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Forget about 12" Apple laptops. Give me the 11.1" Sony TZ version. I want something that is so small and light that I may just carry it with me everywhere when I am not using my 17" MBP.

Give me a laptop with 7.5 hours of battery life....

Give me a laptop with NO optical drive and a 64GB SSD for speedy performance

Give me a machine with an underpowered processor that just gets me by at typing papers and emails and surfing the web and doing some small multimedia work so I don't have to worry about burning my legs off when Safari is open, or so that my battery can make it to that 7 hours of life.

Give me built-in Sprint Broadband so that I can surf the web anywhere at any time.

All I need is 2 USB ports and a mini DVI connection and I am fine, everything else can be done wirelessly or through a hub. I am just sitting back and waiting for MWSF 08. If the ultraportable MacBook doesn't come I won't be surprised or upset. That just means that Sony will have to get my $2500 for an 11.1" laptop with kick @$$ battery life and that I will have to get used to Vista or find a copy of XP to put back on my machine.

I'd rather stick with Mac OS X for my personal computing needs, but if I suddenly desire an 11.1" machine and Apple doesn't offer one.... well, there you have it.

Just buy an OQO Model 02. I have it and its almost exactly what you are asking for. It has 5 inch screen with active digitizer, 1.5 ghz Via processor, 1gb ram,60 Gb HD, wifi, bluetooth, optional verizon or sprint WAN, 1 usb, Hdmi out and qith extended batter it runs up to 6 hours.

check it at www.oqo.com
 
Some of you guys are forgetting something:

A MBP 13" would be smaller than a Macbook foot print, basically because Apple wouldn't build a big border around the screen, as it has in the Macbook. So the overall foot print would be smaller and potentially not much bigger than the Ibook.

Comparing the Ibook to the Macbook as proof of the size difference is assuming the MBP 13" will have the same footprint size of the Macbook. Its already been commented that this is unlikely if Apple does make this new laptop 13".

and the OP was comparing screen sizes. Not laptop sizes
 
It's not, IMO. But you missed the point. The 13" MacBook is the equivalent of the iBook, i.e. somewhat lacking in the hardware department. We're after a 12" (or even 13") MacBook PRO, whilst currently the smallest is a massive 15".

This is exactly why I would like a smaller MacBook Pro. To me, the 15" just seems a bit too large. But I definitely would not step down to the 13" MacBook, because as a web designer and photo lover I feel constrained by the MacBook's graphics capabilities. I wouldn't refuse to buy a new MacBook Pro because it's 15" (IMHO, my 12" PowerBook is starting to feel kind of small, and I could get used to the 15"), but having the option of a 13" would be really great.
 
I hope that Apple comes out with a 32" Mac Book Extreme. Go big, or go home.:D

Can you imagine the yellow screen defects on an MBE? I can hear it now...

"The #*&@ing bottom third of my screen is a Sea of Yellow! WTF???!!!"
 
You are all completely insane.

12" 1.18 x 10.9 x 8.6
13.3"1.08 x 12.78 x 8.92

How can you honestly tell me that the 13" is too big compared to the 12"?

It's about the weight for me for an ultraportable, as much as the slightly handier size. But the 12" weighed as much as the Macbook - after I found that out I kind of failed to see the point at all.

Fortunately not being wedded to OS X, I have options right now and need not wait for some defect-ridden machine to come out from Apple in the near future - although of course I will be compelled to pick one up and bitch about it as well.
 
It's about the weight for me for an ultraportable, as much as the slightly handier size. But the 12" weighed as much as the Macbook - after I found that out I kind of failed to see the point at all.

Fortunately not being wedded to OS X, I have options right now and need not wait for some defect-ridden machine to come out from Apple in the near future - although of course I will be compelled to pick one up and bitch about it as well.

Oh... that sounds nice. A product from Apple that not only filled one of their gapping holes in their lineup, but one that worked as it was supposed to and run OS X. Sign me up.
 
how about the start of a 14"
;)

Don't diss a 14" MBP. If they can make it weigh 1/2 the weight of the current 15" one, it'd be amazing. My last laptop was 14", but it was about as light as (if not lighter then) a 12" PB, and I loved it so much.

It's about the slim and lightness of it, not the screen size (IMHO).
 
Mostly because it's almost two inches wider. You should know that, you looked up the measurements.

