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Frequently Asked Questions About NVIDIA PC (non-EFI) Graphics Cards

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tdunn81 said:
Yeah, this is why I find it so confusing. I've followed the instructions as I have seen them posted. There seems to be no reason why it doesn't work essentially right out of the box. I have all the current Nvidia files, current OSX, no cabling issues, no monitor problems and it just won't display.

I'm not an expert, but I've tried a number of methods outlined here. I'm really out of ideas at this point. I though it could be a 10.10.3 issue, but there's new Nvidia driver/CUDA files since the release. I'd be interested in hearing some other user experiences with 10.10.3 and the latest Nvidia files. A lot of posts predate these releases.
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Did you read 5-6 posts up where a guy was also using Asus 750ti?

You should enable screen sharing and/or use another GPU at same time. See what is in system profiler about 750ti
 
MacVidCards said:
Did you read 5-6 posts up where a guy was also using Asus 750ti?

You should enable screen sharing and/or use another GPU at same time. See what is in system profiler about 750ti
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I tried again different slots, drivers, etc., still can't get it to display. On "About this Mac", it only shows my GT 120, not the 750Ti. On the system report, under displays, the 750Ti is listed but doesn't list the display attached to it.

I have a HDMI switch box that the 2nd display is attached to. When I switch from the display 2 to another HDMI input and back again, I get about 1 second of display on the 2nd through the 750Ti. That's it. If I take the 1st monitor and also plug it in to the 750Ti, I get 2 black screens. Very annoying.

Are there any terminal commands I should try? What about the sharing, what does that do?

Thx
Tim
 
hello,

Gigabyte GV- N660OC - 2GD version I have installed on my computer , I install the latest web driver , and tried , but my computer froze and the computer shuts off .

OC version is not available for sale , " GV- N660WF2-2GD " I'm thinking of buying the model graphics card " Mac Pro 4.1 " system.

Do smoothly using this card ?

Thank you.
 
Your post doesn't make sense.

First attempt to load Nvidia 346 drivers in El Capitan doesn't work well

on the "good news" side, it went right into 5K with no "spannmode" set.
 
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tdunn81 said:
I tried again different slots, drivers, etc., still can't get it to display. On "About this Mac", it only shows my GT 120, not the 750Ti. On the system report, under displays, the 750Ti is listed but doesn't list the display attached to it.

I have a HDMI switch box that the 2nd display is attached to. When I switch from the display 2 to another HDMI input and back again, I get about 1 second of display on the 2nd through the 750Ti. That's it. If I take the 1st monitor and also plug it in to the 750Ti, I get 2 black screens. Very annoying.

Are there any terminal commands I should try? What about the sharing, what does that do?

Thx
Tim
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Tim! The answer is just 6 posts before your question.
 
MacVidCards said:
Your post doesn't make sense.

First attempt to load Nvidia 346 drivers in El Capitan doesn't work well

on the "good news" side, it went right into 5K with no "spannmode" set.
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So what do you think the future of "works off the shelf" for NVidia cards is, MVC? 10.7 - 10.9 was the glory days, and it's over now?
 
MacVidCards said:
Your post doesn't make sense.

First attempt to load Nvidia 346 drivers in El Capitan doesn't work well

on the "good news" side, it went right into 5K with no "spannmode" set.
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I would wait and see if it works in the public release in the fall before mentioning it. Betas are always buggy, and Apple might not have the latest stable Nvidia drivers in them.
 
LDstudios said:
Tim! The answer is just 6 posts before your question.
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Hi LDstudios, which post # are you referring to?
I swear I can count, I just need to know for sure I haven't already tried the suggestion in the post.
I have 10.10.3 Build 14D136. I did try the two beta drivers on this build and it didn't work. Are you suggesting I get an earlier OSX build and try those beta drivers?
Sorry, this is the first time I'm trying this and to date I haven't made any progress. My 750Ti shows up in the system profiler but without any monitor info. I am still running one monitor through the Apple GT 120, which also shows up with the other monitor's info. In the 'about this Mac' menu, only the GT 120 is listed.
 
tdunn81 said:
Hi LDstudios, which post # are you referring to?
I swear I can count, I just need to know for sure I haven't already tried the suggestion in the post.
I have 10.10.3 Build 14D136. I did try the two beta drivers on this build and it didn't work. Are you suggesting I get an earlier OSX build and try those beta drivers?
Sorry, this is the first time I'm trying this and to date I haven't made any progress. My 750Ti shows up in the system profiler but without any monitor info. I am still running one monitor through the Apple GT 120, which also shows up with the other monitor's info. In the 'about this Mac' menu, only the GT 120 is listed.
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It is likely that you need to flash the card like the other poster or get a different brand. I know what is wrong but having us fix it isn't always cost effective on lower end cards. The display routing isn't Apple compliant.

