+ another 1 on this. Perhaps Apple engineers are perfect typers and the thought of anyone making a mistake was not thought of?
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+ another 1 on this. Perhaps Apple engineers are perfect typers and the thought of anyone making a mistake was not thought of?
PLEASE give us arrow keys...SOMEBODY!!!
+1000 on the arrow keys!!!!! I DON'T understand what a hack can't add them? Why isn't there something on Cydia? Nobody has been able to answer this. Is it just not possible? 10k useless themes...and not one useful hack that puts dang arrow keys on the keyboard.
Also, while they are at it, we desperately need a forward delete key for when placing that stupid cursor and if falls on the wrong side of the character to correct.
Overall? Still better on the ipad than a laptop. BUT WOW!!! These two little thing...or at least the arrow keys, would sure resolve a lot of frustration.
+1000 on the arrow keys!!!!! I DON'T understand what a hack can't add them? Why isn't there something on Cydia? Nobody has been able to answer this. Is it just not possible? 10k useless themes...and not one useful hack that puts dang arrow keys on the keyboard.
Also, while they are at it, we desperately need a forward delete key for when placing that stupid cursor and if falls on the wrong side of the character to correct.
Overall? Still better on the ipad than a laptop. BUT WOW!!! These two little thing...or at least the arrow keys, would sure resolve a lot of frustration.
I've never had any issue with the wifi whatsoever. Not fanboying it up either. I just haven't seen it. Not once.
Of course, I've never had the iPhone 4 antenna issue either (as far as dropping calls). Maybe I'm just lucky, but I'll take it.
Sorry you're having an issue!
Of course, I've never had the iPhone 4 antenna issue either (as far as dropping calls). Maybe I'm just lucky, but I'll take it.
Sorry you're having an issue!
Yea I can never get it right though. I get the magnifying thing to come up but the cursor always seems to want to go to the end or beginning of a word for some reason. Which is kind of a pain when I am trying to type in a url.
It even got to the point that I actually DID download a keyboard app that has arrow keys on it. The only problem is it is an outside app and just launches whatever url you enter into safari...and i prefer Atomic.
Or course, and As Apple did not put cursor keys there, then of course, that was the right thing to do, and there is no need to have them.
They would not make anything easier if they were there.
The fact you have to go into another keyboard layout to find the numbers key is also an excellent design choice. I especially love the way then you type a number and then press the space bar you get throw back to the alphabet keyboard again, then have to press another key to get back to the numbers again.
It could not be any better.
Yes. As explicitly mentioned in my post above, it all stopped working again on June 24th, the day that I added my new iPhone 4 to the network (possibly just a coincidence).jimHdk said:
I'll take the iPad back and get a new one. It'll be interesting to see if that does fix the problem. If it doesn't work then I don't think that does conclusively point the finger at my router but I'll cross that bridge if/when I come to it.
- Julian
I agree with that cursor keys would be a useful addition, although I'm not sure what the best way of fitting them in would be. Swapping back to letters after pressing space is a rather different issue as most of the time I will be entering letters after typing in a number. Maybe they could allow a double-tap of the .?123 key to lock the keyboard into numbers mode. Alternatively they could provide the option of making the .?123 key work as a modifier key like the shift key does already.
Try using the POPUp Magnifyer when typing with two hands
Personally, I USUALLY type by holding the pad in both hands, vertically, and kind of rock the pad back and forth to type. It is quite fast this way...until I come to a grinding halt to make a correction, have to switch the pad to one hand and use the magnifier to try to position it in the right place...but as somebody else said, it frequently does not land in the right spot. It tries to be smart...guessing where I want to go, but about 50% of the time it lands on the wrong side of where I dropped it.
But even if I am typing with the pad on a table or my lap, if my two hands are typing, which they usually are, regardless of how many or few of fingers I am using, it is a disruption to stop and change task.
Actually, I have seen other people comment similar as you...and it really makes me wonder if you even type...because I can't imagine any amount of typing, no matter how good a person is, that stopping to take the hands away from the keyboard, to go click and hold and wait a second for the magnifier pops up...which is slow to react...and then go back and forth a few times trying to get it to realize where I want it to go??? I mean, WTH??? Is it that hard to imagine even if you don't type that much that this is a pain in the arse?
I guess you don't use Cmnd/Ctrl Arrow Key or Delete on a real keyboard either?!?
Personally, I USUALLY type by holding the pad in both hands, vertically, and kind of rock the pad back and forth to type. It is quite fast this way...until I come to a grinding halt to make a correction, have to switch the pad to one hand and use the magnifier to try to position it in the right place...but as somebody else said, it frequently does not land in the right spot. It tries to be smart...guessing where I want to go, but about 50% of the time it lands on the wrong side of where I dropped it.
But even if I am typing with the pad on a table or my lap, if my two hands are typing, which they usually are, regardless of how many or few of fingers I am using, it is a disruption to stop and change task.
