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Flash 10.2 beta and the MacBook Air
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That was the first thing I checked; add-ons plugins show Flash 10.2.151.49.
I also tried it both in Safari and Firefox. Both of them still bog down the CPU.
What gpu is in your MBA?
it had higher cpu utilization when the video was still caching. it was around 30-40%.. after the video is fully cached/downloaded and it is just playing, it drops to around 20%..
I think there's a pretty big gap between the 9400M and the 320M..
Does anyone else's Flash 10.2 beta crash like crazy?
I'm running it on Firefox 4.0b7...and it crashes almost every time AFTER I watch a YouTube vid. Also crashes randomly on Facebook and other sites. What's going on?
I'm running it on Firefox 4.0b7...and it crashes almost every time AFTER I watch a YouTube vid. Also crashes randomly on Facebook and other sites. What's going on?
I've heard from others that it works well with Safari.
It is still in beta, after all.
I know, I just want to know if this is a common user experience.
Also, kind of unrelated, but I can't get HTML5 YouTube vids to work on my Firefox 4.0b7.
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Did you uninstall the previous version of Flash? I personally don't know if it matters but Adobe really insists that you uninstall the previous version, first.
Sorry about that. This would definitely frustrate me. I guess only drastic measures remain like uninstalling and reinstalling Flash, which you've probably already done, or even doing a clean install of Snow Leopard.
If you have problems regarding Flash 10.2 stop thinking about a clean install of Snow Leopard. Keep in mind that it is a Beta! Beta is usually meant for Developers and not for the normal user ;-)
I installed the 10.2 beta and tested it with the avatar 1080p thats posted on this thread.
The 10.1 version gets about 75% CPU usage using 1080p
The 10.2 version gets about 30% CPU usage using 1080p
I did the experiment with a ultimate 11.6 1.6GHZ C2D
The 10.1 version gets about 75% CPU usage using 1080p
The 10.2 version gets about 30% CPU usage using 1080p
I did the experiment with a ultimate 11.6 1.6GHZ C2D
HTML5 plays video. That's pretty much what they were comparing to. In most practical applications, the only true limitation people see with HTML5 is the lack of the ability of games and non-movie animations allowing real-time triggered audio. This means, as of right now, if you want flash programs and games to use sound (other than some embedded background music that plays through the whole thing, or this is a movie), you need to do it in flash.
The thing is, if you want a real test to see the difference, you have to compare Youtube 720p flash to html5 720p since you can't get it to play html5 1080p.
The thing is, if you want a real test to see the difference, you have to compare Youtube 720p flash to html5 720p since you can't get it to play html5 1080p.
How do you check the version of Flash installed?
I have an ultimate MBA 11", and even in Safari, running what I think is version 10.2 of flash, I see CPU util just for flash go as high as 120% while playing the Avatar trailer in 1080p. And thats even after waiting for it to download the whole trailer.
If it says I'm running an older version of flash, what am I supposed to do to fix it? I installed 10.2.
Update:
I ran the uninstaller then installed 10.2. Now its reporting 20% instead of 120% CPU util.
I have an ultimate MBA 11", and even in Safari, running what I think is version 10.2 of flash, I see CPU util just for flash go as high as 120% while playing the Avatar trailer in 1080p. And thats even after waiting for it to download the whole trailer.
If it says I'm running an older version of flash, what am I supposed to do to fix it? I installed 10.2.
Update:
I ran the uninstaller then installed 10.2. Now its reporting 20% instead of 120% CPU util.
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Yeah. Apparently the flash 10.2 beta doesn't cleanly install over an older version of flash. That's why they distribute the uninstaller with it, they mention to run that first, then install 10.2. If you don't, you have some of two flash engines running and it chews up major hardware.
I've installed it on my MBA and I regret it a bit. Doesn't play nice with Safari extensions and I don't see much improvement. Fans kicks in more than I'd like. Still better than the craptastic copy of Flash bundled with Chrome. That thing kicked in my fans on max and killed 45% of my battery playing a 42 minute episode of Castle on Hulu. Anyone knows if Chrome even uses 10.1? The performance under Chrome was so bad I really think there was no gpu help there.
Edit: PS. I did not have another version of Flash installed when I tried Chrome.
Edit: PS. I did not have another version of Flash installed when I tried Chrome.
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Just wanted to point out that currently not all video on the Web will experience the performance boost from 10.2. There is a new video API in Flash 10.2 that is pretty easy to use but it must be used for Flash to take full advantage of the gpu. So some of you will notice certain videos playing as well as with 10.1. The API is very easy to use however and it is only a matter of time before all Flash video players are updated to support the gpu enhancements with 10.2.
10.2 also adds amazing vector compositing over video. dozens of animated vector sprites can be overlayed over playing video all on the gpu. This of course was possible before but it really took a hit on some systems.
10.2 also adds amazing vector compositing over video. dozens of animated vector sprites can be overlayed over playing video all on the gpu. This of course was possible before but it really took a hit on some systems.
I just tested this new flash version and it seems that it still doesn't beat YouTube5 v2 extension, I get almost 25-30% CPU usage without Safari so in total would be nearly 40% but using YouTube5, I get the same result plus Safari.
Yeah, I can't play Poker with HTML5. So Flash > HMTL 5.
Who cares it uses 40% CPU on youtube. It plays fine without a problem.
Not if you want to deliver that video well with dynamic bit rates depending on connection quality, or if you need any form of stream ripping protection (which like it or not most professional video does).
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On a 13" ultimate here and 1080p avatar trailer playback is at average 30% throughout, no spikes or peaks, even at the beginning when I clicked the play button. 20% flash plugin and 10% safari. Pretty damn impressive.
Note: I was STREAMING the video from youtube, not downloaded yet.
Note: I was STREAMING the video from youtube, not downloaded yet.
CPU usage is what determines battery life. The lower the CPU usage, the longer the battery life.don't really care about the CPU usage ...