Further, the issue is moreso that some people want a smaller "pro" machine rather than anything else. If the MB was aluminum, had a matte option, and a discrete graphics card, it would be less of an issue. Other people want a "true ultraportable" in the sense of it being less than an inch thick, around 2 lbs, and smaller than a 12" screen. Apple can't please both with the same machine if they come out with one, but they won't please either with the macbook. Then there's the nuts that want multi-touch and a 16-core processor together in a floating orb with enough flash memory to hold their ever-important iTunes library... and a built-in can opener.

-Ado

+1 (With a bullet!)

Exactly correct!
 
Forget about 12" Apple laptops. Give me the 11.1" Sony TZ version. I want something that is so small and light that I may just carry it with me everywhere when I am not using my 17" MBP.

Give me a laptop with 7.5 hours of battery life....

Give me a laptop with NO optical drive and a 64GB SSD for speedy performance

Give me a machine with an underpowered processor that just gets me by at typing papers and emails and surfing the web and doing some small multimedia work so I don't have to worry about burning my legs off when Safari is open, or so that my battery can make it to that 7 hours of life.

Give me built-in Sprint Broadband so that I can surf the web anywhere at any time.

All I need is 2 USB ports and a mini DVI connection and I am fine, everything else can be done wirelessly or through a hub. I am just sitting back and waiting for MWSF 08. If the ultra-portable MacBook doesn't come I won't be surprised or upset. That just means that Sony will have to get my $2500 for an 11.1" laptop with kick @$$ battery life and that I will have to get used to Vista or find a copy of XP to put back on my machine.

I'd rather stick with Mac OS X for my personal computing needs, but if I suddenly desire an 11.1" machine and Apple doesn't offer one.... well, there you have it.

Completely agree...the smaller notebooks I see my fellow law school-mates using, its sometimes annoying. Two are using the sony 11.1" vaio, freaking thing is sick! Others are using the hp 13" tablet pc, those are starting to catch my attention as well...I just got a MBP but for different reasons than portability so its just a matter of preference. I might get a new 13.3 in January!
 
Oh... that sounds nice. A product from Apple that not only filled one of their gapping holes in their lineup, but one that worked as it was supposed to and run OS X. Sign me up.

Many's the time that I write a post and realise it was worded in a way prone to misinterpretation.

I already have, and have had for some time, ultraportables which have no analog in the Apple world - either in terms of engineering, build quality, size or weight (Like the PB12" the Duo was actually pretty heavy for what it was, not to mention mine were almost as bad as the current Macs in terms of the number of times they were in and out of the repair shop - the only genuinely unreliable pre-current Macs I've owned) - thanks to Sony and even, gasp, Dell (D430, which I have to say I'm not as fond of in comparison to the Sonys but I like it in it's own way as it reminds me of the old Sony two-stage laptop).

When Apple comes out with one, I will of course be compelled to pick it up and bitch about it, because it's going to be worse in every way except for the looks.. Call me a sucker (I won't if you wont) but I like pretty things - although only if I know I have something else I can actually rely on.
 
Before I got my Macbook I considered getting a used 12 inch Powerbook but they aren't as powerful in terms of processing and don't have the intel advantages. I love my Macbook however if there was a 12-13 pro machine with powerful graphics then I would love that more. :D
 
When I decided to make the switch, I was very surprised with Apple's lineup. I couldn't believe that their smallest "pro" machine was 15" and their standard machine only came in 13". I soon learned that a smaller "pro" machine was likely on its way, but I had really hoped to walk away with a black or white 15" laptop. I didn't need the good graphics, I don't like the aluminum look and because it only leaves the house twice a week, I wasn't concerned with portability. As I'm getting more comfortable with my MacBook, I am starting to see why Apple is getting more popular. I would just think they'd win over more with a greater variety. The responses in this thread about a smaller pro machine show that, and while there may not be as many, I'm sure there are others out there like me who would like a basic 15" notebook....
 
... I had really hoped to walk away with a black or white 15" laptop...

This is so interesting because I had wanted an aluminum 12" MacBook Pro, or maybe would have settled for a 13" aluminum MacBook if they could have found some way to stick an appropriate pricetag on it. I knew I didn't want a 15" but on the lower end machines, the black and white plastics reminded me of ibooks. Aluminum is still the new black for me i guess, at least in notebook machines.

Anyway you're right about the variety in our specs for the perfect machine. We must collectively be driving Apple crazy while they plan their next big attack on our wallets. But they don't seem to mind going nuts as long as the background music is still ka ching ka ching ka ching.
 
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