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simonsi

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Credit Independent Newspaper....But good example never the less.


It is a good example and most easily captured at the time with the right settings than created in PP, firing off many jpegs would have resulted in many identical images unless the photog used bracketing very creatively to vary the aperture for DoF effect ;-)

Agreed the wrong image taken with too small an aperture could also have, with blur added in PP, given this image (and that os possibly where camera phones will have to go to create such an impression of a large aperture), but I tend to respect the in-camera more.

Incidentally I shoot RAW but apply a default style on import into Capture One so no additional time used, unless I want to revisit that is it, I also keep about 10-15%.
 

Reality4711

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We're on the same track here as well. When I switched from Nikon to the much slower shooting Fuji's I quickly realized spray and pray was no longer an option. The shot(s) I could get off had to be right. Took 2 years but in the end I like where I'm at more than where I was.

My thoughts, not necessarily applicable to others:
I shifted more of the work forward, to taking the shot instead of fixing it later.
I shifted to a keep only that which I'm willing to publish. That almost halved my already well culled catalog. My current keeper rate is probably 10%.
I feel like I'm more back in photography, at least the side I enjoy.

The switch from Nikon to Fuji also brought with it Fuji's well regarded JPEG engine. After you tune the default parameters and simulation to what you prefer, wow. I went from a 100% raw shooter to probably about 60/70% jpegs. I finished up my Xmas shooting a few nights ago. About 80% of the keepers were jpegs and the whole series was done in low light with wildly varying light contrasts.

For me I find it more enjoyable and I'm back to thinking before I start pressing.

Last and a couple of days old change, I bought a "new" camera. I picked up a Fuji XE2. An anachronism features wise compared to my XT1 but I enjoy using it far more (already have an XE1 so I'm very familiar with the body). Again, a decision driven by the enjoyment factor rather than bells, whistles and all the latest tech.

TheXE2 is the more modern-Yes?. But there is an XPro as well.
The Xpro has appeared in Amazon at £300 (very cheap)?
The lenses look very expensive?

Comments please.

Regards

Sharkey
 

Reality4711

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It is a good example and most easily captured at the time with the right settings than created in PP, firing off many jpegs would have resulted in many identical images unless the photog used bracketing very creatively to vary the aperture for DoF effect ;-)

Agreed the wrong image taken with too small an aperture could also have, with blur added in PP, given this image (and that os possibly where camera phones will have to go to create such an impression of a large aperture), but I tend to respect the in-camera more.

Incidentally I shoot RAW but apply a default style on import into Capture One so no additional time used, unless I want to revisit that is it, I also keep about 10-15%.

It is real shame I could not get on with C1..
Getting CS5 to do the same is going to be a search/ if at all!
2016 is going to be large for me- new photography regime and a goal of <15 stone by December 31st. I am hoping to combine the two goals; getting out and about and away from the fridge;).
Not tried this type of life change before but a number of very negative health props. plus a recent psychological diagnosis have brought this forward to a real necessity if I am to be around to support my wife through her 'Multiple Myeloma'..

Should get us both out in the freshest Scottish air, weather permitting.

Good to hear from you

Regards & HNY

Sharkey
 

Ray2

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TheXE2 is the more modern-Yes?. But there is an XPro as well.
The Xpro has appeared in Amazon at £300 (very cheap)?
The lenses look very expensive?

Comments please.

Regards

Sharkey
Both cameras will be replaced in 2016. The XE2 will be a minor upgrade, the XP1 is expected to be major.

The XE2 has PDAF auto focus, smaller, lighter. I'll use it with Fuji's 18/2, 27/2.8 and 35/1.4, perhaps with my larger 23/1.4 for a walk about camera. The XE1 and 2 are considered the best Fuji's in the handling/ergonomics area. They are a joy to shoot. Small, light, simple. Technical strengths are superb auto metering and white balance. If you get the shot right to begin with, the jpegs are superb and take skill to get the raws to their level. If you don't get it right, they have more than enough headroom to adjust. Not raw headroom but a couple of stops and strong highlight adjustments are well within the norm.

Th xp1 was their flagship. Slower CDAF auto focus. Slow operation. It's aimed at contemplative photographers who take their time. Very good with adapted glass. Otherwise same as above but in a larger package. It needs to be replaced and will be as better tech is already used in many other Fuji cams. It's rugged, used by a lot of documentary and art photography pro's.

Both use what Fuji calls an XTrans sensor. It's a 6x6 array as opposed to the Bayer 2x2. It takes a good dose of cpu to demosiac the files. In Adobe, about 3 times the time to import versus my old D800 files. File sizes are large, within 3 mb of D800 files. Support with Adobe is getting better but it still can be a challenge for landscape photographers. Once you've learned how to sharpen the files (simple) Adobe is fine but not the ultimate (again for landscape) When I have a shot Adobe can't handle I go to C1 in sessions mode for the demosiac and back into Adobe. The strength of the sensor is its dynamic range. Comparable to many full frame's at a fraction of the size and weight.

