Is this why 5870 is still "unavailable", is there any sign of these new 6xxx series being made for Mac? Or should people still be buying the 5870 as the only high end option without flashing
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First ATI 6850 and 6870 benchmarks
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PC Impress had a field day. Not that you're going to see any benchmarks.
$200 is still the sweet spot after dealing with the reign of the HD 5800 at $300.
$200 is still the sweet spot after dealing with the reign of the HD 5800 at $300.
Here is an excellent review of both the 6870 and 6850:
http://www.anandtech.com/show/3987/amds-radeon-6870-6850-renewing-competition-in-the-midrange-market
Realize that although its named 6870, it is not meant to outright replace the 5870. The 5870 is still the performance single-card king on AMD's side. All of this is explained in the review I've linked to.
http://www.anandtech.com/show/3987/amds-radeon-6870-6850-renewing-competition-in-the-midrange-market
Realize that although its named 6870, it is not meant to outright replace the 5870. The 5870 is still the performance single-card king on AMD's side. All of this is explained in the review I've linked to.
thanks - i guess there are some improvements and its the same architecture so you cant expect much less!
sure sure, deep down i know you careActually, I wasn't thinking at youJust posted it because it gave a hint about the pricing.
GTX460 is just a bit more underpowered then 6850 and consumes a bit more power - so you would assume a lot of people go for the newer ATi, though the cheaper prices of GTX are also attractive. hopefully this can force nvidia to push harder
im very happy with a $200 spot! seems quite reasonable for the price - comparing this sort of same % performance 5 years ago
GTX460 is just a bit more underpowered then 6850 and consumes a bit more power - so you would assume a lot of people go for the newer ATi, though the cheaper prices of GTX are also attractive. hopefully this can force nvidia to push harder
NVidia has said that they will answer the call with OCed GTX 460s. That will bump the TDP but should provide nice performance for the $
Everybody is going to be a victim of that naming scheme unless they've been previously informed of it.
This is common knowledge in the windows world. It's pretty funny that Apple users have no clue in their walled garden. That's OK though, when the next generation of ATI cards come out Skeletor can buy a crapload of 6000 series cards dirt cheap and charge premium prices for them like they do now with the 5000 series.
There's also the possibility of a fully unlocked GF104 with 384 shaders as well.
And I wouldn't count out the possibility of GTX 560 as GTX 580 has more or less been confirmed; based on GF110 and has 512 CUDA cores. Maybe NVidia will come up with GTX 560 that is based on GF114 (updated GF104) which will have all 384 shaders.
From what I've heard, GTX480 and possible GTX580 may not have full 512 shaders available. 512 shaders only yields a 6% performance increase with a heightened TDP of 400W... saw that on expreview.com... not sure how accurate that report it, but I give it doubts... the article 404's now.
In any case, nVidia's only answer is too drop price and their GTX 470; which they aren't happy to do as that card is expensive to make. And even then, the ball is still in ATIs court; lower power consumption, heat, noise for slightly better performance. The same can be said with the GTX 460... all you can do is OC the GPU, to catch up in terms of performance, but you sacrifice all the rest.
I for one, would like to see how an similarly OC'd HD6850 and HD6870 fair against the EVGA FTW GTX460...
The article I read is still alive but in Finnish (that's a good site but of course, nothing is confirmed)
http://translate.google.fi/translat...deon-hd-6900-naytonohjaimille-geforce-gtx-580
NVidia already dropped the price of GTX 470 to 259$. I agree that ATI is currently the best buy, you get lower TDP and noise in same package plus at least I've always preferred ATI's monthly drivers that often increase the performance.
Hopefully that is true as the score is crazy! TDP is quite high compared to 58xx but I guess performance doesn't come for free
Only 5W higher than GTX 480's so again, performance per watt is significantly better. Only a month and we'll see those behemoths
Hopefully that is true as the score is crazy! TDP is quite high compared to 58xx but I guess performance doesn't come for free
Only a month and we'll see those behemoths
I was sad to see the TDP went up on the high end cards. Let's hope it isn't too bad. Maybe 255W is the maximum TDP it will ever reach.
with energy "awareness" of late i think its cruicial that this max TDP comes further down. if i were to see my machine chewing 255W of power id freak! my entire iMac doesnt consume any greater then 300W total underload! let alone just for a GPU
with energy "awareness" of late i think its cruicial that this max TDP comes further down. if i were to see my machine chewing 255W of power id freak! my entire iMac doesnt consume any greater then 300W total underload! let alone just for a GPU
For nVidia, having the GTX480 have a 300W TDP is good. They say good GPUs consume lots of power. Lol, poor nVidia.
There is no 68xx in AnandTech's GPU bench but I selected 5850 which is quite similar in performance
http://www.anandtech.com/bench/Product/178?vs=164