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I think the only way Apple would ever be able to clear up this misconception (that apps in the app switcher are actually using resources) would be to get rid of the app switcher altogether. Why people continue to liken iOS to Android in this respect will forever confuse me. I see it so frequently with iPhone users where they go into their app switcher immediately after closing an app to swipe it away. What they don't understand is that by doing that, it's actually costing them battery life because iOS has to start from scratch and reload everything when they go to use that app again.

There's hundreds of articles out there explaining this if anybody thinks I'm full of it.

That isn't strictly true as some apps cause more battery drain when left than when closed.

Three that I can think of straight away are:

WhatsApp
Facebook
Facebook Messenger.

If i leave those apps in the switcher then the background activity keeps increasing. As an example at one point all three apps on my phone in a 24hr period had around 30mins of actual usage and almost 4hrs of background activity!!! This is on an iPhone X running the latest OS and App versions. However if I close those apps after use then i don't get more than about 20-30 mins background activity in any 24hr period.

Granted this is more of an App issue and than an iOS issue. But if the app is to be suspended after a period of inactivity then it should stop ALL functions and activity unless explicitly expressed by the user.

I've stopped using the facebook app now and use a safari shortcut instead.

Since always closing these 3 apps (now 2) i find that i have around 10% more battery left between charges. But the rest i leave to suspend as with testing it never made a positive difference for battery life.

Screenshot here to show what I mean about WhatsApp. This is from today with me force closing the app after use.

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This is one that I saved when I started testing and was from leaving the app open. As you can see the time on background activity is near double the time in use. This is in a location with a full WiFi signal so it’s not as if the app is looking for a signal.

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proper dark mode. i said dark mode, not some "inversion" to create dark.
I think this is coming now that OLED cat is out of the bag. I expected it to come alongside OLED though...
 
IOS12 should be purely a performance enhancement and bugfix release except for one feature:

Bluetooth Mouse Support! They don’t even have to make it available for general navigation. Just support it so a remote desktop APP can use a mouse!
I’m SOO fed up with no being able to just use my iPad as my computing device, but until I from time to time can take over a MAC or Windows Remote Desktop and work on it, my iPad will just be an entertainment device.
 
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That isn't strictly true as some apps cause more battery drain when left than when closed.

Three that I can think of straight away are:

WhatsApp
Facebook
Facebook Messenger.

If i leave those apps in the switcher then the background activity keeps increasing. As an example at one point all three apps on my phone in a 24hr period had around 30mins of actual usage and almost 4hrs of background activity!!! This is on an iPhone X running the latest OS and App versions. However if I close those apps after use then i don't get more than about 20-30 mins background activity in any 24hr period.

Granted this is more of an App issue and than an iOS issue. But if the app is to be suspended after a period of inactivity then it should stop ALL functions and activity unless explicitly expressed by the user.

I've stopped using the facebook app now and use a safari shortcut instead.

Since always closing these 3 apps (now 2) i find that i have around 10% more battery left between charges. But the rest i leave to suspend as with testing it never made a positive difference for battery life.

Screenshot here to show what I mean about WhatsApp. This is from today with me force closing the app after use.

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This is one that I saved when I started testing and was from leaving the app open. As you can see the time on background activity is near double the time in use. This is in a location with a full WiFi signal so it’s not as if the app is looking for a signal.

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This is the exception rather than the rule. Apps that don't follow the guidelines (like the three you mentioned) along with unavoidable lockups are the reasons Apple still gives us the ability to kill apps.
 
This is the exception rather than the rule. Apps that don't follow the guidelines (like the three you mentioned) along with unavoidable lockups are the reasons Apple still gives us the ability to kill apps.

Yes, I highlighted that in my post saying that I leave all others.

The problem is partly Apples though. They should enforce the rules or not allow them on the App Store. A rule is there to be obeyed by all and there shouldn’t be any exceptions. Especially when Apple (and other smartphone makers) have such a hard time with battery life.

Hopefully they will address this more in iOS 12
 
1. Perfect Dark Mode

2. Group notification based on App

3. Always on display

4. Updated CC with more toggle switch options with 3D Touch menus
 
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I’d like Apple to actually have their own QA/QC for software instead of expecting developers and public beta testers to act as free labour filing report after report just to try and get the OS back to a competent state. That is hostile and abusive behaviour. I’m willing to help with polishing and reporting obscure bugs but not with basic broken functionality. I’m struggling without work currently yet I’ve given Apple a huge amount in in-kind QA/QC. That isn’t right so it has to stop.

