You made the right choice. The new imacs are junk and targeted towards pc switchers to whom an etch-A sketch is an improvement over their current pc. The bus speed bump is irrelevant as the memory speed is the same, the aluminum and plastic looks like a $500 HP piece of crap and as far as the chipset imacs are hobby machines anyway with 3 or 4 gigs max what's the difference? The screen is the only redeeming factor and the white 24"c2d blows the new glossy ijunk out of the water. it only "looks better" to those that don't know any better. Take a look at the apple refurb site a refurb white 24" is only $100 less than the so called "improved" imac 24" - the white 24" C2D 2.33 is in demand to those in the know...
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Finally I am so glad I have last gen 24"
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Early reviews were mixed. Some people liked it. Others hated it. The story hasn't changed just because YOU finally got around to forming an opinion on the issue.
Troll much?
Anyway, "those in the know" realize that Intel's decision to use 667-MHz memory for Santa Rosa does not hurt performance. The remainder of your post is worth one giant:
Troll much?
Anyway, "those in the know" realize that Intel's decision to use 667-MHz memory for Santa Rosa does not hurt performance. The remainder of your post is worth one giant:
The core2 processors have a rather huge on chip cache that is used very efficiently so in deed one won´t notice speed differences in real life scenarios.
It´s pretty much the same with expensive pc oc ram. Twice the cost 1,2 fps more in Crysis. The screen on the white 24in is in a different league, however.
I now have a glossy MacBook Pro. I upgraded from a matte powerbook. To be honest I prefer the glossy screen. But then again the MBPs screen (matte or glossy) is of much higher quality than the PBs anyway. Do I notice reflections sometimes? Of course, but it hardly ruins my day. However that is MY opinion, does it mean I'd necessarily like the iMac? Possibly. I just like the richer colors to be honest.
Love my glossy screen, I just don't get how it is so bothersome to some; however I appreciate that can be distracting. I'm happy... hope you are also.
what a horrible thread. Common man, stop acting so childish. You dont need to bash the "new model" because you dont have it.
PS. i also got the white imac, but not because the screen issue, but because of the design. Though id NEVER say the design or screen are bad, theyre both great, but in my own opinion the older one is nicer.
PS. i also got the white imac, but not because the screen issue, but because of the design. Though id NEVER say the design or screen are bad, theyre both great, but in my own opinion the older one is nicer.
Oh please, oh wise one, tell me of the pleasures of which my mere mortal soul is missing because I do not share your infinite wisdom. For you see, I don't know any better and I need a prophet like you to show me what my eyes don't reveal. I don't know any better and I thank the immortal wise leader 12k for telling me what I should feel and think.
amen
Dude why are you up here being so rude to other people's opinions? Some people like glossy screens, some people don't. That's your opinion but its extremely rude to come on this forum and blast somebody for liking a certain thing that you do not like. That's like going on a Toyota website saying "The Camry sucks, why the hell do you people buy them?!?" Quite frankly I think you are doing it for attention, and you want to be another forum troll.
I’m writing on my powewrbook g4 and I have to say I wish I had a glossy screen. The matte screen has always seemed dull to me. I constantly find myself trying to raise the brightness of the screen thinking I had dimmed it somehow with out knowing. On the other hand I would rather keep my back lit keyboard too…so I guess I will stay with the powerbook for at least another 6months. Not to happy with the new keyboards for the Imac.
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Well, in my case, glossy screens have personally cost Apple three sales (new iMac x 2 and MB x 1). While not much in the big picture, I am sure others feel the same.
Luckily there are plenty of PC options with matte screens, or I can get a Mac Pro or MacBook Pro with a matte screen.
Funny. Doubt it.
That much is true.
I find this hard to believe.
Glossy screen rocks way better than matte.
Others of us would just say the opposite.
Well I was very sceptical of the glossy screens when the new iMac came out. I had been waiting ages for the new iMac and my only previous experience of glossy screens was my employers company Toshiba laptops which are not great. If I hadn't been able to see the new iMac in the flesh then I would not have bought it simply because I was prejudiced against glossy screens.
Then I saw one... Game over, I bought a 24" model there are then! Gorgeous!
I know this is a very subjective issue and so agreement is unlikely but if you look at a matte screen you get a fuzzy reflection which, if the light source behind you is strong, can wash out the picture. With a glossy screen you get a pin-sharp reflection rather than a washed out picture. I don't think either is "good" so in both cases you need to try your best to eliminate the reflections.
Yes, with a completely black screen it is like a mirror and because your eye has nothing else to focus on it tends to focus on the reflection. This is a non-issue for me in practice because why do I care about reflections when my screen is off? Even if I'm watching a DVD - black screens are rare and I tend to watch films with the lights out anyway in which case I don't see reflections.
In my humble opinion the screen in the new iMac is simply stunning and I much prefer the aluminium enclosure over the plastic one. It looks much more like a professional product to me and "reflects" it's price point better.
The problem you now face if you don't like glossy screens is that your choices are likely to diminish over the next few years and may disappear completely. It's a bit like sticking with XP or Tiger because you don't like Vista or Leopard - where are you going to go?