As far as why El Capitan still has same basic Nvidia drivers as 10.8.5.......I would say the root cause is that Apple simply doesn't give a damn about remaining relevant in the Pro space. And I'm not sure how future Nvudia installers will work in a rootless world. It is of course possible to run a simple terminal command to turn off rootless but many Apple fans run screaming when Terminal is mentioned. Apple just doesn't want to compete with the high powered hardware anymore, and they aren't.

But they do make really spiffy music players and watches and other fun toys.
 
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MacVidCards said:
As far as why El Capitan still has same basic Nvidia drivers as 10.8.5.......I would say the root cause is that Apple simply doesn't give a damn about remaining relevant in the Pro space. And I'm not sure how future Nvudia installers will work in a rootless world. It is of course possible to run a simple terminal command to turn off rootless but many Apple fans run screaming when Terminal is mentioned. Apple just doesn't want to compete with the high powered hardware anymore, and they aren't.
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So while the drivers carry over from Yosemite, are you saying that NVidia's webdriver installer might not work, becuase Apple is going to lock that part down? I did read that rootless *may* be able to be shut off in OSX. Maybe... :mad:
 
I'm having an issue with my new non-EFI GTX 970 4GB card. I've got the latest nVidia webdrivers, and fully updated OS X Yosemite.

The problem is, on a cold boot, the system always does a panic during boot, and then boots successfully.
Even though my screens are black, I can tell that's what's happening because the monitors wake up, but stay black, the lights on my wired mouse come on, then the monitors go off, the mouse goes off, and then repeat, except it boots normally. I can also hear the mechanical hard drives being accessed twice, once during the initial startup, and then again during the 2nd.

Once I log in, it says the system crashed and offers to send a report.

This behavior happens 100% of the time on a cold boot, but never on a warm boot.

Ideas?
 
Asgorath said:
There has been a fair amount of confusion about the NVIDIA PC card support since it was last enabled in the 10.7.3 web driver. I'm going to use the term PC card to describe a stock card with no EFI, that is, any old NVIDIA graphics card that you can buy online or from your local computer store.

6) What GPU should I buy?

This is a great question, and depends on your budget and what you'll be using the card for.
  • If you care more about gaming and have an unlimited budget, get a GTX 780 Ti.
  • If you care more about compute (CUDA/OpenCL) and have an unlimited budget, get a GTX TITAN Black or a GTX 570.
  • If you can only afford a mid-rage card, get a GTX 760.
  • If can only afford a low-end card, get a GTX 650.
In general, if you are buying a card now, I would recommend getting a Kepler card and using Mountain Lion. If you really care more about OpenCL or CUDA performance, then the GTX 570 or TITAN Black is probably the best choice. Brand of card does not matter, though I personally stick with EVGA in general.

If you are stuck with a MacPro1,1 or MacPro2,1 then your options are slightly different, since the Kepler cards don't work in Lion.
  • If you have an unlimited budget, get a GTX 570.
  • Otherwise, get a GTX 560 or GTX 560 Ti.
I think it's unlikely that the Kepler cards will ever be supported on Lion, which does limit the options for older Mac Pro systems.
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Hi! I recently bought primary for collection reason, a Mac Pro 1,1. I successful installed Yosemite on this Mac thanks to Piker-Alpha bootloader method I found on this forum. The problem now is that OS X recognize only 5MB for my NVIDIA GeForce 7300 GT so Yosemite is practically unusable.
I've found this thread and given that I'm Italian, and here is very difficult to found an EFI Flashed video card, I must buy a PC video card and exclude the boot screen (it isn't a big problem for me).
I'm just interested in a video-card that can run smoothly on Yosemite (I don't need productivity app expect Pages nor gaming at all), so I think that a low-range card is the best and affordable solution for me. In the thread is suggested the GTX650, but thereafter is specified that users on Mac Pro 1,1 should buy a GTX 560 (because of Lion). Given that I've solved the Lion problem with Piker method and now I'm on Yosemite, can I buy a GTX650. I found this card on Amazon (Italy) http://www.amazon.it/MSI-N650-2GD5-...e=UTF8&qid=1434220054&sr=8-1&keywords=GTX+650 and, if possibile, I just want to have a gently confirm to proceed.
Thank you in advance!
 