Apple has QA people. In fact, I work with a guy whose last day is today. He's leaving us to go to Apple as a QA Engineer. And he'd worked there in the past as a QA Engineer.

I'm honestly not sure where you got this crazy idea that Apple doesn't have QA people.
 
What I’d like...
- Mouse support on the iPad
- The missing iPhone apps to finally come to the iPad...ie Weather, Calculator, Health and Activity now that that stuff is synced in iCloud anyway (ie give the user the choice to sync it to the iPad too), and a dedicated Phone app with access to voicemails for the iPad’s WiFi calling feature...much neater than having it in FaceTime
- Uses for the unused F3 and F4 keys on the magic keyboard...they should bring up the app switcher and the Home screen
- Do Not Disturb bypass for user selected apps...I’d like my Red Cross Emergency app to still notify me when DND is on, for example
- Add severe weather alerts and a Doppler radar view to the Weather app
- Ability to order prints and create photo books in the Photos app like you can on the Mac
- Synced Clock apps...ie when I start a timer on one device, have the alert pushed through to all my devices
- More local radio stations in Apple Music
- Ability to redownload only selected files from iCloud backups, like Time Machine...I never again want to have to restore an entire device to recover one crucial file...
- Add other iOS devices to the Airplay 2 “now playing” control center widget...like, if my iPhone is playing something, I’d like it to show up with my Apple TV devices on my iPad, for example...

All New Contacts App - with social API, allowing for example viewing of Instagram stories or Facebook data, API for tighter integration with Facebook Messenger, WhatsApp etc. Set your own information (like birthday, email, etc) which is shared with people you have the number of who also have your number.

Interesting! I really like this idea...
 
Google stopped that - it isn't and Apple thing

Google stopped push through Google’s servers. I’m talking about Apple providing Gmail push through Apple servers.

The same way the Outlook app provides Gmail push through Microsoft’s servers.
 
All New Contacts App - with social API, allowing for example viewing of Instagram stories or Facebook data, API for tighter integration with Facebook Messenger, WhatsApp etc. Set your own information (like birthday, email, etc) which is shared with people you have the number of who also have your number.
Interesting! I really like this idea...
By coincidence, I wrote about them potentially utilizing contacts in a different way as part of an integration with a new app called “Web” in another thread (https://forums.macrumors.com/thread...app-for-publishing-things-to-the-web.2105361/).

But I’d honestly forgot about the existing contacts app, since you can access them through the Phone app.

Does seem like they should potentially do something more with it—perhaps as a complement to what I suggest.
 
3. Download all of your music with a single tap (I'm sure no one else has ever wanted to be able to do that but still)

I definitely wish this was a feature. Apple pushes their Apple Music and want you upgrade your iPhone yet you have to download each song one by one when you get a new device.

And when you have Apple Music you can no longer sync music through iTunes.
 
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I definitely wish this was a feature. Apple pushes their Apple Music and want you upgrade your iPhone yet you have to download each song one by one when you get a new device.

And when you have Apple Music you can no longer sync music through iTunes.

I created a smart playlist of all music. If I have to restore my music, I download that playlist and every song gets downloaded.
 
That isn't strictly true as some apps cause more battery drain when left than when closed.

Three that I can think of straight away are:

WhatsApp
Facebook
Facebook Messenger.

If i leave those apps in the switcher then the background activity keeps increasing. As an example at one point all three apps on my phone in a 24hr period had around 30mins of actual usage and almost 4hrs of background activity!!! This is on an iPhone X running the latest OS and App versions. However if I close those apps after use then i don't get more than about 20-30 mins background activity in any 24hr period.

Granted this is more of an App issue and than an iOS issue. But if the app is to be suspended after a period of inactivity then it should stop ALL functions and activity unless explicitly expressed by the user.

I've stopped using the facebook app now and use a safari shortcut instead.

Since always closing these 3 apps (now 2) i find that i have around 10% more battery left between charges. But the rest i leave to suspend as with testing it never made a positive difference for battery life.

Screenshot here to show what I mean about WhatsApp. This is from today with me force closing the app after use.

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This is one that I saved when I started testing and was from leaving the app open. As you can see the time on background activity is near double the time in use. This is in a location with a full WiFi signal so it’s not as if the app is looking for a signal.

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And notice how now you are able to have whatsapp open for 1.5hrs open on screen, 2.5hrs in the background and it still uses the same percentage of battery?
 
And notice how now you are able to have whatsapp open for 1.5hrs open on screen, 2.5hrs in the background and it still uses the same percentage of battery?

