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Galaxy S and Tab Owners- No ICS for you
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Rounding down several months are you ?
March 2010 - March 2011 is 12 months. 9 months to go to December 2011. That makes it 21 months old.
Years have 21 months now ?
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I don't consider the iPhone 3G to have ever gotten iOS 4. No multi-tasking, no wallpapers, no nothing iOS 4 isn't iOS 4.
I am having this strange error with 2010 as well. It does not appear to occur for dates in 2009.Rounding down several months are you ?
March 2010 - March 2011 is 12 months. 9 months to go to December 2011. That makes it 21 months old.
Years have 21 months now ?
Actually, it was almost 2 years, but that is besides the point.
The point is that Apple is the only company that provides updates for as long as it does. Before the iPhone, most devices weren't updated - other than minor security updates.
The problem is that android updates are run through several layers before being released to the consumer.
Google releases the OS, then manufacturers put their UI layer on it, then they send it to the carrier for their additions. Once the carrier is done with the OS, it is released to the public.
Can't disagree with any of that, and I don't know why Samsung can't just release vanilla ICS if they say it can't cope with their TouchWiz interface (which is pretty useless anyway)
That's irrelevant for someone who bought their phone in (say) may 2010: To them, their phone was little over a year old when support for the latest iOS version no longer existed, exactly the same as for users of the Samsung Galaxy S who bought their phone on the same day.
IMO, Apple shouldn't have continued selling the 3G for as long as they did as it was clearly massively underpowered compared to the 3GS, but as they chose to then it has to be considered
Samsung and HTC and Sony need to drop this skinning BS.
TouchWiz looks awful and is an iPhone clone, HTC's Sense 2.0 is just atrocious and frustrating (Sense 3.0 is nice however), and Sony's is just disgusting.
Look at Motorola, ZTE, LG, The Nexus branded phones.
They skin the Android OS, but they skin it RIGHT. They don't add awful crappy junky BS software that NOBODY wants, they let you use Android as it was intended, but put their own personal touch on the way it looks. Motorola had a Tron-feeling to me (Motorola's design got put into Android 4.0), ZTE keeps it pretty much stock, LG adds a friendly feel, and the Nexus line has the basic OS but enhanced visually. This is what makers need to do. It's just awful the stupid skins that people like Samsung and HTC do.
TouchWiz looks awful and is an iPhone clone, HTC's Sense 2.0 is just atrocious and frustrating (Sense 3.0 is nice however), and Sony's is just disgusting.
Look at Motorola, ZTE, LG, The Nexus branded phones.
They skin the Android OS, but they skin it RIGHT. They don't add awful crappy junky BS software that NOBODY wants, they let you use Android as it was intended, but put their own personal touch on the way it looks. Motorola had a Tron-feeling to me (Motorola's design got put into Android 4.0), ZTE keeps it pretty much stock, LG adds a friendly feel, and the Nexus line has the basic OS but enhanced visually. This is what makers need to do. It's just awful the stupid skins that people like Samsung and HTC do.
Exactly. People forget that although Apple offers updates for their older devices for longer than most other manufacturers, those updates are watered down, sometimes to the point that they barely offer anything new (and in some cases run so poorly that it's not even worth updating at all).
There's two sides to the coin.
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Extremely poor show from Samsung from a security and performance perspective IMO. It doesn't matter how old the thing is, it's still on sale today.
Why Samsung would put some of their bloat (Samsung Apps market, "hubs" for Facebook, Twitter and the like) baked into the base ROM mistifies me. I feel the same for HTC Sense.
Strip that crap out of the base ROM and suggest that the user installs it seperately if they want it (add a link on the bookmarks for samsung apps e.t.c, then let the user download an APK that installs like any other app).
Whilst the good people at projects like CyanogenMod do free us from this OEM branded crap, it isn't the answer for the general smartphone buying public.
Extremely poor show from Samsung from a security and performance perspective IMO. It doesn't matter how old the thing is, it's still on sale today.
Why Samsung would put some of their bloat (Samsung Apps market, "hubs" for Facebook, Twitter and the like) baked into the base ROM mistifies me. I feel the same for HTC Sense.
Strip that crap out of the base ROM and suggest that the user installs it seperately if they want it (add a link on the bookmarks for samsung apps e.t.c, then let the user download an APK that installs like any other app).
Whilst the good people at projects like CyanogenMod do free us from this OEM branded crap, it isn't the answer for the general smartphone buying public.
Could be. The fact is, the Galaxy S was Samsung's top of the line phone until August of September of 2011, at least in the US.
I think that crown goes to the Nexus S in the US
And that saw the light of day in December 2010, 1 year ago.
HTC said the same thing about the Desire, you know: "We can't fit Gingerbread on it without dropping HTC Sense."
