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B/D

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Nope. I can´t use Icloud Music Library due to mismatches with differents remasters. It´s horrible.
 

BrianBaughn

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Feb 13, 2011
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Nope. I can´t use Icloud Music Library due to mismatches with differents remasters. It´s horrible.

For me it even screwed up matching some plain old albums. That's why I started over completely with my library and added my albums from the Apple Music. Different remasters? Would it work if you re-tagged the album with your own info...different from theirs?
 

nico887

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Sep 18, 2018
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Thank you B / D and Brian for your answers.

Regarding re-tagging, it doesn't change anything as Apple Match is using the wave signature for its algorithm to get it matched. I have tried several workarounds and no success as of now. Remastered albums are matched with an old version of the track that is to say The Apple Music version -.

Still looking for a workaround for force upload rather than matching ...
 

B/D

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I found a solution. Clunky, but works.

@nico887

Take a song that is mismatched instead of uploaded. With Audacity, add one minute of silence at the beginning of said song.

Add it to Itunes. It will be uploaded now. Delete the original. Then, on the preferences of the song, adjust the playback to start on the 1:00 mark, so you don´t have to wait one minute in silence. This will be propagated to all your devices through Icloud.

Works everytime.
 

karnsculpture

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Feb 19, 2006
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I've taken to ripping whole "sides" of albums with songs joined for specific masterings. This definitely works, as long as you are happy to not have the option to quickly skip tracks. For albums I love it's worth it, and gives a more vinyl-like listening experience.
 

ltb7

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I found a solution. Clunky, but works.

@nico887

Take a song that is mismatched instead of uploaded. With Audacity, add one minute of silence at the beginning of said song.

Add it to Itunes. It will be uploaded now. Delete the original. Then, on the preferences of the song, adjust the playback to start on the 1:00 mark, so you don´t have to wait one minute in silence. This will be propagated to all your devices through Icloud.

Works everytime.

also can try this:

if a song is not matching and it is in apple music, changing the end time of the song has fixed the issue for me (FYI - did this prior to apple music)

for example, if my song is 2:07 (2 minutes, 7 seconds) and the exact apple song match shows time as 2:06 then change your song to 2:06 and it should then match
 
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Shirasaki

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I found a solution. Clunky, but works.

@nico887

Take a song that is mismatched instead of uploaded. With Audacity, add one minute of silence at the beginning of said song.

Add it to Itunes. It will be uploaded now. Delete the original. Then, on the preferences of the song, adjust the playback to start on the 1:00 mark, so you don´t have to wait one minute in silence. This will be propagated to all your devices through Icloud.

Works everytime.
A quirky choice but interesting nonetheless.

Although I am not entirely surprised by the fact that iCloud music library is still garbage for the most part. And Apple music recommendation is still Dr Dre and Apple curator’s favourite, not user’s favourite.
 

nico887

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Sep 18, 2018
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Paris, France
Thank you all for these smart workarounds !

Have you tried with the new music app (from Catalina) if the matching algorithm has been modified to accurately match the tracks and not match remastered album with the original one ?

Thanks a lot !
 

karnsculpture

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Feb 19, 2006
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I am using Catalina and aside from changes to the UI which are OK, nothing else seems different. Mis-matching is still happening. The new music app is doing everything else I want and is a bit leaner. There were some bugs in the first couple of beta versions but things are (touch wood) a lot better now.
 

B/D

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At least the performance is better compared to Itunes?.

Perhaps the matching algorithm simply cannot be that accurate. Perhaps the tech isn´t there yet. Which is why a force upload option is imperative, to correct mistakes...
 

B/D

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It turns out that you CAN force the system to upload everything added to your library by converting the 16/44 files to 96khz/24bits ones, but this is not a very convenient solution since it creates distortion (because of the oversampling).
 

PutTheFBackIn

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This is, in my opinion, the biggest issue with Apple Music. Doubly so considering Google has had this feature for years. As someone who has a large collection of remastered albums, I have a lot of incorrect matches in my library.

That being said, there is a workaround. It's not the most convenient method, but it gets the job done. And that is to add 20 seconds of silence to the end of your version of the song. I've noticed doing 10 seconds isn't enough to trick the match. I found the sweet spot at 20 seconds. Sometimes you can get away with a few seconds less. Again, not the most convenient method, but the tradeoff is worth it imo.

Also, you want to be sure that you add the silence using a LOSSLESS music editor. Most editors reencode the file you are editing and then reencodes the output file, resulting in a loss of quality. Luckily, there are programs that don't do this. My personal favorite is Fission by Rogue Amoeba (Link HERE). Fission allows for edits of music files without reencoding. Great product by a great company. Another cool feature of Fission is that it has the ability to remove purchase tags (such as iTunes purchases) from your songs.
 
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B/D

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Yes. YES! Thank you very much for your thoughtful, detailed post @PutTheFBackIn . Glad to see I am not the only one who thinks this issue with Apple Music is very important . So much so for me, in fact, that I am not using iCloud Music Library at the moment, just streaming from the Apple Music catalogue. And I won't use it (ICML), until I know for certain that the music I upload to the cloud its MY copy of the music, not Apple different (and in most cases, inferior), remaster, which makes a spotty listening experience when listen to an album from the cloud, since there are uploaded and matched songs... ¡within the same album!

If Apple implements this, the service will be the best available when comes to manage your music library in combination with the streaming catalog. It's about time.

Excuse my English
 
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B/D

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Things have not change one bit with the latest version of the music app in Mac Os Catalina. Mismatches still occur. Quite frequently, in fact. Oh well.
 

B/D

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No, I never use use any beta version. I will report back when big sur is officially released.
 
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