel free to ask away if you have any questions. It's really not complicated at all but reading about it isn't going to show that, you have to either see videos of it or do it yourself.
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When I've seen videos of people installing the CM ROM, are they rooting as well as installing the ROM or are all of them steps necessary even when the device is rooted?
 
I would go with cyanogenmod. They add features to stock android but are very particular about making sure the extra features feel as if they shipped with the device stock and add a lot more polish than other roms. They also value stability more than even vanilla aosp roms in my opinion. IF you want to get a galaxy s3 to run cm, make sure you buy the snapdragon version and not the exynos version. Same goes for the s4. The snapdragon versions are supported very well. (the snapdragon gs4 will essentially have perfect cm once the nexus edition is release) The exynos version is a hacked mess and cyanogen (himself) doesn't even officially support it.

If you get a nexus 4, unlock the bootloader first thing so that if you decide to flash a rom like CM (which I recommend doing), you won't have to wipe your internal storage. (you should still wipe your app data/settings partition). That way you won't lose your photos/music/documents. CM definitely improves the nexus devices immensely. If you want more features I recommend AOKP (heavily influenced by CM) over the alternatives. Paranoid is too buggy at the moment to recommend.

I run CM10.1 on my Galaxy Nexus and run AOKP 4.2.2 on my Nexus 7. The stability of both roms on nexus devices is excellent and no worse than stock. I actually would put cm10.1 a step above stock for stability.
 
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One thing which wasn't mentioned yet : You void your warranty ... You can usually re-lock / un-root you device, but it doesn't ALWAYS work without restoring a stock / original ROM and resetting the flash counter (Using an App called Triangle Away).
 
Jibbajabba said:
One thing which wasn't mentioned yet : You void your warranty ... You can usually re-lock / un-root you device, but it doesn't ALWAYS work without restoring a stock / original ROM and resetting the flash counter (Using an App called Triangle Away).
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I'm not really bothered about that, I'm not buying the phone to replace my current, just to play with which is why I'm trying to find a second hand one somewhere because if I break it, it won't matter

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blackhand1001 said:
I would go with cyanogenmod. They add features to stock android but are very particular about making sure the extra features feel as if they shipped with the device stock and add a lot more polish than other roms. They also value stability more than even vanilla aosp roms in my opinion. IF you want to get a galaxy s3 to run cm, make sure you buy the snapdragon version and not the exynos version. Same goes for the s4. The snapdragon versions are supported very well. (the snapdragon gs4 will essentially have perfect cm once the nexus edition is release) The exynos version is a hacked mess and cyanogen (himself) doesn't even officially support it.

If you get a nexus 4, unlock the bootloader first thing so that if you decide to flash a rom like CM (which I recommend doing), you won't have to wipe your internal storage. (you should still wipe your app data/settings partition). That way you won't lose your photos/music/documents. CM definitely improves the nexus devices immensely. If you want more features I recommend AOKP (heavily influenced by CM) over the alternatives. Paranoid is too buggy at the moment to recommend.

I run CM10.1 on my Galaxy Nexus and run AOKP 4.2.2 on my Nexus 7. The stability of both roms on nexus devices is excellent and no worse than stock. I actually would put cm10.1 a step above stock for stability.
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So would you recommend Cyanogenmod over the PAC ROM?
 
lewismayell said:
I'm not really bothered about that, I'm not buying the phone to replace my current, just to play with which is why I'm trying to find a second hand one somewhere because if I break it, it won't matter

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So would you recommend Cyanogenmod over the PAC ROM?
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Yeah. I had random reboots on PAC ROM.
 
lewismayell said:
I see on videos and stuff, people downloading apps that require a rooted device from the play store, how does this work? Surely if google are allowing them on the play store the device wouldn't need rooting? Maybe this is completely wrong but
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There are a number of apps that either need rooting to work or have some functions that require rooting. Nova Prime Launcher does not need root to run, but you won't get widget previews unless you have root access. Keyboard Manager needs root to work. Both of these are on the Play store.
 
Stuntman06 said:
There are a number of apps that either need rooting to work or have some functions that require rooting. Nova Prime Launcher does not need root to run, but you won't get widget previews unless you have root access. Keyboard Manager needs root to work. Both of these are on the Play store.
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Not true of nova launcher anymore. Jellybean fixed it where yoiu couple have widget previews without root or being a system app. Only in ICS did you need root.
 
lewismayell said:
m.youtube.com/watch?v=5Nsk-XY5j4c

It has some of the same steps as the rooting videos
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First thing he was doing was making a Titanium backup which you need to be rooted to use. This backups your apps which you can restore even when switching ROMs which makes it less of a hassle when switching ROMs since you don't have to configure all your apps. You'll just have to setup the system settings like ringtones, wifi passwords etc.

After that he was downloading the ROM from an app called Goo Manager. Not all ROMs can be found on this app so if it's not there that doesn't mean you can't get it elsewhere.

Then he was making a nandroid backup which backs up everything in case you screw something up and want to go back to the way your phone was at the time of that backup. It's also useful if you want to try out a new ROM but aren't sure if you'll like it or not. With a nandroid you can try out ROMs and if you don't like them or they don't work well then you can go back to your nandroid.

Lastly he was flashing CM. So no, that video doesn't show you how to unlock the bootloader (if your phones bootloader is locked you won't be able to install a custom ROM), how to root the phone and how to install a custom recovery (for easily flashing ROMs and making nandroid backups directly on the phone without the need of a computer).
 
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