Actually, I have seen other people comment similar as you...and it really makes me wonder if you even type...because I can't imagine any amount of typing, no matter how good a person is, that stopping to take the hands away from the keyboard, to go click and hold and wait a second for the magnifier pops up...which is slow to react...and then go back and forth a few times trying to get it to realize where I want it to go??? I mean, WTH??? Is it that hard to imagine even if you don't type that much that this is a pain in the arse?
I guess you don't use Cmnd/Ctrl Arrow Key or Delete on a real keyboard either?!?
You would think that with all the extra real-estate on the ipad scree, that Apple could make a normal 4 row keyboard with numbers across the top.
Even crazier, make a keyboard with a keypad on the side when in landscape mode.
+1 on the arrow keys (that was crazy, to type +1 requires 5 keystrokes). The magnifier does not work well in the URL bar on the browser, since the magnifier lens is off the screen. Plus it is real slow.
How about add shortcuts back to the keyboard. Give us a ctrl key so you can do ctrl-x, ctrl-v, ctrl-c, ctrl-a for cut and paste. It just takes an ungodly amount of time to do that sort of thing the way that Apple implemented it. It is frustrating. End and home keys?
Without arrow keys, there Has been a number of times when filling out a form, that the text scrolls out of the window on the form, and gives you no way to go back up to see the text. Arrow keys would be magical, because they just work! Hey, like the form you fill out for this reply!
Even crazier, make a keyboard with a keypad on the side when in landscape mode.
+1 on the arrow keys (that was crazy, to type +1 requires 5 keystrokes). The magnifier does not work well in the URL bar on the browser, since the magnifier lens is off the screen. Plus it is real slow.
How about add shortcuts back to the keyboard. Give us a ctrl key so you can do ctrl-x, ctrl-v, ctrl-c, ctrl-a for cut and paste. It just takes an ungodly amount of time to do that sort of thing the way that Apple implemented it. It is frustrating. End and home keys?
Without arrow keys, there Has been a number of times when filling out a form, that the text scrolls out of the window on the form, and gives you no way to go back up to see the text. Arrow keys would be magical, because they just work! Hey, like the form you fill out for this reply!
Interesting. Out of curiosity, do you always have the iPhone 4 with you when you're using the iPad on that router? I wonder if the iPad issue occurs whenever the iPhone 4 connects to the router periodically (to check for email etc.)
I suspect it probably is an ironic coincidence because I sometimes switch off my WiFi altogether on the iPhone and I've still had issues even with the iPhone networking disabled. Even when I have iPhone WiFi on then it won't be collecting mail or anything because I'm a data/battery miser so I have all push switched off and all fetch set to manual.whooleytoo said:
My problems do seem to be so severe that maybe there is something in the hardware that's running slightly hotter than the design spec and overheating or something similar. I'm going to call Apple tomorrow and see how I return it for an exchange. Luckily it's entirely a web access device for me at the moment so I have no data on it apart from installed apps.
- Julian
What's with the hostility?
I stopped to really think about this and no, I don't use the arrow keys on a real keyboard either. My typos are either corrected by backspace (they're usually caught early) or by placing the mouse/cursor where I want to make a correction. I guess that's the difference and why I don't look for arrow keys. I can't imagine using the arrow keys for this, seems really tedious. But hey, different stokes.
(I type about 70 wpm on a real keyboard, and the majority of my bazillion posts here on MR were made on my iPad. So yes, I type. It's okay for different people to used different approaches. I only posted on this tangent at all because I was so puzzled by it.)
Have you tried it on other wireless networks? If it works at your mom's house but not yours, that tells me it's your network, not the iPad.
There is something wrong with your iPad. It should not be like this.
Return it for a new one.
Sorry...just a littel grumpy today...and not the first time I have read a reply to a pretty legit challenge that they didn't put arrow keys in place. It is frustrating. What can I say.
And your initial reply was like 'it is no big deal...can't even imagine it being a problem". Well, I can't imagine it not being a problem. My Palm Centro has the ability to back up and more forward with the cursor...at least left and right...up and down moves fields rather than up a line. And, the HTC Hero has arrow keys (I checked while I considered it for a few days).
I just think Apple needs to allow stuff like this to be developed. They did for the newton...and there were all kinds of cool apps modifying the system.
And I just don't understand why a hacker can't make an app for release in Cydia. It just doesn't make sense, that is all.
Anyway!
Had a TRENDnet router I noticed issues with, but said router would also drop my comcast connection because it perceived my DNS server as a threat every 2-3 days.
I decided to get an Airport Extreme instead. I use myPad at home and a lot of places with Wifi (I travel a lot). I haven't had any issues.
Not trying to deny that you have, but seriously... haven't had any issues.
I decided to get an Airport Extreme instead. I use myPad at home and a lot of places with Wifi (I travel a lot). I haven't had any issues.
Not trying to deny that you have, but seriously... haven't had any issues.
i never really even use arrow keys, didn't notice this was such a problem for people.
Don't you love how hostile people get when someone doesn't share the exact same usage patterns and experience?
