Found an iPhone

[Roessnakhan]

Should s/he try to locate the rightful owner? In an ideal world, of course. The person should try and find the rightful owner, but I am not going to call them a thief if they keep it. I would wager that a lot of people here would be tempted to keep the phone as well (and probably would), even those that claim the person either stole it, or should try to find its owner.

If it were lost (not stolen), you would also think the rightful owner would have had the same responsibility to keep an eye on their, let's face it, very expensive phone?

The one who found the phone is not depriving the owner of the phone, the owner itself is responsible for its loss, if it was in fact, lost (not stolen).

 

[pukifloyd]

try to find a contact on the phone or give it to orange...they might look up for the owner...

peace of mind > money/iphone.

 

[sparrky]

So it's ok for someone to post about how they're depriving the rightful owner of what is, let's face it, a very expensive phone?

No, but "the general" is just a proud supporter of thieves. Or he's a troll...or maybe both. He's more than happy to offer advice to anyone who steals phones on how to keep and use them, and tries to shame those who do the right thing. Just ignore him. You just know someone who read his advice on stealing will end up with his phone someday.

 

[MTI]

karma, as we all know, is a bitch.

 

[-aggie-]

No, but "the general" is just a proud supporter of thieves. Or he's a troll...or maybe both. He's more than happy to offer advice to anyone who steals phones on how to keep and use them, and tries to shame those who do the right thing. Just ignore him. You just know someone who read his advice on stealing will end up with his phone someday.

I don't think "The General" actually feels that way. It's probably more like the example of the guy returning $50. If it was really feasible to return the iPhone and get it to the rightful owner, then he'd probably do it. However, he can feel free to correct me.

Edit: And he has corrected me!
VVVVV

 

[The General]

Finders keepers, losers weepers.

Try not to lose your iPhone. It's not the responsibility of others to track you down and give it to you. The world doesn't revolve around you.

I don't condone theft. Theft is me taking someones phone while he's not looking. Theft is not walking along and finding an iPhone on the ground. That's called finding something.

 

[thelatinist]

Or he's a troll...

He's always been a troll. He's almost as bad as TheSpaz.

 

[-aggie-]

He's always been a troll. He's almost as bad as TheSpaz.

Hey, now, those are big shoes to fill.

 

[thelatinist]

Hey, now, those are big shoes to fill.

If anyone can do it, he can.

By the way, -aggie-, what's with the name change? And how did you get them to change it?

 

[MattyMac]

Possibly try to find its owner?

Do this please!

 

[theNEOone]

don't let the goodie-two-shoes get under your skin. make an attempt to find the owner. don't kill yourself doing this, however. the moron lost his/her phone. it's not your job to be their cleaning lady. if finding the owner doesn't work after a few decent attempts, then enjoy your new iphone.


=|

 

[eshroom]

I found a pretty expensive Nokia smartphone couple of months back. I used it to call one of the last dialed numbers and arranged a time, suitable for me, that the owner could come to me.

Total money wasted by me = 0 (I used their phone to call).
Total time 2x30sec. phone calls. 2 minutes at my place while I was, in any case, procrastinating.

I don't think it's too much to expect others to do the same. The phone becomes unusable in your own country and selling it would be even more of a crime than keeping it in the first place.

 

[Bungle73]

If it were lost (not stolen), you would also think the rightful owner would have had the same responsibility to keep an eye on their, let's face it, very expensive phone?

The one who found the phone is not depriving the owner of the phone, the owner itself is responsible for its loss, if it was in fact, lost (not stolen).

Finders keepers, losers weepers.

Try not to lose your iPhone. It's not the responsibility of others to track you down and give it to you. The world doesn't revolve around you.

So you've never lost anything? I bet you have and I bet you would expect who ever found it to take steps to try to return it to you.

Returning a lost item is a common courtesy, but these days I guess some people are too self-centred do take 2 minutes out of their time to do something that might actually help somebody.

I don't condone theft. Theft is me taking someones phone while he's not looking. Theft is not walking along and finding an iPhone on the ground. That's called finding something.

Theft: (the act of) dishonestly taking something which belongs to someone else and keeping it. Seems to sum up the situation we have here.

 

[GeekGirl*]

Karma will get you return the phone.

 

[ckong]

Let's face it people. Finding the owner is not that hard. Just leave the thing plugged in and sooner or later, they or one of their friends/family will call.

(Or, just take the thing to their service provider and give it to them if you don't have a charger.)

Keeping a lost item (costing hundreds of dollars; probably worth > $400) when easily finding the owner is plain wrong.

 

[Sam21]

This reminds me of one of the strangest nights of my life.. I had been out clubbing in London with a couple of friends when one of my female friends realised she had lost her phone (around 3am)..