The XF lens line is are not cheap but they are superb. The XC line is cheaper. Slower and consumer oriented. The optics are fine but plastic instead of metal bodies. On their video side, lenses go over $30k. Coatings are superb. I can shoot into my South Florida sun and get away with it more times than not. I don't use filters and the bare minimum for hoods (like a 3/4" depth). They used to do some of Hassleblad's lenses as well as bodies. They don't make lousy lenses and probably never will.

Depends what you want for an ILC system. Carry everyday, general photography, an XE is a joy to use with the same IQ as their other X-Series cameras. For a workhorse, the successor to the XP1 or the dslr form factor XT1. I also have an XT1, gripped for use with my larger/heavier lenses. I could probably hammer nails with it and do no damage other than cosmetics. The body is one piece of cast magnesium. I don't like the form factor. For me, the dslr shape does not lend itself to smaller bodies. Others feel differently as I believe it's their top selling X-Series ILC.

If you don't need operational and AF speed, but prefer more grip than the smaller XE, the current deals on the XP1's are very attractive. No built in flash.

Fuji is a fringe system. Somewhat pricey. They have their quirks and you should do your homework before you buy into the system. tomen.de is a good place to start, in the Fuji archive. I went from 35 years with Nikon to 3 weeks with an NEX7 + CZ24 and then to Fuji. I'm very pleased with my decision.

Sorry to others for the long, off-topic, post.
 

Reality4711

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Both cameras will be replaced in 2016. The XE2 will be a minor upgrade, the XP1 is expected to be major.

The XE2 has PDAF auto focus, smaller, lighter. I'll use it with Fuji's 18/2, 27/2.8 and 35/1.4, perhaps with my larger 23/1.4 for a walk about camera. The XE1 and 2 are considered the best Fuji's in the handling/ergonomics area. They are a joy to shoot. Small, light, simple. Technical strengths are superb auto metering and white balance. If you get the shot right to begin with, the jpegs are superb and take skill to get the raws to their level. If you don't get it right, they have more than enough headroom to adjust. Not raw headroom but a couple of stops and strong highlight adjustments are well within the norm.

Th xp1 was their flagship. Slower CDAF auto focus. Slow operation. It's aimed at contemplative photographers who take their time. Very good with adapted glass. Otherwise same as above but in a larger package. It needs to be replaced and will be as better tech is already used in many other Fuji cams. It's rugged, used by a lot of documentary and art photography pro's.

Both use what Fuji calls an XTrans sensor. It's a 6x6 array as opposed to the Bayer 2x2. It takes a good dose of cpu to demosiac the files. In Adobe, about 3 times the time to import versus my old D800 files. File sizes are large, within 3 mb of D800 files. Support with Adobe is getting better but it still can be a challenge for landscape photographers. Once you've learned how to sharpen the files (simple) Adobe is fine but not the ultimate (again for landscape) When I have a shot Adobe can't handle I go to C1 in sessions mode for the demosiac and back into Adobe. The strength of the sensor is its dynamic range. Comparable to many full frame's at a fraction of the size and weight.

The XF lens line is are not cheap but they are superb. The XC line is cheaper. Slower and consumer oriented. The optics are fine but plastic instead of metal bodies. On their video side, lenses go over $30k. Coatings are superb. I can shoot into my South Florida sun and get away with it more times than not. I don't use filters and the bare minimum for hoods (like a 3/4" depth). They used to do some of Hassleblad's lenses as well as bodies. They don't make lousy lenses and probably never will.

Depends what you want for an ILC system. Carry everyday, general photography, an XE is a joy to use with the same IQ as their other X-Series cameras. For a workhorse, the successor to the XP1 or the dslr form factor XT1. I also have an XT1, gripped for use with my larger/heavier lenses. I could probably hammer nails with it and do no damage other than cosmetics. The body is one piece of cast magnesium. I don't like the form factor. For me, the dslr shape does not lend itself to smaller bodies. Others feel differently as I believe it's their top selling X-Series ILC.

If you don't need operational and AF speed, but prefer more grip than the smaller XE, the current deals on the XP1's are very attractive. No built in flash.

Fuji is a fringe system. Somewhat pricey. They have their quirks and you should do your homework before you buy into the system. tomen.de is a good place to start, in the Fuji archive. I went from 35 years with Nikon to 3 weeks with an NEX7 + CZ24 and then to Fuji. I'm very pleased with my decision.

Sorry to others for the long, off-topic, post.

Thank you for all info. I will be trying the xp1 in January.

So far only minus points are - size/big hands - cost/not working now and my software CS5 may not be updated by Adobe for xp2 and xe2 upgrades.

We'll see.

Meantime I will dig around my D800 setup to see what can be done to wind me back in time.

Regards

Sharkey
 
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