So you know what they did? They released, on their developer site, a Desire Gingerbread ROM with a bunch of Sense stuff pulled out of it, along with the source code, so the xda-developer guys could do their own custom ROMs based on it.
It's not exactly a path the average customer would take, but at least they're making an effort to provide support. Big respect to HTC there.
So you know what they did? They released, on their developer site, a Desire Gingerbread ROM with a bunch of Sense stuff pulled out of it, along with the source code, so the xda-developer guys could do their own custom ROMs based on it.
It's not exactly a path the average customer would take, but at least they're making an effort to provide support. Big respect to HTC there.
This has nothing to with Android because like I mentioned in the past most people don't know Android is nor do they know what version of Androdi their device is running.
edit: but this has everything to do with Samsung and Samsung should do a better job of supporting their products. I'm just glad I got an HTC Flyer instead of Galaxy Tab
edit: but this has everything to do with Samsung and Samsung should do a better job of supporting their products. I'm just glad I got an HTC Flyer instead of Galaxy Tab
The OS is open, what manufacturers do with it, may not always be all that open. I don't consider encrypting boot loaders (motorola) a very open stance
Google and the developers of Android don't supply updates. Like I have said to many people Android products are viewed as a representation of the manufacturer not a representation of Android. Most people don't even know what Android is or what it does. If Samsung were to drop Touchwiz people would be frustrated that their devices don't work the way they are used to having them work. Most people are too used to having touchwiz so they won't remove it. The only ones to blame are Samsung.
Apple's devices don't get to run the latest code either. It just looks that way because of version handwaving.
For instance, Apple deliberately kept Siri off the iPhone 4 just to make more money, and likewise for leaving off voice control, MMS, video and multitasking on earlier models.
One thing for sure, all those Android devices have multitasking, and will no doubt be able to run whatever Siri-like app that Google comes out with.
Personally, I am happy with the OS versions on those devices and have no burning desire for an upgrade, since they do everything I need quite well. I suspect that most owners are.
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The Dearth of Android Software*Updates*★
Matthew Panzarino, writing at The Next Web:
The problem isnt Samsung, its systemic to Android as a whole. The makers of Android hardware see little benefit in updating even devices that are less than a year old. And, though I think its a punk move, I dont blame them. There is little to no return to be had.
Its almost certain that this is what the executives at these Android device makers think, too. Why bother with software updates? Weve got their money. Let them buy a new device if they want the latest software.
But I strongly disagree that there is no return to be had. The one company that provides a different approach Apple is the one company with the most profits, the most loyal customers, and its own chain of insanely crowded retail stores. Can you prove that Apple is thriving because it takes much better care of its existing customers than do any of its competitors? I guess not. But its the difference between a company that simply wants to sell you a device, and a company that wants to sell you a device and make you happy that you bought it. Making a sale versus fostering a relationship between customer and the company.
One company clearly has more respect for its customers; that company is also clearly more successful. If you dont see the connection, go ahead and keep your head in the sand.
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Spot on.
The Dearth of Android Software*Updates*★
Matthew Panzarino, writing at The Next Web:
The problem isnt Samsung, its systemic to Android as a whole. The makers of Android hardware see little benefit in updating even devices that are less than a year old. And, though I think its a punk move, I dont blame them. There is little to no return to be had.
Its almost certain that this is what the executives at these Android device makers think, too. Why bother with software updates? Weve got their money. Let them buy a new device if they want the latest software.
But I strongly disagree that there is no return to be had. The one company that provides a different approach Apple is the one company with the most profits, the most loyal customers, and its own chain of insanely crowded retail stores. Can you prove that Apple is thriving because it takes much better care of its existing customers than do any of its competitors? I guess not. But its the difference between a company that simply wants to sell you a device, and a company that wants to sell you a device and make you happy that you bought it. Making a sale versus fostering a relationship between customer and the company.
One company clearly has more respect for its customers; that company is also clearly more successful. If you dont see the connection, go ahead and keep your head in the sand.
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Spot on.
I fixed that for you. I have a 3GS and it has only a handful of features from iOS5.
I have an iPhone 4 and I can't have Siri because Apple wants me to buy a new phone.
Also, remember the whole first gen iPhone can't record video but jailbroken app developers can make it do it? Yeah, that was all about making you buy a new phone as well.
No, not for consumers but rather for geeks. The average consumer remains screwed. The average consumer doesn't know anything about rooting or ROMs.
Google should be thoroughly bashed for this but of course they will get a pass by the average geek.
I used to love everything google did but over the last two to three years I've really lost my respect for them. That is why I've migrated most everything to the Apple ecosystem and Zoho for my business.
Yes but iPhone users can enjoy their phones for a lot longer than their Android counterparts because their devices are updated. Apple can't include some updates because the hardware just won't run it but Android devices can run the updated software but still they don't get it.