A few minutes later I receive a text message from it full of expletives and insults. A few seconds later another member of our party does also..
We tried phoning it and a girl answered and started slagging us off, we asked for her to return it and got told where to go!
We kept phoning it and received plenty of insults but didn't give up hope..

Eventually at around 4:30am someone new answered and said they had found the phone on the pavement, we arranged for them to leave it on a bench outside a pub a few miles away.
As we pulled up outside the pub I could see a dark object on a bench so got out and picked it up, as I got back in my car, a black Golf which I hadn't noticed as it had been parked up with lights off, roared away. We then got a phone call saying they had seen us pick it up, so we thanked them alot.

When we looked through phone they had texted just about everyone including her mum and boyfriend who was in South Africa at the time. They had also had a 7 minute phonecall with her boyfriend which had used up all her credit and which we later found out consisted of them telling her boyfriend that she had slept with loads of people since he had been away etc. Bad times!

We guess that when they had run out of credit they just threw it away and these other kind people had found it, not nice to have to explain to your mum, boyfriend and friends why they had 100 abusive messages on their phones though!

Just goes to show there are still good people around, and bad also!

 

[The General]

So you've never lost anything? I bet you have and I bet you would expect who ever found it to take steps to try to return it to you.

You should try not to assume things. I have never lost my iPhone, and if I did, I would use Find My iPhone to try and find it, but I certainly wouldn't expect the person who finds it to return it to me. I'm not that optimistic and self-centered. I would expect them to keep it or sell it.

Returning a lost item is a common courtesy, but these days I guess some people are too self-centred do take 2 minutes out of their time to do something that might actually help somebody.

It is thoughtful and courteous, but it is not absolutely necessary nor is it a legal obligation. On two occasions, I have found cell phones and returned them to their owners. They were not iPhones.

Theft: (the act of) dishonestly taking something which belongs to someone else and keeping it. Seems to sum up the situation we have here.

There's nothing dishonest about finding an iPhone on the ground. There IS something dishonest about taking someone's iPhone from their purse while their aren't looking.

 

[richard.mac]

Finders keepers, losers weepers.

Try not to lose your iPhone. It's not the responsibility of others to track you down and give it to you. The world doesn't revolve around you.

I don't condone theft. Theft is me taking someones phone while he's not looking. Theft is not walking along and finding an iPhone on the ground. That's called finding something.

theres a thing called conscience and it makes people return items a lot more valuable than a phone.

and would you like you iPhone returned if it was stolen? or would you apply the same philosophy?

 

[rKunda]

theres a thing called conscience and it makes people return items a lot more valuable than a phone.

and would you like you iPhone returned if it was stolen? or would you apply the same philosophy?

Your problem is in trying to reason with him. Just glance at much of his comments. Don't get me wrong, I agree with your sentiment, but what used to be much more common, decency, is lost on some people.

 

[jav6454]

He's always been a troll. He's almost as bad as TheSpaz.

You haven't seen real troll.... yet

Hey, now, those are big shoes to fill.

Not that big. Spaz is more of a drama queen, General, well... he has it his way.

 

[Bungle73]

You should try not to assume things. I have never lost my iPhone, and if I did, I would use Find My iPhone to try and find it,

Don't try and tell me you've never lost anything because I know you have; everyone has.

but I certainly wouldn't expect the person who finds it to return it to me. I'm not that optimistic and self-centered. I would expect them to keep it or sell it.

How is expecting someone who finds your lost phone to try to return it to you "self-centred"? You've got your ideas all skew-whiff. Now, keeping a phone that you find that doesn't belong to you and not making an effort to find the owner, now that IS self-centred.

It is thoughtful and courteous, but it is not absolutely necessary nor is it a legal obligation. On two occasions, I have found cell phones and returned them to their owners. They were not iPhones.

So if they had been iPhones you would have kept them?

There's nothing dishonest about finding an iPhone on the ground. There IS something dishonest about taking someone's iPhone from their purse while their aren't looking.

Keeping something you find when you could easily find the owner is dishonest.

 

[eshroom]

It is thoughtful and courteous, but it is not absolutely necessary nor is it a legal obligation. On two occasions, I have found cell phones and returned them to their owners. They were not iPhones.

Ummmm, actually it is a legal obligation. If found in a public space you must hand it over to the police, if in a private space to the proprietor. You have a specified time limit for it to be claimed (varies) after which it becomes yours.

Only if the property is abandoned may you keep it straight. By law, abandoned is defined by where the property is found and the condition it's in, so if you found it all beaten up with a cracked screen in a bin, then yes, The General, by all means finders keepers.

 

[thelatinist]

You haven't seen real troll.... yet

Not in this thread, but I've been around long enough to have seen him at his trolling, ban-earning worst. I can't for the life of me understand while he's not been permanently banned.

 

[applefool]

intense thread.