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Just get an AMD Radeon. They're easy to flash so they'll deliver boot screens on an Mac Pro 1,1 and are supported by OSX out of the box.
I'd recommend you a 5000 series card (5770 oder 5870) or 7000 / R9 (basically the same) series card.
 
MacVidCards said:
It is likely that you need to flash the card like the other poster or get a different brand. I know what is wrong but having us fix it isn't always cost effective on lower end cards. The display routing isn't Apple compliant.

As far as why El Capitan still has same basic Nvidia drivers as 10.8.5.......I would say the root cause is that Apple simply doesn't give a damn about remaining relevant in the Pro space. And I'm not sure how future Nvudia installers will work in a rootless world. It is of course possible to run a simple terminal command to turn off rootless but many Apple fans run screaming when Terminal is mentioned. Apple just doesn't want to compete with the high powered hardware anymore, and they aren't.

But they do make really spiffy music players and watches and other fun toys.
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Well, I was able to make the ASUS GTX 750Ti fully functional on the Mac Pro...although via Bootcamp and a fresh install of Windows 7 Ultimate 64-bit. Actually, it worked out perfectly and in no time.

This is really only a 50/50 resolution since I can't use the GTX 750Ti with FCX and Lightroom on the Mac, which is what I intended. But, I can use it for gaming on Windows 7.

I guess I'll have to wait until Nvidia/Apple sort out their drivers.
 
Hello, I successfully installed a GT610 in my MacPro 1.1 - 10.9.5 Tiamo, everything is fine except I can not operate the DVI output, i've installed the latest Nvidia driver. some advice?? the VGA is working perfect but i need 2 monitors; seem a lot of people run the GT610 with dual monitor, am i missing something ? Thanks a lot!
 
Cardinen said:
Hello, I successfully installed a GT610 in my MacPro 1.1 - 10.9.5 Tiamo, everything is fine except I can not operate the DVI output, i've installed the latest Nvidia driver. some advice?? the VGA is working perfect but i need 2 monitors; seem a lot of people run the GT610 with dual monitor, am i missing something ? Thanks a lot!
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Did you install the drivers from the Nvidia website?
 
jblagden said:
Did the DVI port work before you installed the drivers from the Nvidia website?
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No, the DVI did not work either before. switching between nvidia drivers and Osx drivers don't change anything.
maybe i could try something with the kext ? there is something that I could try to do?
 
"25) I get an error message "This computer is not compatible with the NVIDIA Web Driver". How do I install the web driver?"

I went through terminal to unpack
modify with text editor
and flatten the latest NVIDIA driver PKG

WebDriver-346.01.02f01.pkg

I still get the not compatible error

I have a Mac Pro 2,1 running 10.10.3

I'm trying to Install a NVIDIA GTX 970

Is there something different about the latest driver that this doesn't work?

I tried searching how to spoof my Mac Pro to 3,1 with Chameleon Wizard but it seems that Chameleon is not for actual Macs, just Hackintoshes.

Can anyone help me?

Thanks everyone!

Dan
 
droesch said:
"25) I get an error message "This computer is not compatible with the NVIDIA Web Driver". How do I install the web driver?"

I went through terminal to unpack
modify with text editor
and flatten the latest NVIDIA driver PKG

WebDriver-346.01.02f01.pkg

I still get the not compatible error

I have a Mac Pro 2,1 running 10.10.3

I'm trying to Install a NVIDIA GTX 970

Is there something different about the latest driver that this doesn't work?

I tried searching how to spoof my Mac Pro to 3,1 with Chameleon Wizard but it seems that Chameleon is not for actual Macs, just Hackintoshes.

Can anyone help me?

Thanks everyone!

Dan
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Yes, edit Nvidia web driver installers to pass system checks: https://forums.macrumors.com/thread...k-nvidia-drivers.1853748/page-5#post-20878271
 
Now I have a new problem :(

The whole system is sluggish (mouse lag, long app load times) and the Nova bench scores are lower than the old gforce 8800 card I had in before which is only 256mb vs 4GB with the gtx970. The new card should blow the old card away.

I'm using the cuda drivers and the web version for NVIDIA.

I've powered it with one 6pin from molex and one 6pin from motherboard

Something must not be configured correctly. Any thoughts?

Thanks again for all your help!

Dan
 
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