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I still got my copy

I got the epub, the audiobook, and someone gave me the hard cover. Got it covered. 🤦🏻‍♂️:cool:
 
now see…I was given this as a birthday gift, it may be one of the best gifts I’ve ever gotten. (especially with who it came from.)

and now for the embarrassment…Spaceboi, I’ve still never read it!

wasn’t there controversy around this particular biography? I know I could answer this with a Google search—but, it’s always fun to hear what MR has to say.

all this being said—warms my heart to see SJA put this out for free. was Steve an a—hole? for sure. did he do amazing things? for sure. excited to give this a read.
The controversy was mostly from people who didn’t read it. If you read the whole thing you’ll see that it’s quite fair, well researched/attested, and placed in context. His basic theme, which I also agree with, is that he was an amazingly gifted perfectionist who brought out a lot of good from people around him who was also amazingly flawed in some areas. Steve said repeatedly he had some glaring flaws, which was true, but he also singlemindedly pursued his goals which brought great creativity and great work at the expense of people’s emotions and feelings. Both are true.
 
If all e-books looked this nice, I'd be buying a lot more e-books. And the website is also very neat. Awesome logo!
 
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I have a hard time understanding the appeal of books that are, basically, advertisements of someone who did not exist that people pay for.

Don't get me wrong: Steve Jobs was real and everyone has every right to worship whatever selective-reality version of him they want by buying a book written, basically, by the publicist for his estate. No discussion of Jobs (or any other public figure) is going to be a fully complete one, either.

But, really, "Make Something Wonderful" is the title? Surely it won't dig into his personality, the way he treated those around him, or his limitless ability to be a complete entitled prick in general?

He led a company that did incredible things, without a doubt (and, I'll add that without his maniacal focus and vision has largely decayed in product and quality since his departure, and the rate at which it is falling apart continues to accelerate). The cult worship of him does not make any sense beyond "wow, his estate and publicity juggernaut that lives on sure is making a nice living by white washing the guy and selling an image that is woefully unlike the actual man".
Don't swear in Church 😆
 
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everyone has every right to worship whatever selective-reality version of him they want by buying a book written, basically, by the publicist for his estate.
The book is free
But, really, "Make Something Wonderful" is the title? Surely it won't dig into his personality, the way he treated those around him, or his limitless ability to be a complete entitled prick in general?
It’s billed as a selection of quotes, speeches and correspondence so the title being a snippet of a well known quote of his shouldn’t be all that surprising, nor should it be expected to detail every single aspect of the guy’s personality.

Oddly enough, that very quote touches on this:
 

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I've only gotten through 1976-1985 so far.

Still rings true now as much as it did then...
SJ: Well, the best response to that was the response given, I think, in Fortune, which was, “If seeing Big Brother in 1984 connotes IBM to a large number of people, that says more about IBM’s image problem than our intentions.”

In truth: of course, we saw the analogy. And I think that we were saying two things. I think the first thing we were saying was, this image of computers as sort of a centralized group of people having control of very powerful machines to keep track of us, that iconic fear in our minds—we were commenting on that cultural fear that we have.

And of course, one couldn’t—you’d have to be an idiot not to see the parallels to IBM.
 
Still so weird to think of Apple without Jobs. He handpicked Cook and Cook was there with the Apple revival from day one. But the next CEO will surely not be someone picked by Jobs, maybe someone who has never met Jobs.
 
What's with the cringe cult worship of a guy that was a massive prick? Employees and coworkers hated him, he denied having a daughter, treated her like garbage, tried to cut the line for a transplant after refusing chemo, screwed Steve Wozniak out of money when they worked on Atari... the list goes on.

This guy gets way too much praise.
Steve was a complicated, and yes, flawed man.

I never met him, but know many who did.

The Steve you describe sounds like early Steve, before Pixar. By all accounts, he was a much wiser and kinder leader after that.
 
Steve was a complicated, and yes, flawed man.

I never met him, but know many who did.

The Steve you describe sounds like early Steve, before Pixar. By all accounts, he was a much wiser and kinder leader after that.

Yeah different stages of life and too many folks base their ideas on those two weird movies.

The first weird movie played by Asstown Kutcher showed smh 99 years old Steve Jobs introducing the iPod.

The other weird movie that white actor playing a Syrian spent the whole two hours yelling at Apple employees and then had one sweet scene with his daughter.
 
Steve was a complicated, and yes, flawed man.

I never met him, but know many who did.

The Steve you describe sounds like early Steve, before Pixar. By all accounts, he was a much wiser and kinder leader after that.

Likely.

I worked with someone who went to see their father as he circled the drain faster and faster. He was a horrible p*ick as they were growing up. Mean and emotionally destructive. But, with their kids? Oh, it was as if there was a completely different person sitting there. Their kids LOVE 'bump-pa', and worshiped anything he touched. They had a complete blast with him, and it was such a complete change. The coworker found it hard to deal with, exposing their kids to a person that was so vindictive/cruel/dehumanizing. They lived in fear of that same person surfacing and how they would deal with it, with their kids. They had nightmares and eventually had to cut the visits down because the stress was getting way too hard.

So they met 'the monster', and started talking. Their dad said they were sorry for the way they were as a parent, and then cackled that they were 'obviously a better grandparent than a parent'. That didn't go down very well, and left them to process that as 'the monster's' time ran out. Imagine dealing with kids having real grief over the parent that nearly destroyed you when that parent dies. I can only imagine.

I think that line was in a movie from a few years ago. I can see having kids 'too young', but still, being decent to them should not be that hard of a thing to do. *shrug*

But people to change over time. We hope for the better. I would imagine that the stories about him did get back to him. It's possible they helped dull his edges. The stories from Pixar are pretty damning of their relationship with Steve. Like wow...
 
Just finally finished it awhile ago. It's interesting in that 2007 All Things Digital interview he's talking about how he's happy that people are actually building companies to run rather than to sell, and that they were focused on the iPhone being for communication and less for entertainment, and how both of that ended up playing out in the last decade.
 
Slow reader… busy job… but after a few pages here and there each week or two finally finished the book. If you have not read it, I would recommend downloading the free Apple Books edition. Regardless of one's opinion of the subject, it is insightful to see some of the emails. The one that stands out to me the most is his reply to an email congratulating him on being named CEO of the decade.

His reply: sic transit gloria / all glory is fleeting


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