That's 4% of the usage in that 24hr period. In that particular 24hrs I also did 45mins on Waze and 4hrs on Personal Hotspot. So the 4% is relative to the amount the battery had drained from the other apps. Had I not used those apps the percentage would have been higher
 
That's 4% of the usage in that 24hr period. In that particular 24hrs I also did 45mins on Waze and 4hrs on Personal Hotspot. So the 4% is relative to the amount the battery had drained from the other apps. Had I not used those apps the percentage would have been higher
Which is actually my point—that these cropped screenshots tell very little and can be easily taken out of context for anyone to make a point.
 
Which is actually my point—that these cropped screenshots tell very little and can be easily taken out of context for anyone to make a point.

It wasn't the percentage I was getting at. It was the amount of background activity I was highlighting which regardless of the battery percentage, is way way too high when the app is supposedly being suspended.
 
That isn't strictly true as some apps cause more battery drain when left than when closed.

Three that I can think of straight away are:

WhatsApp
Facebook
Facebook Messenger.

If i leave those apps in the switcher then the background activity keeps increasing. As an example at one point all three apps on my phone in a 24hr period had around 30mins of actual usage and almost 4hrs of background activity!!! This is on an iPhone X running the latest OS and App versions. However if I close those apps after use then i don't get more than about 20-30 mins background activity in any 24hr period.

Granted this is more of an App issue and than an iOS issue. But if the app is to be suspended after a period of inactivity then it should stop ALL functions and activity unless explicitly expressed by the user.

I've stopped using the facebook app now and use a safari shortcut instead.

Since always closing these 3 apps (now 2) i find that i have around 10% more battery left between charges. But the rest i leave to suspend as with testing it never made a positive difference for battery life.

Screenshot here to show what I mean about WhatsApp. This is from today with me force closing the app after use.

This is one that I saved when I started testing and was from leaving the app open. As you can see the time on background activity is near double the time in use. This is in a location with a full WiFi signal so it’s not as if the app is looking for a signal.

Its funny, or should i say weird, that the 3 most battery drain apps you having\using coming from the same company…
 
Who said it had anything to do with iOS in the first place??????

I just said it would be nice to have this groundbreaking innovation in iOS 12.

Whether it’s iOS or iCloud is irrelevant to this thread.
You mention an iOS version wish list - and say it has nothing to do with iOS version? Ok
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1. Clear iCloud mail badge once mail has been read on Mac (I know this one sounds too futuristic but one can hope)

2. Display all-day events in Up Next Widget (Apple's 24-hour events display just fine, but all-day events don't, yeah, this makes total sense)

3. Download all of your music with a single tap (I'm sure no one else has ever wanted to be able to do that but still)

4. Remove traces of old credit cards from Wallet.app (in case you didn't know, they are permanently tied to your Apple ID)

Feel free to chime in

1: Whenever I read a message from my @me.com/icloud.com account on my Mac it clears the message on my iPhone and vice versa.

2: Haven't tested that my self but it seems like that should already be like that but I could be wrong

3: Settings>iTunes & App Store>Turn on Automatic Downloads for Music. This will result in all music purchased from iTunes downloading to your iOS device

4: I'm pretty sure removing a card from Wallet on your device removes it from Wallet, period. Keep in mind that Wallet is separate from your payment method for your Apple ID.
 
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I want iOS12 to come in 2019.

Better release 11.4 that works like 11.0 should've worked. No innovations, no "cool" new stuff. Just make everything smooth as butter and with the features that were promised at the WWDC 2017.

And please use some of that giant pile of cash to make sure the x.0 releases are decent after that... And while we're on it: Siri is more or less the same as on my iPhone 4S, time to get this b!tch to the next level! (pardon my French)
 
1) Dark Mode

2) Download any size app over LTE - All 4 US carriers (and many others overseas) offer unlimited data, let us use LTE. Just put a warning if it’s over 150Mb so those w/out unlimited can still use WiFi, but let us use Face ID/Touch ID to override it.

3) Download iOS updates over LTE - See above. My LTE connection is more available and faster than most WiFi around me.

4) Alternate sounds for Screenshots vs camera shots - it’s odd when I screenshot something and the sound is on. People look around to see why I took a picture near them. Small thing but would avoid the awkwardness haha.

Others:
• Native Swipe keyboard - iPhone X is already very gesture based, why not make the typing the same way?
• Make Siri smarter
• Always on Display for iPhone X.
• Apple Pay Rewards
 
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