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Sadly, and I’ll admit I don’t really get what is required to make a leather product as far as “greenness,” but since an awful lot of people are still eating cows, it seems like leather is out there and available for use. I feel like often we are throwing out the baby with the bath water in terms of trying to be more green, in the sense that so many substitutes require many more chemicals and products than the item it is replacing.

Just for instance (and I know this is not relative, but it’s what I can think of right off the top of my head) - coffee creamer. An oat milk, nut milk, or other non-dairy creamer will usually have at least 6-8 ingredients, often including oils and thickeners. My organic, grass-fed cream contains CREAM. Period. Though I would avoid dairy if all I could purchase was factory farmed, I have no clue how I would substitute it. The stuff in those creamers is garbage. Not sure how I’m ”healthier” consuming that than good ole’ grass-fed, single ingredient cream.

Like I said, I know that’s a stretch of a comparison, but it seems like the substitutes do not always make much sense.

I'm with you on this one. I never got the anti-leather remarks for the reasons you mentioned.
 
glad, i returned the case after 3 days of using it with care. the case showed some little chips and artifacts. never again buying the finewoven case.
 
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I was in an Apple Store yesterday for a Genius appointment. Some of the display FineWoven cases were already showing signs of wear (mostly scratching). The problem is that, when leather scratches, it usually develops character (scratches and the like tend to increase leather’s aesthetic appeal), but the FineWoven material just looks beaten up. It definitely doesn’t feel like leather, either. To its credit, though, it feels better than Apple’s silicone cases.
 
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I was in an Apple Store yesterday for a Genius appointment. Some of the display FineWoven cases were already showing signs of wear (mostly scratching). The problem is that, when leather scratches, it usually develops character (scratches and the like tend to increase leather’s aesthetic appeal), but the FineWoven material just looks beaten up. It definitely doesn’t feel like leather, either. To its credit, though, it feels better than Apple’s silicone cases.
and expensive than silicone cases too. 🤣
 
How do the fine woven cases look when you take it out of your pocket? I liked the Apple leather because dust didn’t cling to it much, and it was easy to wipe off. The silicone cases would be covered in pocket debris, and it was more difficult to wipe it off.
 
Curious with how many further iPhone gens apple will carry on with this material.
As bad as the reviews are, clearly people still buying these. As long as it doesn't hurt their bottom line, they will continue. Their margins have to be incredible on these.
 
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As bad as the reviews are, clearly people still buying these. As long as it doesn't hurt their bottom line, they will continue. Their margins have to be incredible on these.
There’s more to it than that too. They build their brand on quality. Hard to argue that FineWoven fits the bill even if it makes a profit.
 
Black iPhone 15 Pro Max power button wears off. I think it is caused by the factory finewoven case, because the button was not worn when it was new. I've been carrying the phone in a case since it was new.
Since the power button of the factory finwoven case moves up and down, it can scratch the phone's power button. It's sad that the coating comes off the button so much. Unfortunately, you don't see traces of fingerprints. I wiped the button before taking the photo.
If you use this factory case, please check the power button of your phone. Visible in light. Problems can be expected with black and blue colors.
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Black iPhone 15 Pro Max power button wears off. I think it is caused by the factory finewoven case, because the button was not worn when it was new. I've been carrying the phone in a case since it was new.
Since the power button of the factory finwoven case moves up and down, it can scratch the phone's power button. It's sad that the coating comes off the button so much. Unfortunately, you don't see traces of fingerprints. I wiped the button before taking the photo.
If you use this factory case, please check the power button of your phone. Visible in light. Problems can be expected with black and blue colors.View attachment 2295593
But would not any case button pressing on it do this ?
 
Black iPhone 15 Pro Max power button wears off. I think it is caused by the factory finewoven case, because the button was not worn when it was new. I've been carrying the phone in a case since it was new.
Since the power button of the factory finwoven case moves up and down, it can scratch the phone's power button. It's sad that the coating comes off the button so much. Unfortunately, you don't see traces of fingerprints. I wiped the button before taking the photo.
If you use this factory case, please check the power button of your phone. Visible in light. Problems can be expected with black and blue colors.View attachment 2295593
That is barely noticeable.
 
Sadly, and I’ll admit I don’t really get what is required to make a leather product as far as “greenness,” but since an awful lot of people are still eating cows, it seems like leather is out there and available for use. I feel like often we are throwing out the baby with the bath water in terms of trying to be more green, in the sense that so many substitutes require many more chemicals and products than the item it is replacing.

Just for instance (and I know this is not relative, but it’s what I can think of right off the top of my head) - coffee creamer. An oat milk, nut milk, or other non-dairy creamer will usually have at least 6-8 ingredients, often including oils and thickeners. My organic, grass-fed cream contains CREAM. Period. Though I would avoid dairy if all I could purchase was factory farmed, I have no clue how I would substitute it. The stuff in those creamers is garbage. Not sure how I’m ”healthier” consuming that than good ole’ grass-fed, single ingredient cream.

Like I said, I know that’s a stretch of a comparison, but it seems like the substitutes do not always make it.
Your point was well said. Apple dropped the ball on substituting the leather case. We will see how the case sales and gross profit performance on overall Apple accessory product line sales and gross profit and if the performance will result dropping the case out from the market.
 
It’s my first apple case and so far I really love the feeling of the FineWoven but after 2 weeks it already looks pretty used and getting ugly. This case costs 70€ and I’m kinda disappointed it gets ugly so fast. I really take care of my things and never put my phone on dirty tables, so it’s not my fault the case looks like this. What’s your experience so far with the FW?View attachment 2292427
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I’ve seen some YouTube videos with good results with a little cleaning


Can give it a shot and see how it turns out. I have the evergreen and I washed it once when something stained it on the coffee table. But yeah kind of a bummer that the case needs it’s own care instructions

Let us know how it turns out
 
I hope everyone returns theirs.
It would have been the perfect opportunity for Apple to be Eco friendly and deliver a budget case.
Charge $29 for it and people would have been happy.
But no, they can't lose that $70 MSRP hole left from leather.

On Flossy Carter's iPhone 15 Pro Max review, he showed his, after a week of indoor use only. It looked like a truck drove over it.
 
Not sure how anyone is defending it.

It's a $59 leather replacement that costs 4 cents to make. Uneven cut outs. It creaks and makes noises because it doesnt fit the phone properly. The material is poor and does not hold up.

A lot of posters in the other threads that supported it came back a few weeks later returning it.

My brother who works at an Apple Store says they have to replace display models several times a day due to scratches.

Apple messed up on this one and im curious to see what they think of next year when they replace FW.
 
When even Apple employees try to persuade you not to take the FineWoven case, then you know it really sucks.
An Apple employee who discourages you from buying a FineWoven case is probably not going to be an Apple employee for long.
 
I'd been rocking Mujjo Leather case since. For curiosity I put my black Fine Woven case back on. And the weight difference is the 1st glaring difference. But what turned me off was how slippery the sides were on the FW case. I'm sure with time the sides would wear enough to be less slippery. But my Mujjo leather isn't so slippery out of the gate. The Mujjo just feels premium and worth the price point. The FW doesn't.
 
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