Good luck,
Craig.
Then I saw one... Game over, I bought a 24" model there are then! Gorgeous!
I know this is a very subjective issue and so agreement is unlikely but if you look at a matte screen you get a fuzzy reflection which, if the light source behind you is strong, can wash out the picture. With a glossy screen you get a pin-sharp reflection rather than a washed out picture. I don't think either is "good" so in both cases you need to try your best to eliminate the reflections.
Yes, with a completely black screen it is like a mirror and because your eye has nothing else to focus on it tends to focus on the reflection. This is a non-issue for me in practice because why do I care about reflections when my screen is off? Even if I'm watching a DVD - black screens are rare and I tend to watch films with the lights out anyway in which case I don't see reflections.
In my humble opinion the screen in the new iMac is simply stunning and I much prefer the aluminium enclosure over the plastic one. It looks much more like a professional product to me and "reflects"
it's price point better.The problem you now face if you don't like glossy screens is that your choices are likely to diminish over the next few years and may disappear completely. It's a bit like sticking with XP or Tiger because you don't like Vista or Leopard - where are you going to go?
Good luck,
Craig.
I'm more surprised people haven't complained about the lack of a bigger video card upgrade. It had seemed like they kind of side stepped on the video card and what followed was months of "freezers". Maybe MWSF will provide matte/glossy options and a video card option too. Then maybe I would consider an upgrade.
I’m writing on my powewrbook g4 and I have to say I wish I had a glossy screen. The matte screen has always seemed dull to me. I constantly find myself trying to raise the brightness of the screen thinking I had dimmed it somehow with out knowing. On the other hand I would rather keep my back lit keyboard too…so I guess I will stay with the powerbook for at least another 6months. Not to happy with the new keyboards for the Imac.
I think you feel it is dull, because it is a PowerBook G4! Every generation ahead of it has brighter screen. It is not because it is matte.
Also, I certainly believe it is a personal preference. But there are so many things in this world can be personal preference. It can be your choice to support war that's wrong. It is also your choice to kill or commit crime. Those argument is entirely invalid.
I like the new keyboard. I actually bought the new keyboard. It feels good and saves some space. Also for the USB 2.0 ports.
I agree that pictures and stuff looks more vibrant on the glossy. But as some people said, it is not faithful to the original color, and for me, I would not really prefer it.
Just like those audio plugins, such as iWOW, those actually distort the original recordings. It may sounds better in a way, but I still decided not to use it. Perception of certain pleasure can be fooling your senses.
Glossy screen may seem brighter simply because it is a brighter screen, esp. when you compare old PB with new MB, old iMac with new iMac. New LCDs are usually brighter as Apple advertized.
I agree that pictures and stuff looks more vibrant on the glossy. But as some people said, it is not faithful to the original color, and for me, I would not really prefer it.
Just like those audio plugins, such as iWOW, those actually distort the original recordings. It may sounds better in a way, but I still decided not to use it. Perception of certain pleasure can be fooling your senses.
Glossy screen may seem brighter simply because it is a brighter screen, esp. when you compare old PB with new MB, old iMac with new iMac. New LCDs are usually brighter as Apple advertized.
Good move. I tried out the new iMacs in the Apple Store, the glare's terrible. If I was getting an iMac I'd get the older white 24" too.
And eek, those new keyboards... not for me.
And eek, those new keyboards... not for me.
Oh, OK. NOW I get it! Preferring a glossy screen over a matte is akin to supporting war, committing crimes and murders!
If you had come out with this brilliant revelation at the top of this thread we could have avoided all of this worthless debate on the issue.
GREAT move if you live in a store with bright fluorescent lighting.
This thread is pointless. Some people like glossy, some don't.
Live and let live, right??
I love the new aluminum keyboard so much I kept the mouse half of my Logitech S530 desktop and put the keyboard part into storage.
To each their own.
GREAT move if you live in a store with bright fluorescent lighting.
Okay, so it might not make any difference in your unlit basement. Go for it. Some of us live in environments with lighting.
I like the placement of the Volume and eject buttons over the number pad. Assigning them to f keys means I can't use the keyboards by feel anymore, I have to look at the F keys. So I'm not going to like readjusting on a rearranged keyboard - will stick with the old ones.
We had a white imac in our kitchen that did nothing except show our family photos 24 hours a day, 7 days a week aside from using it for a quick recipe search on the internet every once in a while. 2 weeks ago we replaced it with an aluminum 24" glossy imac and the difference is unmistakable. The screen is much brighter and the pictures seem really alive. Now, this is only the opinion of me and everyone who has seen the new imac compared to the old one (all our family and some of our friends) but everyone comments on the "aliveness" of the new screens. So, in my OPINION, for pictures the 24" glossy is a much better screen, but that's just my 2 cents (and everyone who has seen it in our house).
Sure it has more vivid (yet unreal) color. But how old was your white iMac?
older white 24" is brighter than last gen 20". And the brightness has been increasing all the time. It is brighter, but that's not because it is glossy.